Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 advaitin , Harsha wrote: > > How can an experience, no matter how profound, help to attain the Self > which is the Ultimate Subject and beyond experience? > > In his poem, Atma Vidya (Self-Knowledge) > overwhelming with sacred beauty, Bhagavan Ramana mentions Bliss at the end of virtually each stanza in describing Self-Realization. Here are examples of the last sentences of Sri Ramana's poem > Atma Vidya (Self-Knowledge) in the various five verses. > > 1. Bliss wells up. > 2. This stillness, this abode of bliss. > 3. The blossoming of bliss. > 4. The experience of Eternity: absence of all fear; the ocean vast of bliss. > 5. True, Grace is needed; Love is added. Bliss wells up. > > These words are coming from direct realization and what comes from the Truth, if meditated upon, leads us back to their source. > > > Love to all > Harsha Namaste Harsha-ji, Yes you and I have had this discussion on an off for years. I still opine that Bliss is Saguna and not full realisation. I will admit that the realisation is only one and that Saguna and Nirguna are realised simultaneously. However Bliss is of the mind and experience and may exist as long as there is a body/mind complex of some kind. However on dropping the body it all disappears as never having happened at all not even the illusion itself happened.....Ajativada.........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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