Fwd: [GuruRatings] Eckart Tolle bullshit

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GuruRatings , Sarlo <sarlo wrote:

 

At 10:46 AM 9/15/07, Tony wrote:

 

> > > I was always suspect of Eckart Tolle,that he essentially was

just

> > > selling books. Some of his ideas about a pain body etc are

>unusual.

> > >

> > > However he excelled his ignorance in the present issue

of 'Common

> > > Ground' by saying the ego only started 6,000 years

ago........Ahh

>just

> > > another charlatan..........>

> > could you elaborate on your interpretation that his saying the

> > ego started 6,000 years ago indicates he is a charlatan? Your

> > opinion alone does not say anything to me.

> >

> > is it that you see ego as starting as some different number

> > of years ago?

> >

> > is it that you do not see the ego as starting?

> >

> > and how does his having it " wrong " (per your view) indicate

> > he is a charlatan?

>

>He infers from his teachings that he has reached 'enlightenment' or

>some other definition. I have no problems with him writing books and

>educating the masses it is just the claims that's all. For him to say

>the ego only started 6,000 years ago shows outstanding ignorance of

>history,and the teachings of sages like Ramana etc.plus the

>Upanishads.........If you give these gurus enough rope they

>eventually hang themselves.........Tony.

 

This notion appears to have originated in the Sept Common Ground, at

http://commonground.ca/iss/0709194/cg194_tolle.shtml

 

The relevant paragraph is:

" There's some evidence that the ego started about 6,000 years ago,

but

nobody can say for sure. Before that, humans were in a state of

innocence.

When we go beyond the dysfunction of the ego, we regain our original

innocence, but on a much deeper level. This is why Jesus said unless

we

become as little children we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. "

 

It's a bit silly but he does leave wiggle room for it not being a

fact to

which he is going to cling. The basic idea of " regaining our original

innocence " is not unsound, except to nitpickers like Toombaru. It's

okay

not to like Tolle. Just like Byron Katie, he speaks to many people,

and has

an approach for the masses that may be labeled simplistic. But

doesn't mean

this work a) isn't valuable and b) is the only thing going on with

them.

It's easy, in fact, to believe that they are doing far more subtle

things

with their insiders than they are with their public pronouncements.

But you

don't have to believe, no problem.

 

Sarlo

 

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