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- In advaitin , " Peter " <not_2 wrote:

>

> The following is a summary of some of Sri Ramana Maharshi's key statements

> on Samadhi. Bar a few minor alterations this was posted here by me in

> August 2006. It may be useful to those interested.

>

> Regarding the suggestion that nirvikalpa samAdhi and j~nAna are synonyms:

>

> Is it possible that different people, texts and sages use terminology in

> slightly different ways? We might need to be cautious when pitting one view

> against another.

>

> Sri Ramana Maharshi puts it in the following way:

>

> (1) Holding on to Reality is samAdhi.

> (2) Holding on to Reality with effort is savikalpa samAdhi.

> (3) Merging in Reality and remaining unaware of the world is nirvikalpa

> samAdhi.

> (4) Merging in Ignorance and remaining unaware of the world is sleep.

> (5) Remaining in the primal, pure natural state without effort is sahaja

> nirvikalpa samAdhi.

> (from " Talk 391 " )

 

 

Namaste Peter,

 

I think thereby hangs the tail... Two states.....Ramana talks of 1.'Reality' and

2. 'Natural State'. Saguna and Nirguna!!Reality is Saguna Self...Natural State

is the state of Sahaja -Nir Guna beyond it all. One has to really read into what

he says and the hints and teachings are all there....Cheers Tony

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