Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 ThePowerOfSilence , " saikali6362 " <saikali6362 wrote: Selections from TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI-26 TALK 170: D.: Can a yogi know his past lives? M.: Do you know the present life so well that you wish to know the past. Find out the present life, then the rest will follow. Even with our present limited knowledge we suffer so much. Why do you wish to burden yourself with more knowledge and suffer more? D.: Can fasting help realisation? M.: But it is temporary. Mental fast is the real aid. Fasting is not an end in itself. There must be spiritual development side by side. Absolute fasting makes the mind weak too. You cannot derive sufficient strength for the spiritual quest. Therefore take moderate food and go on practising. D.: They say that after breaking a month's fast, ten days afterwards the mind becomes pure and steady and remains so forever. M.: Yes, if the spiritual quest has been kept up right through the fast also. TALK 172: A visitor: What is the difference between meditation (dhyana) and investigation (vichara)? M.: Both amount to the same. Those unfit for investigation must practice meditation. In this practice the aspirant forgetting himself meditates `I am Brahman' or `I am Siva'; thus he continues to hold to Brahman or Siva; this will ultimately end on the residual Being as Brahman or Siva which he will realise to be Pure Being, i.e. the Self. He who engages in investigation starts holding on to himself, asks `Who am I?' and the Self becomes clear to him. D.: Will the knowledge gained by direct experience be lost afterwards? M.: Kaivalya Navanita says it may be lost. Experience gained without rooting out all the vasanas cannot remain steady. Efforts must be made to eradicate the vasanas. Otherwise rebirth after death takes place. Some say direct experience results from hearing from one's master; others say it is from reflection; yet others say from onepointedness and also from samadhi. Though they look different on the surface, ultimately they mean the same. Knowledge can remain unshaken only after all the vasanas are rooted out. TALK 173: D.: Lord, how can the grip of the ego be slackened? M.: By not adding new vasanas to it. TALK 174: Dr. Hand, the American gentleman, asked: Are there two methods for finding the source of the ego? M.: There are no two sources and no two methods. There is only one source and only one method. D.: What is the difference between meditation and enquiry into the Self? M.: Meditation is possible only if the ego be kept up. There is the ego and the object meditated upon. The method is indirect. Whereas the Self is only one. Seeking the ego, i.e., its source, ego disappears. What is left over is the Self. This method is the direct one. D.: Then what am I to do? M.: To hold on to the Self. D.: How? M.: Even now you are the Self. But you are confounding this consciousness (or ego) with the absolute consciousness. This false identification is due to ignorance. Ignorance disappears along with the ego. Killing the ego is the only thing to accomplish. Realisation is already there. No attempt is needed to attain realisation. For it is nothing external, nothing new. It is always and everywhere here and now too. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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