From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

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Yes yielding our heart to the Supreme Lover shall guarantee Bliss now and ever !

We cannot approach " casually " as if we are buying a CD in a music shop !

 

Love

 

Ramesh

--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO translation Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:41 AM

 

 

From the Garland- WHO TranslationVerse 137. The meaning of the saying that one should not approach the Guru> empty-handed, is simply this. "One should go to him,> who is not distinct from the Supreme Being, with one's Heart full> of love."> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~> > This> quotation is taken from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana- -Mala by "Who,"> published by Sri Ramanasramam.

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Dear Harsha_ Chaithra,

 

I have written a short article on Luthar.com for beginners in Self Enquiry-

called Aids To Self Enquiry. Please read this and then ask me questions on what

ever aspects you like.

 

There are other articles there too by Dr. Luthar Harsha which are very helpful.

 

Other members here may wish to help you, if you ask questions.

 

The best text is Bhagavan's own Who Am I and Self Enquiry. Both of these texts

can be downloaded from Luthar.com or the main Ramanasramam site. It is Grace to

begin Self Enquiry which Bhagavan says is the direct path and infallible way to

Self Realisation.

 

All very best wishes in your quest, with warm regards, Alan

 

--- On Mon, 22/6/09, harsha_chaithra <harsha_chaithra wrote:

 

 

harsha_chaithra <harsha_chaithra

Re: FROM The Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

" Alan Jacobs " <alanadamsjacobs

Monday, 22 June, 2009, 5:15 AM

 

 

, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

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> FROM THE GARLAND OF GURU'S SAYINGS - WHO TRANSLATION

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> > Verse 206:  The notion " I am an unsteady jiva soul) has arisen by losing

hold of the Moveless Self that one really is; the sadhaka(spiritual aspirant)

should efface this thought and remain in the supreme Silence.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > These quotations are from the book, Guru--Ramana--Vachana--Mala by " Who, "

> > published by Sri Ramanasramam

>

Mr. Alan

 

I am new to this self enquiry can you guide me how to proceed im interested..

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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > > Verse 214:

> > > As the pearl-diver brings up the pearl by diving

> down

> > weighted by a stone, so one should win the Self,

> diving into

> > the Heart, weighted by non-attachment.

> > >

> > >

> >

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > These

> > > quotations are from the book,

> > Guru--Ramana--Vachana--Mala by " Who, "

> > > published by Sri Ramanasramam

> >

>

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--- On Wed, 15/7/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 3:26 AM

 

 

Verse 226. He that is without perception of the illusory objects (of the mind and the senses) having fallen asleep in the Heart, is (actually) wide-awake; all others are sunk in the profound sleep (of ignorance).This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana- -Mala by "Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam

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>Date:   Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:34:32 +0000 (GMT)

>   Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs

>Subject:   From the Garland of

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> From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

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> Verse 228. The state of Liberation may be described

> as eternal sleep without any waking, or as eternal

> waking uninterrupted by sleep. (3)

>

> (3) The Transcendental State, called Mukti, is

> strictly the only real waking; but, from the point

> of view of the ignorant, it is also described as

> sleep because he that has reached that State does

> not see this (waking)-dream-world as ignorant ones

> do; this meaning is cryptically expressed in the

> Gita verse:

>

> " What is night for all (us) beings, is the time of

> awakening for the self-realized (sage); and the time

> all (other) beings are awake, is night for the

> enlightened sage. " Gita 2:69

>

> From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

>

> This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana-

> -Vachana- -Mala by " Who, published by Sri

> Ramanasramam

>

>

 

oh yes, how wonderfully simple and true!

 

thank you alan for those pearls of wisdom,

this delightful amrita for the spirit!

 

gratfully,

yosy

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>Date:   Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:31:05 +0000 (GMT)

>   Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs

>Subject:   From the Garland of

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> From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

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> Verse 229. As falling from one's own (true) natural

> State -- which is dearest of all (to him) and

> perfectly happy -- is death, so being re-established

> in that State by the grace of the holy Guru is

> eternal birth.

