Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Namaste, This is what Durga said: Which is an oxymoron. " Ishwara is defined as brahman (nirguna), plus the maya upadhi (the world, or the creation) " . I know my interpretation of ParaAdvaita/Ajativada is unpopular amongst many who are still into Bhakti or have residual beliefs from Bhakti. In fact many would say that my interpretation is Buddhistic or that I am a Nastika or something. What the moderator said above is true, once we try and describe NirGuna--duality prevails. That is why the old masters were wise in referring to it in the negative because that is all one can say about it neti neti NirGuna. It seems that many cannot let go of the corner on the envelope of surrender, and it is comforting in some way to not accept literally what NirGuna actually means. Many continue to try and draw a connection between NirGuna and the Saguna manifestation, when there isn't one. For if NirGuna projected the 'appearance' of the world then it would require a mind and that is duality. As it is impossible for NirGuna to have duality then it can never have happened at all. That is the 'natural state' that Ramana refers to; A state above appearance which is consciousness also. Where does the appearance go to in Nirvikalpa Samadhi?...Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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