Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: , " upadesa " <maunna@> wrote: > > > > > In fact book-knowledge is an > > > additional source of bondage to those that are satisfied > > > with it, instead > > > of striving to obtain actual Experience of the central > > > Truth conveyed in > > > the books. > > Dear All, reviewing this recent posting by Alan (quoting the Garland of > Guru's sayings), I would like to raise the question of " Experiencing of > the Truth " as opposed to (or complementary to) " Knowing the Truth " about > Oneself. > Bhagavan always remarked that: " To know the Self is to Be the Self " . > In many traditional advaitic circles, there is the notion that > Self-Realization is NOT an experience, but rather the dissapearance of a > misunderstanding about oneself (since was always the Self), the > dissolution of Ignorance, and these phenomena happens in the mind, place > where the confusion first arose. Since it is true that every experience > requires an " experienc-er " (so dualistic in nature), the non-dual cannot > be experienced because precisely...it is non-dual, there is no duality > of experiencer-experienced possible. > > Should the word " Experience " of the posting cited above be understood > differently? and if yes, in which sense? > > If anyone would be inclined to share her/his insights on this topic, > will be appreciated. > > Thanks and Happy western Holidays to everyone. > > Yours in bhagavan, > Mouna > Namaste, The experience of union with the sakti is an experience, and is the only memory of bliss. The simultaneous realisation of Nirguna Brahman cannot be remembered or experienced at all..........In the end that is the full truth. THAT TRUTH CANNOT BE EXPERIENCED...Cheers --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: , " harshaimtm " <harsha@> wrote: > > , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> > > Namaste, > > > > The experience of union with the sakti is an experience, and is the > > only memory of bliss. The simultaneous realisation of Nirguna Brahman > > cannot be remembered or experienced at all..........In the end that > > is the full truth. THAT TRUTH CANNOT BE EXPERIENCED...Cheers > > > > Are you sure that is the full truth? :-). Exactly how do you know? > Possibly, through your mind? > > The way that can be talked about is not The Way. Harsha, That is what I am saying----the full truth---is neti neti through to NirGuna. As it is beyond the illlusory mind there can be no experience - -hence the truth cannot be experienced..........Anymore than you can recollect sahaja samadhi. Though one can experience bliss on the way down from it so to speak.I can measure my mind to see by experience it isn't the truth.........Cheers --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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