Fwd: Ramana Maharshi - questions -Tony

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GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote:

 

GuruRatings , " steve " <spirit5562000@> wrote:

>

> GuruRatings , " Tbony " <haroldalby@> wrote:

> > Dear steve,

> > Most of what you claim above is pure kaka, and your own

projection.

> > Who said that Raman was 'enlightened' following his childhood

> > experience? He certainly never said so.

> > His subsequent history garners his reputation, such that wonders

are

> > made of an adolescent experience in order to justify his later

wisdom.

> > Do not read your own stuff into this.

> > Most of it comes from Paul Brunton and if you want to read a first

> > hand account of Paul Brunton please read " My Fathers Guru " " by

Jeffrey

> > Masson, an acquaintance of mine who lives in NZ

> >

> >

> > Best

> > Tbone

>

> Hi Tony,

>

> You have to be kidding with me, right? You don't believe Ramana was

> enlightened, what? He is acknowledged by almost all teachers and

paths

> as enlightened and acknowledged that he taught Advaita Vedanta, as

in

> the Upanishads.

>

> Please tell me you are joking, and acknowledge Ramanas awakening

and

> enlightenment. Paul Brunton did bring a lot of people to Ramana but

> saying Ramana is enlightened has nothing to do with Brunton. Did

you

> know that Brunton himself was banned from the Ashram in later

years.

> The manager of the ashram was mad at him and banned him. Even

Ramana

> did not get involved after Brunton asked him to interfere. The

decision

> stayed and he was banned.

>

> Jung calls Ramana the whitest of the white in a land of white.

Dalai

> Lama acknowledges his teachings, Papaji acknowledges him, etc etc.

Steve

 

Namaste,

 

In my experiences including India, I would say that I would bet 1000-

1 on Ramana being a Jivanmukta, and I've been fecked over by the best

and worst.

I still don't believe that one needs a living known guru, Ramana

didn't. Also if one is needing help it can come from an unknown Mukta

in a cave, form books or meditation.

With regards to religion, I will concede that it teaches a moral code

to children, but that should be within universal bounds........

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