Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Namaste All, It is a case of semantics as usual. Iswara/Saguna and Grace are actually Karma and Prana. Ultimately they are a delusion and don't exist. There is no time therefore there is no Iswara doing anything but supplying the illusory energy. I'm afraid chaps, no 'God' is there to help you but yourself and your karma..........Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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