Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 ThePowerOfSilence , " saikali6362 " <saikali6362 wrote: Help on the Quest for Self-realization-Reminders-34 Eliminating desires 49 The divine Padam says: " Desiring something, [imagining it] to be wonderful, is the conduct of the ignorant ego-ghost " . 50 Those ignorant people who are itching for the desire for this illusory life are whirling in the life of the cremation ground. 51 Evil desire, a pit that can never be filled, is what plunges your life into a poverty that can never be over come. Guru Vachaka Kovai, verse 371, Pozhippurai: Before attaining a desired object, intense desire makes even an atom appear to be a huge mountain. However, when the desired object is attained, in total contrast, the huge mountain appears to be an atom. As strong desires keep us forever impoverished, we have not seen anywhere a bottomless abyss that is as impossible to fill as avaricious desires, which can never be satisfied. Vilakkam: Tiruvalluvar also says, " desire whose nature is such that it can never be satisfied " . As true wealth is only contentment of mind, when that contentment is absent, no one can pull himself out of poverty and become wealthy, irrespective of how much money he earns. 52 A heart in which the kamya buddhi [a mind that desires particular results] has departed and which possesses the auspicious and excellent nishkamya buddhi [a mind that lacks desires for results] will be the home of bliss. 53 The state of rest that shines when all desire has ceased is the powerful experience of Vedanta. 54 If the six illusory enemies, beginning with desire, that mingle in your heart are totally destroyed, the extremely clear light of jnana (direct knowledge of the reality that is the Self) will shine. The six enemies are desire, anger, greed, delusion, intoxication and envy. Question: What is the true meaning of renunciation " Subjugation of lust, passion, greed, etc. is common to all and forms the essential, preliminary step for any course. Does not freedom from passions indicate renunciation? Bhagavan: You have said it all. Your question contains the answer also. Freedom from passions is the essential prerequisite. When that is accomplished, all else is accomplished. Question: How am I to deal with my passions? Am I to check them or satisfy them? If I follow Bhagavan's method and ask, " To whom are these passions? " they do not seem to die but grow stronger. Bhagavan: That only shows that your are not going about my method properly. The right way is to find out the root of all passions, the source whence they proceed, and get rid of that. If you check the passions, they may get suppressed for the moment, but will appear again. If you satisfy them, they will be satisfied only for the moment and will again crave satisfaction. Satisfying desires and thereby trying to root them out is like trying to quench fire by pouring kerosene over it. The only way is to find the root of desire and thus remove it. 55 If you drive out and eliminate the demons of desire and so on, what then becomes one with you is the treasure house pf liberation. Question: What is the best way of dealing with desires, with a view to getting rid of them-satisfying them or suppressing them? Bhagavan: If a desire can be got rid of by satisfying it, there will be no harm in satisfying such a desire. But desires generally are not eradicated by satisfaction. Trying to root them out that way is like pouring spirits to quench fire. At the same time, the proper remedy is not forcible suppression, since such repression is bound to react sooner or later into forceful surging up with undesirable consequences. The proper way to get rid of a desire is to find out, " Who gets the desire? What is its source? " When this is found, the desire is rooted out and it will never again emerge or grow. Small desires such as the desire to eat, drink and sleep and attend to calls of nature, though these may also be classed among desires, you can safely satisfy. They will not implant vasanas (mental tendencies; the latent desires and feelings that compel one to behave in a particular way) in your mind, necessitating further birth. Those activities are just necessary to carry on life and are not likely to develop or leave behind vasanas or tendencies. As a general rule, therefore, there is no harm in satisfying a desire where the satisfaction will not lead to further desires by creating vasanas in the mind. 56 This [vision of the Self] will only be encountered by those who are free of the delusion of desire, and not by those whose corrupted minds are full of desires for sense objects. Guru Vachaka Kovai, verse 149: The non-dual experience will only be attained by those who have completely given up desires. For those with desires, it is extremely far away. Hence it is proper for those with desires to direct their desires towards God, who is desireless, so that through desire for God their deluding desires become extinct. 57 A heart that has been usurped by the demon of powerful desires, which are vile attachments, is a home for miseries that will stream forth like winged white ants from their hole. 58 If everything is perceived as the one consciousness alone, there will not be even the tiniest amount of yearning in your mind. Question: How can they [desires] be rendered weaker? Bhagavan: By knowledge. You know that you are not the mind. The desires are in the mind. Such knowledge helps one to control them. Question: But they are not controlled in our practical lives. Bhagavan: Every time you attempt satisfaction of a desire the knowledge comes that it is better to desist. What is your true nature? How can you ever forget it? Waking, dream and sleep are mere phases of the mind. They are not the Self. You are the witness of these states. Your true nature is found in sleep. Bhagavan: There is room for kama [desire] so long as there is an object apart from the subject, i.e., duality. There can be no desire if there is no object. The state of no-desire is moksha (liberation). There is no duality in sleep and also no desire. Whereas there is duality in the waking state and desire also is there. Because of duality a desire arises for the acquisition of the object. That is the outgoing mind, which is the basis of duality and desire. If one knows that bliss is none other than the Self the mind becomes inward turned. If the Self is gained all the desires are fulfilled. 59 The proliferation of desires in life results from the spread of worldly attachments, which is in turn the devastating consequence of forgetting one's true nature. 60 It is a wonder that the jiva (the individual self) gets destroyed like a moth in the flame of evil sense objects, with the goal of unlimited desire becoming its ruin. 61 By destroying the concepts of the mind, the desires that accumulate in worldly life-a life that is unnatural and born out of delusion- will be destroyed. 62 A mind that is greatly agitated by the winds of desire will find peace for a while through thinking about God. NOTE: TAKEN FROM " PADAMALAI " , EDITED BY DAVID GODMAN, PAGES 240 TO 243 --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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