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GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote:

 

GuruRatings , " clay " <dan.cesonrocks@> wrote:

>

> GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

> >

>

> > Namaste,

> >

> > I also understand that my 'unconscious' meditation is pehaps

nearer

> > the truth and that bliss states can become the last

> > impediment.....> >

>

> this is a not insignificant point.

>

> how could one possibly move beyond bliss states

> if/when they have the 'bliss state' as their goal?

> sorry, rhetorical.

>

> clay

>

Namaste,Clay et al,

 

On the occassion that I have significant, thanks for the word, energy

movements and bliss or samadhi states they were spontaneous and not

sought. The energy states,k-prana, started when I was a child and I

thought they came off rocks I leaned against but in retrospect they

were within myself. Perhaps because I personally am aware that

anything within any manifestation is Saguna and not the absolute

truth. I can see how people would seek them out and get addicted like

Christian saints ,Sufis and ecstasy states. Presumably they would

move on to the above the mind unsconscious states. Bhuddha does say

bliss is the last impediment..........

--- End forwarded message ---

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