Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 advaitin , V Subrahmanian <subrahmanian_v wrote: Namaste to all Advaitins: Attributes and Substantive A recent post on Mandukya Upanishad Notes Introduction 2 from Sri Sadananda ji (Ref. Msg. No. 30570 dt.Mar.15, 2006) and a response to it on the above subject by our Sri Michael ji (Ref.Msg.No.30576 dt.Mar.16.2006) form the genesis for this post of mine. This is a weighty topic in Advaita Vedanta and I thought it would be worth discussing the topic in some detail. The objective is to evoke considered responses from the honourable members of this List and to take the discussion forward and arrive at and appreciate the final position as per our system of Vedanta. Here is my understanding of the topic. Brahman is the One Substance of everything. It would not be wrong to call It 'The Substantive'. ( Sri Sadanandaji explains this with the support of 'Sarvam Khalvidam Brahma'.) What we call objects is the 'Nama and Rupa' superimposed on this One Substantive. It would not be wrong to call this Nama-Rupa combine, the attribute. All attributes that we perceive, coming from all the sensory activity can be included in the one nomenclature called Nama-Rupa. We have thus the scheme where 'the world is Brahman plus nama-rupa. Paramarthic Brahman is the world minus nama-rupa.' The Mandukya Upanishad provides an excellent model to understand the above. Brahman, the Turiya, is the Original Consciousness (O.C.). The three paada-s constitute the Reflected Consciousness (R.C.) thus: First Pada: 1. Viraat the Cosmic Consciousness of the waking world. 2. Vishwa, the individual consciousness of the waking world. Second Pada: 1. Hiranyagarbha the Cosmic Consciousness of the Dream world and 2. Taijasa the individual Consciousness of the dream world. Third Pada: 1.Ishvara, the Cosmic Consciousness of the world in its resolved state and 2. Praajna the individual consciousness obtaining in the deep sleep state. All the Six entities mentioned above are Turiya alone reflected in each of these entities and thus called the Six R.Cs. Each of the Cosmic Consciousness above denotes the entire world of objects animate and inanimate, involving all vyavahara of the play of the seer, seeing and seen in the gross, subtle and causal states. In the seventh mantra of the Mandukya Upanishad, the all the six reflected consciousness(es) are shown to have no absolute reality; the Turiya alone is the Absolute Reality. The revered Swami Paramarthananda, to whose lucid exposition of the Mandukya Upanishad (in a whopping eighty hours) to which the above presented scheme owes its origin, elucidates the matter further by taking the example of the Gold and the Bangle, Chain and Ring to signify the Turiya, and the three paadas. In each of the bangle, chain and ring, upon investigation, it is concluded that apart from the name and shape of these ornaments, nothing else obtains in them except the Substance, Gold. In other words, the names and shapes of these ornaments are insubstantial in themselves. These names and shapes, the nama-rupa combine is what we called the attribute a little above. The Swami asks his students humourously, " Would you all hand over to me the gold and walk away with your bangles, chains and rings? " The Panchadashi gives a beautiful verse: Asti Bhati Priyam Rupam Nama chetyamsha-panchakam | Aadya-trayam Brahmarupam Maya-rupam tato dvayam || In every object these five amshas, parts, as it were, are present: 1.Asti, Existence (Sat),2. Bhati, Consciousness (Chit) 3.Priyam, Bliss (Ananda) 4. Rupam, form and 5. Nama, name. Of these, the first three pertain to Brahman, the Substantive and the latter two, the attributes, pertain to Maya. Sri Vidyaranya in the Panchadashi gives the sadhana for realizing the Non-dual Absolute, Brahman: He says one must constantly engage in 'dvaita-avajnaa', that is, deliberate disregard of the objective duality. Essentially, this means: reject the attributes and grasp the Substance. All the exercises the Upanishads prescribe are this sadhana for example, Yadaa pancha-avatishthante jnaanaani manasaa saha | Buddhischa na vicheshtati taamaahuH Paramaam Gatim || Taam Yogamiti manyante sthiraam indriya-dhaaranaam |(Kathopanishad 2.3.10) (The Seers call that the highest state, wherein the five senses of knowledge rest together with the mind and the intellect too does not function. They consider firm restraint of the senses as Yoga.) and 'Paraanchi khaani vyatrnat svayambhooH, paraang pashyanti na antaraatman. Kaschit dhiraH pratyagaatmaanam aikshat aavrtta- chakshur-amrtatvam icchan.'(Katha. 