Fwd: Selections from TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI-8

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Selections from TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI-8

 

TALK 43:

 

Mr Ramamurthi: I know that one can think, remaining forgetful of the

physical body. Can one think without the mind? Is it possible to

gain that consciousness which is beyond thoughts?

 

M.: Yes. There is only one consciousness, which subsists in the

waking, dream and sleep states. In sleep there is no `I'. The `I-

thought' arises on waking and then the world appears. Where was

this `I' in sleep? Was it there or was it not? It must have been

there also, but not in the way that you feel now. The present is

only the `I-thought', whereas the sleeping `I' is the real `I'. It

subsists all through. It is consciousness. If it is known you will

see that it is beyond thoughts.

 

D.: Can we think without the mind?

 

M.: Thoughts may be like any other activities, not disturbing to the

Supreme Consciousness.

 

Mr. Raghaviah: How shall we correlate the higher experience with the

lower experience (meaning spiritual experience with mundane affairs)?

 

M.: There is only one experience. What are the worldly experiences

but those built up on the false `I'? Ask the most successful man of

the world if he knows his Self. He will say " No " . What can anyone

know without knowing the Self? All worldly knowledge is built upon

such a flimsy foundation.

 

Mr. Ramamurthi: How to know the `Real I' as distinct from the `false

I'.

 

M.: Is there anyone who is not aware of himself? Each one knows, but

yet does not know, the Self. A strange paradox.

 

The Master added later, " If the enquiry is made whether mind exists,

it will be found that mind does not exist. That is control of mind.

Otherwise, if the mind is taken to exist and one seeks to control

it, it amounts to mind controlling the mind, just like a thief

turning out to be a policeman to catch the thief, i.e., himself.

Mind persists in that way alone, but eludes itself. "

 

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