Fwd: Attributes and Substantive

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advaitin , " V. Krishnamurthy " <profvk

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advaitin , V Subrahmanian <subrahmanian_v@>

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> Namaste to all Advaitins:

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> Attributes and Substantive

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> A recent post on Mandukya Upanishad Notes Introduction 2 from Sri

Sadananda ji (Ref. Msg. No. 30570 dt.Mar.15, 2006) and a response to

it on the above subject by our Sri Michael ji (Ref.Msg.No.30576

dt.Mar.16.2006) form the genesis for this post of mine. This is a

weighty topic in Advaita Vedanta and I thought it would be worth

discussing the topic in some detail. The objective is to evoke

considered responses from the honourable members of this List and to

take the discussion forward and arrive at and appreciate the final

position as per our system of Vedanta.

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Namaste.

 

Shri Subbu's excellent post and Sadaji's series on the

Mandukya Karika need to be carefully absorbed by repeated reading.

In this connection I would like to recall a shloka or two from

Shatashloki of Shankara, part of which we saw in 2004. Here is one,

(Shloka #22) which I reproduce below for the benefit of our

recalling it in our study of Mandukya Karika. Maybe Subbu can

comment on this from his understanding.

 

(Extracted from message #23375 of 25 June 2004)

 

22.

svAjnAna-jnAna-hetU jagad-udaya-layau sarva-sAdhAraNau staH

 

jiveshh-vAsvarNa-garbhaM shrutaya iti jagur-hUyate

sva-prabhodhe /

vishvaM brahmaNy-abodhe jagati punar-idaM hUyate brahma

yadvat

shuktau roupyaM ca roupye'dhikaraNam-athavA

hUyate'nyonya-mohAt //

 

jagad-udaya-layau : The manifestation and dissolution of

the universe

sva-ajnAna-jnAna-hetU : have for their (respective) cause,

ignorance or

knowledge of the Self

sarva-sAdhAraNau staH : and are applicable to all

jIveshhu : beings

AsvarNa-garbhaM : from Creator Brahma downwards –

iti shrutayaH jaguH : Thus the vedas declare.

sva-prabodhe : When the Self is revealed

vishvaM : the universe

brahmaNi hUyate : is sacrificed into Brahman;

abodhe : When (the Self is) not realised,

punaH brahma hUyate jagati : again Brahman is sacrificed

into the universe. –

yadvat : just as

roupyam shuktau hUyate : (the appearing) silver disappears

into the mother-of-pearl

athavA : or

adhikaraNam roupye : the substance into the silver

anyonya-mohAt : owing to the non-recognition of each of

them in turn.

 

Note 1: There is a subtly-advanced advaita here. That the

Reality is what appears in the form of the universe is very

often talked about in advaita. But here the unreal

disappearing into the real is also talked about in the same

fashion. " anyonya-mohAt " . Non-duality par excellence!

There is matter here for a deep `nididhyasana'.

 

Question: Does this " anyonya-moha " go back to the Mandukya-Karika?

 

PraNAms to all advaitins.

profvk

 

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