2.1.1) (The Lord cursed the senses to be outward-turned. They, by nature, are not turned towards the Atman, the Indweller. A rare, mighty-willed, aspirant restrains his senses and succeeds in beholding the Atman.) In effect, from the sadhanas taught by the Scriptures, what we conclude is that 1. The senses grasp the attributes, nama-rupa, and become enamoured by them. 2. Atman, in its purity, is not grasped by the senses. Evidence from the Sruti, scripture, Yukti, reasoning and Anubhava, experience of the Enlightened can be advanced in this regard: Sruti: There are direct Sruti vakyams to show that the Self is not grasped by the senses, as for example, 'na tatra chakshur gacchati, na vaag gacchati, no mano'(Kena.1.3)= the eyes do not grasp Brahman, not the words nor even the mind..' We can take that the eyes represent the entire range of sense organs and vaak, speech, represent the entire range of motor organs. Vijnaataaram arey, kena vijaaniiyaat? (Brihadaranyaka) By whom/by what indeed can that which knows be known? Yukti: The Self is the subject, the vishayi. It can never become the object, vishaya. Vishayi cannot grasp the vishayi. There are examples like 'the knife cannot cut itself', 'even an expert acrobat cannot stand on his own shoulders', etc. The five senses, instruments, are designed to grasp sound, form(and colour), smell, touch and taste. They can not grasp Atman/Brahman that has none of these, sound, etc. 'Ashabdam asparsham..'(Kathopanishad). Anubhava: The unsublatable experience of the Enlightened gives us the faith in the possibility of all that is learnt through the Sruti and deduced through reasoning. Here is presented an account of the experience of an enlightened Sage: Acharyal: Yes. This is what I did on that day too. I, however, had no doubt that the divine grace rather than My effort or competence was primarily responsible for the conviction and all the samàdhi-s. A few minutes after emerging from samàdhi, I thought as follows. With the aid of a mental vrtti (modification of the mind) in the form of a desire to meditate or a hue, I have earlier focused on the Supreme. I should be able to become absorbed in the Supreme even by considering any external object. After all, the Supreme is not merely the witness of mental states but is also the real substratum of everything. (Mahànàràyana Upanisad XIII.5) (Whatsoever there is in the entire world that is seen or heard of, all that is pervaded by Nàràyana, within and without (like a bracelet and other golden ornaments by gold, their material cause).) An earthen pot has a rotund form, has the name, `pot', and is made of mud. It is apprehended as something that exists, as " is " ; it is the object of the notion of existence (sadbuddhi). What is responsible for the pot's being or existence? Decidedly, its name and form do not lend any being to it. Other than as clay, its material cause, the pot has no existence; it has existence only as clay. (A modification (of clay, such as a pot or jar,) has speech as its origin and exists only in name; as clay alone, it is real.) Can clay, per se, account for the being of the pot? No, for clay has no existence apart from the particles of which it is made; the name and form of clay do not make it existent. Nothing that is an effect has existence apart from its material cause; only as the cause, does an effect exist. Thus, no intermediary member of the causal chain headed by the pot, clay and particles can account for the pot's being. Only the ultimate cause, if it be intrinsically existent, can adequately do so. The scripture teaches that Brahman is the ultimate cause, the substratum of all, and that It is of the very nature of absolute existence. Thus, in the final analysis, a pot has existence only as Brahman; apart from Brahman, it is simply non-existent. The name and form of the pot are but its false or illusory aspects. Similarly, every object has existence only as Brahman; the name and form of the object are its illusory aspects. Were such not to be the case, the scripture would not have emphatically taught that on knowing Brahman, everything becomes known, just as on knowing clay, all products of clay become known. In the past, whenever I have wanted to, I have been able to readily ignore the name and form of an object, such as an earthen pot or a golden vessel, and to apprehend the object as being just the substance of which it is made, such as clay or gold. Now, I should go much further. I should thoroughly discriminate the name and form of any selected object from its being, disregard them, and understand that the object is actually just its ultimate basis, absolute existence. Having reflected in this manner, I started My meditation, taking the sun as the object of relevance. I gazed at the sun, which was to set in about half an hour and was pleasant to behold. With effort, I increasingly ignored everything about the sun, such as its shape, size and brightness, and focused on just its being. Soon, nothing mattered except the bare existence of the sun; indifference to the illusory aspects became well established and effortless. I cannot say whether thereafter My eyes were fully open, partially closed or fully closed. Abruptly, I almost totally forgot Myself. Just unqualified being, unrelated to space, time and objects, remained and that too not as an inert entity but as objectless consciousness. When My mind descended from this savikalpa-samàdhi, I found that the sun had already set and that the place was illumined by the moon. I estimated that My samàdhi would have lasted for nearly an hour. I then left for Narasimhavana. The next morning, the external object I considered to facilitate My meditation on the Supreme was the wall in front of Me. With hardly any effort, I was able to disregard all illusory aspects and focus on just the being of the selected object. I attained savikalpa- samàdhi in moments; the experience was the same as what I had had on the previous occasion. {Here, Acharyal instructed me, who was seated in front of Him, to move to His side and face the same direction as Him. He then said, " In the evening, use the sun as an object and focus on the Truth, the way I did. Right now, let us both enter savikalpa- samàdhi for some time with the wall in front serving as the object to initiate the meditation. " Such was the power of Acharyal's presence and grace that, even without any effort, I went into, experienced and emerged from savikalpa-samàdhi in the same manner as and together with Acharyal. Acharyal Himself confirmed that what I had experienced was similar to what He Himself had experienced. Acharyal then said that He would continue His account the next day.