Saguna and NirGuna again and again

[Guest guest]

> Dear Tony,

>

> In both your emails to me and to Alan you have simply repeated the

same old

> unsupported claims. Please be good enough to offer us something of

substance

> from Ramana's teaching or from Advaita in general rather than the

usual it's

> so 'because you (Tony) say so'.

>

> You write:

>

> >> NirGuna by description cannot be BEING...<<

>

> Nir-guna means to be without attributes (without gunas).

> Only something that truly exists (whose Being is Real) can be

without

> something else.

> A non-existent thing simply doesn't exist and can therefore neither

possess

> attributes nor be without them.

>

> Brahman is the only Reality, all else is appearance. Hence in

Advaita

> Brahman is referred to as Absolute Existence - SAT - the only

REALITY.

 

Namaste,

 

Sat cit ananada is Saguna as they are attributes or qualities as

Ramana calls them.

 

I can't prove Nir Guna as by description it cannot be proved, for a

mind is req'd for that.. I can just say that whatever has been said

by Ramana and Sankara leaves the logical and only conclusion. Reality

is Being so is Saguna. It is very logical if creation is appearance

and brahman then brahman must have some duality and mind and this

cannot be so. Non Duality, Ahimsa, Silence all mean the same thing no

duality, no movement and no sound at all.........no projection.

 

I realise that you cannot grasp what I am saying for whatever reason

so there is no point in continuing.

 

I posted something on solomon and sheba perhaps we could talk about

that....................If it gets through....Tony