Belief systems and Vedanta and Moksha

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advaitin , Indian Rediff <indianrediff

wrote:

>

> Dear Sadanandaji,

>

> In my, admittedly brief, listenings of Swami Paramarthananda's

> lectures on esnips.com (please search for the name Parmarthananda

and

> the links will be available - download the MP3s and listen - just a

> side note to beginniners)., I have heard him say that the singular

> difference between other religions and Hinduism (more specifically,

I

> believe he was referring to Vedanta) is that the other religions are

> BELIEF systems where you cannot ask questions, while vedanta expects

> the intellect to keep asking questions - until all doubts are

cleared.

> In fact, he says, in the case of the student who does not ask

> questions, the teacher is supposed to ask the questions himself and

> ansswer them as if the student had asked them.

>

> Based on this, I would humbly suggest that the discussions should

> continue - moderators should simply ensure that all discussions stay

> true to the group requirements.

>

> Humbly yours,

> Sai

>

Namaste,

 

The concept of non duality is very simple. Ramana said that creation

never happened. Sankara said it is real whilst one is in it and the

reverse must be that it is unreal.

 

What didn't happen? I believe that includes the appearance as that

can only be a

projection of mind.

 

If there is appearance or mind then that is SaGuna, illusion or an

attribute.

 

Therefore NirGuna Brahman can only be non-dual...no mind,no

appearance, no being no Gunas.....In other words there is nothing

joining NirGuna Brahman to 'Creation or illusion', not even

apprehended projection Pralaya which is of Saguna. In other words it

all never happened not even the appearance happened..Most are

hesitant to take the last step as it looks like annihilation of

identity and mind-------well it is. It looks like the annihilation of

love,comfort and feeling ---------well it is.

 

It is this last step that sorts out the sheep from the goats,ie.

those that unconditionally want Moksha and those that want strings

attached, and use all kinds of reasons and interpretations of

philsophy to prove that NirGuna is actually SaGuna and vice a versa

when in all truth SaGuna never ever existed at all...........Tony