Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 , Harsha wrote: Dear Dr. Yadu, You raise an important question and I hope you don't mind my answering you in this forum. I will send the response to HS as well. You are right in the case of a Jnani who is in the natural state referred to as Sahaj Samadhi. He is not attached to the instrument of perception and experience (mind) and in Him all delight is Self- delight and all bliss is Self-bliss only. As Sri Ramana has pointed out, a yogi who has won Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi has experienced absorption into the Self but until the mind is fully resolved in the Self, it will sprout back up. Therefore, effort in some form such as Atma Vichara will continue until the Self spontaneously manifests in all its fullness. I vaguely recall that Sri Ramana said something like when someone experiences Nirvikalpa Samadhi, the force of it will keep the person on track to the final destination. The distance between Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Sahaj Samadhi may be brief or long. It depends on the person's karmic makeup. We have examples of sages who satisfy both criteria. Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi involves the immobility of the body and the merging of the mind along with the Shakti into the spiritual Heart through what Sri Ramana referred to as Amrita Nadi or Para Nadi which is a continuation of the Sushmana. Sushmana stretches from the Muladhara to the Brain through the middle of the spine. From the Sahasarara in the brain, the Amrita Nadi starts and comes down on the front side of the body slightly to the right and merges in the Spiritual Heart. Sri Ramana mentioned this process many times. Again, this is a matter of actual experience of the Yogis and Jnanis. Thus the Self is known in the Heart. Entering the Heart, everything disappears including the Heart and any such concepts and the Self that is whole and the nature of pure consciousness is Recognized as one's own Self. When Paul Brunton asked Sri Ramana when should an aspirant practice Sahaj Samadhi, Sri Ramana replied something like, " Right from the beginning! " In the first stages of yoga, consciousness is fixed on one's deity, chakras, mantra, yantra, sound, light, etc. In doing so, the great power of consciousness as Shakti awakens and She gives rise to visions and different spiritual experiences including many many types of Samadhis. Sometimes the Goddess Herself manifests in breath taking forms and gives darshan. These are all actual experiences of yogis and devotees even today. Ultimately, Yoga and Jnana path start to merge because the aspirant becomes fascinated by the nature of consciousness itself which gives rise to so many forms and visions. When awareness spontaneously starts to scan itself without effort, then one is firmly on the Jnana path. Awareness, aware of itself, and abiding in itself is the Sahaj state. This is why Sri Ramana said to Paul Brunton that what is means of practice for the Sadhaka is the actual state of the Siddha. A Siddha, a Jnani, is always fully satisfied and content and delights in Self-Nature, Self-Awareness because the nature of Self is Sat-Chit- Ananda. Love to all Harsha ymoharir wrote: Namaste Sri Sunder-Ji: > > To me " nir-biija " would be an activity was just happened without > those specific efforts. This state (avasthaa of Yogi's) is often > called as " unnanii avasthaa " , where the person has no sense of the > environment he is currently living in. Therefore, he has no need to > practice any saadhanaa, he is already there as he himself has no > attachment to himself. > > Just some thoughts, > > Regards, > > Dr. Yadu > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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