Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery wrote: GuruRatings , " simon " <sweetseasons@> wrote: > > > GuruRatings , " Tony OClery " <aoclery@> wrote: > > > > GuruRatings , " simon " sweetseasons@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > GuruRatings , " Gary Falk " <dukeofdharma@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There aren't two Gods...Saguna is used to describe energy > within > > > > > illusion,,,there is only NirGuna and as that cannot be dual it > never > > > > > happened at all..> > > > > > > > > Sai: Okay, let's try it your way.. > > > > > > > > > > If " Saguna is used to describe energy within illusion " .. > > > > > what term is used to describe that energy.. when illusion > > > > > is absent? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nirguna Brahman is the screen. > > > > > > > > Saguna Brahman is the movie. > > > > > > > > Obama Brahman is the president. > > > > > > Sai: Barry Brahman's singin' true, i'd > > > say. > > > > > > > What's so hard to figure out? > > > > > > Sai: Something else, ... it appears. All > > > Good, Gary.. but the above doesn't > > > address, or answer then, the question. > > > > > > It's a crucial to - this answer. Perhaps > > > that needn't be the case.. hmm, not > > > sure in this moment. If you're setting > > > yourself up as a 'teacher' though - as > > > Tony is/has done, then it becomes so, > > > i firmly believe. > > > Namaste, > > > > tony has not set himself up as a teacher but a relayer of message > that's all... > > Sai: Articles.. website, etc, ... relayer of a message, you say? > > Okay, but whose - whose message? > > > I don't repeat much that isn't in the ancient texts, Sankara or > Ramana. > > Sai: Repeating isn't so much a problem, it's the twisting and > turning, ... the misrepresentation, of those texts, and guys, > that is, Tony. > > Other than that I draw logical conclusions in the philosphical > way...somewhat the same way as St Thomas Aquinas does to affirm his > positive existance of a God, except I draw the opposite..> > Sai: The 'logical' conclusions that you draw, are drawn from > false premises. From half understood concepts, and ideas. I > wasn't at any of those Ramana groups, you were moderated > from, so perhaps, shouldn't comment. Being honest with you > though, i have to tell you, that if i was a moderator of any > such group, ... some words, at least, i would feel needed to be > said. > > I'd consider it a duty. > > And nothing personal. > > > > [=;] > Namaste, Actually the Ramana sites I was moderated on are still of the same mind. One has been deleted and the moderator has moved to where he is still moderating au milieu so to to speak. The other site was Advaitin, where I am no longer moderated for the statements and conclusions that I reached re Ramana's teachings...so I stand vindicated on both counts...I was only talking about Ramana's highest teaching of Ajativada, and sahaja nirvikalpa samadhi anyway. So the moderations were and are unfair and only practised my moderators who are scared of the final teachings and cannot let go of illusion...........Let me tell you Simon if my interpretation was anathema to Advaitin group, I would be moderated but I am not...that speaks for itself. In fact they told me the reason that I ran into some trouble was that I cognised his teaching and some didn't ....Cheers Tony. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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