} (Acharyal:) In the evening, I went to My usual place of meditation. After taking My seat, I reflected, " Brahman is of the nature of absolute existence and is the substratum on which this illusory world of names and forms is superimposed. Even as I perceive what is external, I could, instead of considering a specific external object, use words to this effect to direct My attention fixedly to the Truth. This would be equivalent to My earlier using, when inward-turned, words of the Brahmànucintana and the Pañcikarana to become absorbed in the Supreme. " Without shutting My eyes, I mentally said to Myself: (I am Brahman of the nature of absolute existence, the substratum of everything.) I intensified the resulting notion by disregarding names and forms in general. As I proceeded to do so, the diversity, rooted in names and forms, of the world seemed more and more to be superficial and irrelevant. Everything appeared to become stripped to bare being, without attributes. My sense of individuality faded. An upsurge in the intensity of concentration resulted in savikalpa- samàdhi that was akin to the preceding ones. About one and a half hours passed before My mind descended from samàdhi. I: Was Acharyal familiar at that time with the scriptural account of the two drsyaanuviddha (associated with a perceptible object) and two sabdaanuviddha (associated with a name) kinds of savikalpa- samàdhi-s? Acharyal: No. I read the verses concerned of the Sarasvati-Rahasya Upanisad and the Drg-Drsya-Viveka much later. Only when I did so did I come to know that there were these varieties of savikalpa-samàdhi and that I had properly practised all of them. (Drg-Drsya-Viveka 3cd) Savikalpa-samàdhi is of two kinds by virtue of its association with a perceptible object or a name (ibid. 24) Desire and the like, which are located in the mind, are perceptible objects. One should thoroughly concentrate on consciousness as their witness. This constitutes savikalpa-samàdhi associated with a perceptible object. (ibid. 25) I am unattached, of the nature of absolute existence, pure consciousness and ultimate bliss, self-luminous and free from duality. Meditating thus constitutes savikalpa-samàdhi associated with words(scriptural declaration). (ibid. 27) Savikalpa-samàdhi associated with a perceptible object can occur with regard to any external object just as it can with regard to what is in the mind. In this, name and form are separated from pure being. (ibid. 28) There is just Brahman, the indivisible, homogeneous entity of the nature of absolute existence, pure conscious and ultimate bliss. Such an uninterrupted thought constitutes savikalpa-samàdhi associated with a word – scriptural declaratioin.} End of Quote from the book 'Yoga Enlightenment and Perfection'. The above quoted experience brings out two levels involved here: 1. the substantive gold, of the attributed ornaments and 2. The (Super) Substantive Brahman, the substratum Being of even the gold and ultimately of the ornaments. By bypassing the (gold)- substantive, one can arrive at the conclusion that Brahman is the Substantive of all objects. I get the feeling that Sri Sadananda ji actually meant this when he said that 'the senses do not grasp the substantive'. It was these lines of his that reminded me of the Acharya's experience that I have quoted above. The Sruti, yukti and Vidvad-anubhava mentioned above prove that the senses grasp the attributes and by restraining the senses and disregarding the attributes one will be able to 'grasp' the One Substance, Brahman. I make it clear that the Vedanta Paribhasha prakriya for perception and inference and the Brahmasutra Bhashya portions quoted by Sri Michael ji do not stand invalidated by what is said by me in the foregoing. In my perception, these are valid in the level 1 that is mentioned in the above para. I am open to be corrected on this. The Vedanta Paribhasha offers an excellent scheme to explain the sensory perception and the inference that we have in our experience of the world. The defect of 'subject knowing the subject' does not arise in the Paribhasha scheme as Brahman is 'differentiated' by the application of upadhis and thus the triad of the seer, seeing and seen is amply accounted for. I would like to thank Sri Sadananda and Sri Michael for providing, although unintended by them, the basic idea for this post. Members who are interested to take this forward are welcome to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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