Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " ts " <nt1nt2@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " Benny " <yabahatum@> wrote: > > > > > Why are we created? > > > > > > To buy time for the Creator. > > > > > > To assist in the repair of his creation. > > > > *_* > > > > In the great repair shop of the beyond, > > creation is hanging suspended on the lift > > while a greasy cosmic mechanic tinkers > > with its parts. How embarrassing for > > creation. Let's talk the Creator into > > giving up and allowing poor creation > > to be free. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiF-NIb0f8 & feature=related > > ~~~ > it is > it's we who have convinced ourselves otherwise. > let's leave this Creator character out of it. > onward. > > -ts- > Namaste ts, Thereby hangs the tail! You have it right leave the so called 'creator' out of it..There is no creator creating anyway. Humans displace psychologically all the time. Even in daily life there is always that problem. In my life I had energy or K experiences from a young age. I thought they were coming from a rock I was leaning against or whatever. Even after I had lapsed out of religion and really only believed 'God' was an energy, I got caught up again. One time I had a really signifcant energy K experience and didn't understand it. I only had the feeling of it must be 'God'. So displaced my Catholic indoctrination on to the experience, even though I wasn't going to Church or anything, the indoctrination samskaras were still there. This experience led me to buy a family Bible go to Mass a few times, take the kids, baptise this and sacraments that for a couple of years. Then it wore off and I didn't return to 'Spirituality' for a couple of years then I got into yoga meditation, different philosophies and Vedanta. Eventually I progressed through the divestment process until I ended up with Ajativasa and Para-Advaita.. However it took a long time to get rid of the programming that I rec'd as a child, and even when I got into the Guru thing for a while, I was still using the old Catholic ritual samskaras in the Hindu fashion, and getting new ones, -----before I woke up to it all. Humans do this all the time, displace the image of a Guru on to their own 'upper mind' and that hooks them in. Same with K experiences etc one can only fall back on one's original programming until one can get an awareness about it all. So I started out Irish Catholic...then lapsed and didn't have any religion. Then had a strong K experience and went back to what I knew, but it didn't stand investigation. Then I was into Eastern stuff and got hooked into a Guru--so I was in the Hindu mode. Then I ditched that and ended up with Ajativada--took a lifetime unfortunately, and in the meantime I was preaching each gospel hahaha. I attribute my awareness rising to meditation..for as one progressed through the levels..the 'awareness' or awareness in the vijnanamayakosa rises. Once one is in the true meditation of no thought no mind there is no action of course... So it was a circle of being a child and not needing 'God', then needing God or Religious ideas in different forms and then ending up like a child again and not needing the concept of God. I think Jesus said come to me as little children--indicating this concept...........Cheers Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " ts " <nt1nt2@> wrote: > > > > > > GuruRatings , " olodumare_4all " > > > <olodumare_4all@> wrote: > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Benny " <yabahatum@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Why are we created? > > > > > > > > > > To buy time for the Creator. > > > > > > > > > > To assist in the repair of his creation. > > > > > > > > *_* > > > > > > > > In the great repair shop of the beyond, > > > > creation is hanging suspended on the lift > > > > while a greasy cosmic mechanic tinkers > > > > with its parts. How embarrassing for > > > > creation. Let's talk the Creator into > > > > giving up and allowing poor creation > > > > to be free. > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiF-NIb0f8 & feature=related > > > > > > ~~~ > > > it is > > > it's we who have convinced ourselves otherwise. > > > let's leave this Creator character out of it. > > > onward. > > > > > > -ts- > > > > > Namaste ts, > > > > Thereby hangs the tail! You have it right leave the so > > called 'creator' out of it..There is no creator creating anyway. > > Humans displace psychologically all the time. Even in daily life > > there is always that problem. > > In my life I had energy or K experiences from a young age. I thought > > they were coming from a rock I was leaning against or whatever. > > *_* Unless, we've got a very different > definition of kundalini, you would never > mistake it as coming from a rock or > whatever. Maybe, we do have a different > definition. Maybe kundalini is nonliving > energy like electricity or something. > > Holy Spirit is your own self before, > after, and all throughout > psychology and personality and the > world, therefore, is always aware > that all things come from it, even the > rock. > > Kundalini may be a turn on to the > nervous system that allows more > mental activity to be seen over time. > Still, I doubt that it could allow > the personality to imagine the power > as coming from a rock. Unless, of > course, the power actually did come > from the rock. I have seen objects > that carried a 'loud' vibration > that is easily felt and some are > either high minded or very emotional. > People also learn to focus energy > at each other. But those energies > are not aware nor do they transmit > awareness, just subtle emotions. Namaste, As I was a child and visiting my uncle's hill farm, as I did every often. I was given to sitting on mountain/hill tops by myself a lot. I didn't understand at that age, under ten years, what K-Prana was. So as I was leaning against a rock, I thought it was the rock. It may have been but on other occassion nothing happened. I did come across a 'singing rock' in Mexico though. Dug up during some building project and covered in carvings. I could feel the energy coming off it.Whether others could I don't know. Most Kundalini people feel is actually cleansing prana,k-prana, as Kundalini itself isn't active in such a way, it actually can rise imperceptibly and in many it does. Just depends on how much cleansing the nadis, sushumna etc need cleansing........so to speak...Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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