Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 A comment on my losing my seat on due to people insecure with their devotion...........Tony--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Caspar De Groot <caspardegroot wrote: Caspar De Groot <caspardegrootRe: A personal view.jeffCc: not_2, aoclery, Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:38 PM Hi Jeff, (cc: Peter, Tony)You wrote: "A recent exchange cost someone his seat here."Indeed. I posted a lengthy message in regard to this matter, expressing my reservations about the group's reaction to a dissenting voice.And guess what? My message got "moderated". I've attached it here.Be careful who you trust.Regards,Caspar.--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Jeff Belyea <jeff wrote:Jeff Belyea <jeff A personal view. Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:34 PMIt seems that there are 'teachers' withincredible clarity, and testimony ofpowerful life-changing awakenings...but then some seem to narrow theirPOV (point of view) and argue withthe model of POV from which anotherawakened is coming. A recent exchangecost someone his seat here.Sankara recognized this, and hisphilosophy was so open as to evenrefer to a 'sort of' reality in maya -that only 'exists' (sort of) beforeawakening - or from a singularPOV. 'The Nirguna Brahman of Sankara is impersonal. It becomes a personal God or Saguna Brahman only through Its association with Maya.' --- from http://www.sankaracharya.org/advaita_philosophy.phpJeffPS: A recent post of mine may haveseemed off the wall and irrelevantto this group; the one about "Walk Ins".By way of explanation, I was looking for analogy with Ramana's shift from the I sense of being to the awakend I-I,the "Walk In" may have been toomuch of a stretch, and just a strollthrough the field of vivid imagination.--- is supported by . New articles are added there on a continuous basis. Please register at . You will be kept updated and get the new articles which are posted on the site very nicely formatted in your e-mail.Friends, after registering at , if you wish to contribute your writing to the site, please let me know. Your articles should be original, well written, using subtitles, and be carefully proofread and polished. For a list of topics considered, please go to and take a look at the site. Thanks. Namaste and love to allHarsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Namaste, Due to my 'moderation' censoship on several non-dual sites...I think this deserves a repost------understanding nuances as opposed to retranslated scriptures is important.......... advaitajnana , Tony O'Clery <aoclery wrote: > > A comment on my losing my seat on due to people insecure with their devotion...........> > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Caspar De Groot <caspardegroot wrote: > > > Caspar De Groot <caspardegroot > Re: A personal view. > jeff > Cc: not_2, aoclery, > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:38 PM > > > Hi Jeff, (cc: Peter, Tony) > > You wrote: " A recent exchange cost someone his seat here. " > > Indeed. I posted a lengthy message in regard to this matter, expressing my reservations about the group's reaction to a dissenting voice. > > And guess what? My message got " moderated " . I've attached it here. > > Be careful who you trust. > > Regards, > Caspar. > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Jeff Belyea <jeff wrote: > > Jeff Belyea <jeff > A personal view. > > Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:34 PM > > > It seems that there are 'teachers' with > incredible clarity, and testimony of > powerful life-changing awakenings... > > but then some seem to narrow their > POV (point of view) and argue with > the model of POV from which another > awakened is coming. A recent exchange > cost someone his seat here. > > Sankara recognized this, and his > philosophy was so open as to even > refer to a 'sort of' reality in maya - > that only 'exists' (sort of) before > awakening - or from a singular > POV. > > 'The Nirguna Brahman of Sankara > is impersonal. It becomes a personal > God or Saguna Brahman only through > Its association with Maya.' > > --- from http://www.sankaracharya.org/advaita_philosophy.php > > Jeff > > PS: A recent post of mine may have > seemed off the wall and irrelevant > to this group; the one about " Walk Ins " . > By way of explanation, I was looking > for analogy with Ramana's shift from > the I sense of being to the awakend I-I, > the " Walk In " may have been too > much of a stretch, and just a stroll > through the field of vivid imagination. > > > --- > > is supported by . New articles are added there on a continuous basis. Please register at . You will be kept updated and get the new articles which are posted on the site very nicely formatted in your e-mail. > > Friends, after registering at , if you wish to contribute your writing to the site, please let me know. Your articles should be original, well written, using subtitles, and be carefully proofread and polished. For a list of topics considered, please go to and take a look at the site. Thanks. > > Namaste and love to all > Harsha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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