UG. Ravana. Non thought etc.

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advaitin , " dhyanasaraswati "

<dhyanasaraswati wrote:

>

> Dear Sankararaman Avargale :

>

> i am not a fan of U.G. Krishnamurthy. But i am a fan of the

> bollywood movie star Praveen Babi ( THE BOLLYWOOD DIVA WHO COMMITTED

> SUICIDE IN 2005) who thought the world of U.G.

> Krishnamurthy, .irresistibly drawn to the man who said (in The

> Mystique Of Enlightenment : The Radical Ideas of UG Krishnamurti ):

>

> " The search ends with the realization that there is no such thing as

> enlightenment. By searching, you want to be free from the self, but

> whatever you are doing to free yourself from the self is the self.

> How can I make you understand this simple thing? "

>

> Something that Sri Anandaji wrote in his latest post caught my

> attention

>

> ( For example, the demon Ravana is sometimes described as a great

> bhakta (devotee) of Shri Ram. But Ravana's bhakti (devotion) is

> expressed in the form of dvesha (hate). Ravana is so consumed by

> hatred that he thinks more and more obsessively about Shri Ram as

> his enemy.

>

> Thus, by a progressively consuming hatred, Ravana's mind is filled

> more and more with the thought of Shri Ram. And this fixation gets

> so intense that Ravana gets paradoxically more and more immersed in

> the advaitic nature of Shri Ram.)

>

Namaste D et al,

 

I was under the impression that Ravana was a devotee of Siva? Secondly

one cannot be a fan of UG for he taught 'nothing'.

Some time back somebody asked me was I reader of UG, apparently some

of my statements were somewhat similar. I had only heard of JK at the

time so I thought nothing else about it until recently, when UG

'disappeared'.

Being a devotee of something within illusion ie Ravana, Siva and other

concepts doesn't bring total moksha per se. It may bring the

consciousness of the Brahmaloka, but it is still thought and all

thought has to be dropped, for moksha. If you worship Saguna then you

will achieve Saguna. Everything has to be dropped to achieve Nir

Guna...........

This is apparently similar to UG's teachings. I understand there is a

prophylactic reason for religion and rituals, but they are of the

neophyte really and are only useful at that level. Like a child

repeating his times table in infants school. Eventually religions,

beliefs, superstitions etc have to be dropped as ecoutrements and

eventual impediments to the non thought state............Tony.