Fwd: Out-of-body or near-death experience (for VG)

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GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote:

 

GuruRatings , Venugopal AK <akvenugopal@> wrote:

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> --- On Thu, 14/5/09, Jodi <jodianne2@> wrote:

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> Jodi <jodianne2@>

> [GuruRatings] Out-of-body or near-death experience (for VG)

> GuruRatings

> Thursday, 14 May, 2009, 8:23 PM

> Hi VG,

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> I had lunch yesterday with an older woman, and she mentioned

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> that she would turn 80 this year. I asked her what she

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> thought about dying (we are very good friends so the

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> question wasn't out of line).

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> She talked about her view, or not-view, of 'heaven'.

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> And then she ended up telling me of an out-of-body experience

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> or maybe near-death experience (I don't know the difference)

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> that she had at age 42. It had all those classic things

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> I've heard of. In the hospital. Looking down on her body

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> and all the physicians and interns. Not caring at all

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> what happened to that body. A short tunnel. Golden light

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> that was so appealing. Feeling welcomed. Not wanting to

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> return. Bargaining: my husband can get his act together

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> and take care of the kids.

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> What an unexpected turn of events. She said she didn't tell

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> anyone about it for a long time; she just wanted to process it.

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> And it affected her in this way: she knows everything's okay,

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> she knows she's okay.

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> Jodi##VG##Dear Jodi,                      Thanks for this post. In near death

experience, all physical activities are stopped. The heart stops, the brain

stops, the breathing stops, all organs stops. Clinically dead.  Flat liners is

also a phrase used, because all instrumental display unit will show a flat line,

indicating the inactivity of all organs. In OBE, the body is alive, the

consciousness separates from the body and is free to move around. There is the

Monroe institute which teaches how to achieve OBE.  There are 11 million NDErs

in the US alone. But I doubt whether even a small fraction of them will share

this with others. First thing the ridicule they have to face. Even somebody call

them dishonest and cooking up stories. Or may be they will be stamped mad. Jody,

I know a lady, whose own daughter suspected her mother being a drug addict, for

talking about her NDE. Very tragic thing, last year she committed suicide.

> What an NDE does to the experiencer is convincing beyond all doubts that S/He

is not the body mind complex, but  a spiritual being and death is not the end of

human Consciousness. Second thing is it removes all fear about death. Why should

one be afraid when one knows that death is only a transition from the physical

to the spiritual. For most NDErs their life is transformed in a very positive

way.It talks volumes about you, that a lady shared her NDE/OBE with you.

> RegardsVG

 

Namaste,

 

We all have obe or astral travel when we sleep, we just think they are dreams

that's all.

 

I have had obe just took them in stride, why get attached? Astral and Mental

travel is another thing altogether, than moving around in the lower etheric

sheath....

 

The tunnel they talk of is that the entity moves inwards from the etheric sheath

into the sushmuna and leaves the body at its level...

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