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GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote:

 

GuruRatings , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@>

wrote:

>

> GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote:

>

>

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Apparently the difference between Jivanmuktas, and other real

> > teachers and phoney ego minded spiritual-materialistic and

materially

> > inclined gurus sticks out like dogs balls.

> > To answer you question Anna so far there are people I would pay

> > attention to like past teachers Vivekananda, Sri Lakshmana Swami,

> > Ramakrishna, Osho etc etc.

> > However the two nearest or actually are Jivanmuktas to me are

Ramana

> > Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj........The rest are just minds

> > performing karmas with ego...> >

>

>

> Ok, tell me why you feel that way, please. Is it the money issue?

Is

> it something else? And when did Ramana and Nisardatta relieve

> themselves of their karmic egos?

>

> It was their karma to be who they are, your karma to be who you are

> and my karma to be who I am, along with those *phoney-ego minded

> spiritual-materialistic etc. etc.

>

> I would never detract from the perfected being attributes of Ramana

> and the Nis, I just wonder out loud how they would come across to

you

> and how they would teach their teaching in today's world, away from

> communities that 'enshrined' them.

>

> ~Anna

>

Namaste Anna,

 

As you are well aware I don't suffer fools and I call a spade a

spade.Yes even Jivanmuktas are serving prarabda karma but they or the

ego is not there.

It is not just about the money but that is a pretty good indicator

that's for sure. I don't imagine Jesus with a paybox at the sermon on

the mount or Buddha with the same at the Bodhi tree. Ramana doesn't

charge either,or didn't rather.

I think the main attribute of a Jivanmukta is the joint conscious and

uncounscious appeal. The projection of a purified vijnanamayakosa,

which can never be matched by the manomayokosa of the ordinary being.

I would encourage people to read and reread 'Be as you are' and other

works where he alludes to or teaches his ultimate ajativada...

--- End forwarded message ---

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