Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the desire to improve the imaginary self that comes up > > with the > > > > > idea of removing pride and vanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > No! it is to remove samskaras and help purify the mind, so one can > > > > move beyond and intellectual understanding only.....> > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the mind could come up with the idea of purifying itself. > > > > > > Only intellectual understanding could come up with the idea of > > > transcending itself. > > > > > > Can you see what's happening here? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > Namaste, > > > > Yes I'm using a thorn to remove a thorn....... > The self is trying to lift itself up by its own bootstraps. > > > There is a big difference. > > > > toombaru > Namaste, I feel to achieve this state of moksha a certain amount of feeling or energy is necessary. A cold intellectual approach is fine but it doesn't go beyond the mind itself. For in my opinion, moksha is realised spontaneously through Saguna/Sakti and Nirguna at the same time. As Jesus said when speaking as the 'Son' or Sakti. 'The way to the father is through me'. In other words cold intellectual judgment is not enough, if it was then many non dualists on here and elsewhere would be realised and they are not. Look at yourself you already know as much as there is to know and yet you are still bound........Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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