Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 ThePowerOfSilence , " saikali6362 " <saikali6362 wrote: Selections from TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI-69 TALK 331: Mrs. Roorna Jennings, an American lady of the International Peace League, asked Sri Bhagavan about the spread of Peace in the world. Sri Bhagavan replied that if one gains the Peace of the Self it will spread itself without any effort on the part of the individual. When one is not oneself peaceful, how can that one spread peace in the world? The lady asked if it was not true that the East has a scientific approach to the Realisation of the Self. M.: You are already the Self. No elaborate science is necessary to establish it. D.: I understand the general truth of it. But there must be a practical method for it which I call esciencef. M.: The cessation of such thoughts is the realisation of the Self. Illustration: the necklace supposed lost. One does not see the world or onefs own body, being away from the Self. Always being the Self, one sees everything else. God and the world are all in the Heart. See the Seer and everything will be found to be the Self. Change your outlook. Look within. Find the Self. Who is the substratum of the subject and the object? Find it and all problems are solved. The lady was then told of the pamphlet, Who am I? She agreed to read it before asking further questions of Sri Bhagavan. TALK 335: D.: How will the sexual impulse cease to be? M.: When differentiation ceases. D.: How can it be effected? M.: The other sex and its relation are only mental concepts. The Upanishad says that all are dear because the Self is beloved of all. Onefs happiness is within; the love is of the Self only. It is only within; do not think it to be without: then differentiation ceases to operate. TALK 338: Mrs. Jennings, an American lady, asked a few questions: D.: Is not affirmation of God more effective than the quest, gwho am I?h Affirmation is positive, whereas the other is negation. Moreover, it indicates separateness. M.: So long as you seek to know how to realise, this advice is given to find your Self. Your seeking the method denotes your separateness. D.: Is it not better to say eI am the Supreme Beingf than ask eWho am I?f M.: Who affirms? There must be one to do it. Find that one. D.: Is not meditation better than investigation? M.: Meditation implies mental imagery, whereas investigation is for the Reality. The former is objective, whereas the latter is subjective. D.: There must be a scientific approach to this subject. M.: To eschew unreality and seek the Reality is scientific. D.: I mean there must be a gradual elimination, first of the mind, then of the intellect, then of the ego. M.: The Self alone is Real. All others are unreal. The mind and intellect do not remain apart from you. The Bible says, gBe still and know that I am Godh. Stillness is the sole requisite for the realisation of the Self as God. D.: Will the West ever understand this teaching? M.: There is no question of time and space. Understanding depends on ripeness of mind. What does it matter if one lives in the East or in the West? Sri Bhagavan referred the lady to a few stanzas in Truth Revealed and to Thayumanavar. She retired. Later Sri Bhagavan said the whole Vedanta is contained in the two Biblical statements: gI am that I AMh and gBe still and know that I am God.h Mr. K. S. N. Iyer, a Railway Officer, said to Sri Bhagavan that the compiler of Cosmic Consciousness considers realisation to be possible only within certain limits of age in an individualfs life. M.: Does anyone say gI must come into being before or after some age?h He is here and now. Statements like this are misleading because people come to believe that they cannot realise the Self in this incarnation and must needs take chances in another. It is all absurd. TALK 340: Mr. Bose began, gAfter the return of body-consciousness ...h M.: What is body-consciousness? Tell us that first. Who are you apart from consciousness? Body is found because there is bodyconsciousness which arises from eI-consciousnessf which again rises from consciousness. Consciousness ¨ eI-consciousnessf ¨ body-consciousness ¨ body. There is always consciousness and nothing but that. What you are now considering to be body-consciousness is due to superimposition. If there is only consciousness and nothing but it, the meaning of the Scripture Atmanastu kamaya sarvam priyam bhavati - (All are dear because of the love of the Self) becomes clear. A question arises, why there should be suicides in that case. Why does one do it? Because he is unhappy and desires to put an end to his unhappiness. He actually does it by ending the association with the body which represents all unhappiness. For there must be a killer to kill the body. He is the survivor after suicide. That is the Self. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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