Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > Apparently the difference between Jivanmuktas, and other real > > teachers and phoney ego minded spiritual-materialistic and materially > > inclined gurus sticks out like dogs balls. > > To answer you question Anna so far there are people I would pay > > attention to like past teachers Vivekananda, Sri Lakshmana Swami, > > Ramakrishna, Osho etc etc. > > However the two nearest or actually are Jivanmuktas to me are Ramana > > Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj........The rest are just minds > > performing karmas with ego...> > > > > Ok, tell me why you feel that way, please. Is it the money issue? Is > it something else? And when did Ramana and Nisardatta relieve > themselves of their karmic egos? > > It was their karma to be who they are, your karma to be who you are > and my karma to be who I am, along with those *phoney-ego minded > spiritual-materialistic etc. etc. > > I would never detract from the perfected being attributes of Ramana > and the Nis, I just wonder out loud how they would come across to you > and how they would teach their teaching in today's world, away from > communities that 'enshrined' them. > > ~Anna > Namaste Anna, As you are well aware I don't suffer fools and I call a spade a spade.Yes even Jivanmuktas are serving prarabda karma but they or the ego is not there. It is not just about the money but that is a pretty good indicator that's for sure. I don't imagine Jesus with a paybox at the sermon on the mount or Buddha with the same at the Bodhi tree. Ramana doesn't charge either,or didn't rather. I think the main attribute of a Jivanmukta is the joint conscious and uncounscious appeal. The projection of a purified vijnanamayakosa, which can never be matched by the manomayokosa of the ordinary being. I would encourage people to read and reread 'Be as you are' and other works where he alludes to or teaches his ultimate ajativada... --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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