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, " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote:

>

> Hi Tony,

>

> You are ascribing to me ideas and attitudes that I do not hold.

>

> '> As I have posted to Richard before, my own personal belief is

that

> it isn't necessary to got to one place to get liberation over

> another. Richard apparently believes it does'

>

> I have never said this. You may have some heard it, but this may be

> your interpretation rather than what I have said. I have said that

I

> have gone here since this is a place that supports spiritual

practice,

> and further is one that I can afford to live in on my retirement

pension.

>

> 'so him getting involved in rituals is no surprise either.'

>

> So you mean that if you were there you would not have paid you

respect

> for the gifts give by Venkataraman by your attendence?

>

> Ramana recommended to seekers that the spend their time and effort

> with their own spiritual practice and not concerning themselveds and

> commenting on others. Perhaps that would be good for you as well.

>

Not two,

Richard

 

Namaste Richard,

 

Actions always speak louder than words; And people evolve along the

path their own way. I can understand living on your pension in India

that is one good idea, for the time being anyway as India is moving

like an express train right now. There are many other places in the

Western Hemisphere that are cheap as well but no identifiable

spirituality to you, or preferred by you. Native Indian spirituality

is just as valid or invalid as East Indian spirituality for example.

Spiritual pracise can be done alone in a cave and really doesn't need

to be supported. However this is your place on the path and that is

fine, but it is not Ramana's ultimate teaching and he has pronounced

on this type of 'moving around' before....What moves around?

I suppose my thoughts would be; what happens when you don't want to

be associated with rituals and outwards signs anymore? For it is only

your body and mind that associates with these things, as you well

know. Even imagining that Ramana is associated with Tiru in anyway

will become amusing to you eventually. How does a dead jivanmukta

associate with anything?

I wish you no harm but it is just that your words and your actions

are a little different, and I realise that is an evolvement

not....Good Luck.........Tony.

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