Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 advaitin , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: advaitin , " frank t maiello " <egodust@> wrote: > > hariH OM! > > " we are surrounded and immersed in pure Mystery; anything we think we > know of it is sheer folly. " - toltec shaman don juan matus. > > in light of this, and to my understanding, the intellectual " end game " > shift into moksha is the ability to allow the ego-Mind to surrender to > this unfathomable mystery. for, [the converse of] embracing any > concept or ideology in the form of a hardline " understanding " re the > nature of Reality (or whatever It is that appears before or within us) > is a trap that in effect perpetuates the delimitation of one's > experience, sustaining the ancient stubborn barrier to moksha. > > namaste, > frank > Namaste,F, I'm guessing you mean Juan Matus the Yaqui Shaman mentioned in Castenada's books. This character as well as much else in the books may have very tenuous claims to truth or existence. Although what is said is the typical Bhakti surrender or Nishkarma Karma..............ONS..Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 advaitin , " frank t maiello " <egodust@> > > wrote: > > > > > > advaitin , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste,F, > > > > > > > > I'm guessing you mean Juan Matus the Yaqui Shaman mentioned in > > > > Castenada's books. This character as well as much else in the > > > books > > > > may have very tenuous claims to truth or existence. > > > > > > > > Although what is said is the typical Bhakti surrender or > > Nishkarma > > > > Karma..............ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > > > > hariH OM! tonyji, > > > > > > yes, i'm aware the individual don juan may have been fabricated > by > > > castaneda. in which case castaneda himself must be enlightened > as > > > well as quite a unique and creative/imaginative teacher. > > > > > > and yes, what i wrote may be classified as parabhakthi; but i > > > believe is more likened to essentially purushotamayog, which > > > simultaneously embraces all three main approaches (jnana-, > bhakthi- > > > > > and karma/tyagi-yog).. > > > > > > namaste, > > > frank > > > > > Namaste, > > > > How can jnana be confused with Purushotamayogi?...Tony. > > > > as stated above, they are seamlessly integrated. see bg: ch. xv; v. > 1 - 20.. > > namaskaaram. > Namaste, Yes I read that in two versions of the Gita, but it really is still the Vaisnava vishistadvaita isn't it? That was my point that Jnana or Advaita would be regarded as Mayavid by those groups....ONS..Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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