>

> This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana-

> -Vachana- -Mala by " Who, published by Sri

> Ramanasramam

>

 

Breath

Is the bridge

Between being

And being not.,

Called by people

" Life " and " Death " .

 

The timeless,

All containing life,

One without a second

Has nothing to oppose.

The opposite of death

Is birth.

 

Inhaling –

I am born.

Exhaling –

I die.

In the meantime

My life

Flows,

Unaffected.

 

Praise be!

 

 

yosy

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From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

 

Verse 230. Birth ([living] in the world, due to ignorance and desire) is verily

for the sake of death; and (every) creature dies only to be born (again) in the

world; (but) the death of the ego is real death and (is also) eternal birth (not

shadowed by death).

 

this quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana- -Mala by " Who,

published by Sri Ramanasramam

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--- On Thu, 23/7/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 2:18 AM

From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translationthis quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana- -Mala by "Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.Verse 233. The falling off of the five sheaths (meaning the body, or physical manifestation) , of the one that has become established in the ecstasy of Silence, by the grace of the Supreme Being, was called Nirvana by Sugata. (6)(6) Sugata is one of the names of Bhagavan (Lord) Buddha, who gave to theegoless State the name "Nirvana"; the meaning conveyed here is that thegreat teacher pointed to the same goal as the one indicated here.

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--- On Fri, 24/7/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 5:11 AM

From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translationthis quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana- -Mala by "Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.Verse 234. Just as the moon does not shine at all when the sun (naturally) rises in the east, so when the Sun of Pure Consciousness rises (in the Heart), the self-assertiveness of the jiva (individual self, or ego) ceases at once. (7)(7) It cannot be supposed that the Jivanmukta (Self-Realized Sage) has any will of his own; he acts according as the Divine Nature prompts him; if we speak of him as a person, we must also recognize that his personality is not distinct from that of God..

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> From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

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> This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

> -Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

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>

Verse 239. This Supreme Silence, the Being-Consciousness-Bliss, which is the

Source of all things, pervades inside and outside; it is this which thewise call

Jnana (Knowledge, or Wisdom).

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From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

 

This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

-Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

 

 

Verse 240. This state of being the Real Self by Jnana (Knowledge) is the (real)

becoming God, the eternal peace, the State beyond the three (namely waking,

dream, and sleep), the treasure of independence.

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 From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

 

This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

-Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

 

 

Section 11. NON-DUALITY

 

Verse 241. When by the Grace of God, which is easily won by devotion (to Him),

the mind becomes calm in the Heart, then is experienced that (Single or) One

(Reality), which is(both) the light and the sky (space) by which and in which

the mind and all else seem to exist (but in fact are not actually real).(9)

 

(9) The One Reality, which is Pure Consciousness, is the sole remainder in the

Egoless State. It has been explained that the mind begins to function only on

the arising of the ego-sense. Since this has the form " I am this body, " (or, " I

am a separate, individual entity or being, " ) the awareness of a body is

simultaneous with the birth of the ego.

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 From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

 

This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

-Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

 

Section 11. NON-DUALITY

 

Verse 241. When by the Grace of God, which is easily won by devotion (to Him),

the mind becomes calm in the Heart, then is experienced that (Single or) One

(Reality), which is(both) the light and the sky (space) by which and in which

the mind and all else seem to exist (but in fact are not actually real).(9)

 

(9) The One Reality, which is Pure Consciousness, is the sole remainder in the

Egoless State. It has been explained that the mind begins to function only on

the arising of the ego-sense. Since this has the form " I am this body, " (or, " I

am a separate, individual entity or being, " ) the awareness of a body is

simultaneous with the birth of the ego.

 

Verse 241 (Footnote 9 cont'd).

 

Thus, the mind and the world of which the body is a part (necessarily) arise

together. They are inseparable, to the extent of suggesting that the two are

one, and that the world is only a subjective experience and not (actually) an

objective reality. So long as the ego survives, and the world is being seen, the

Real Self is practically non-existent. On the ego being extinguished, (only

then) the Self is manifest. Now the question is, does the world continue to

appear after the Real Self is realized to be real? The answer is, that the world

goes the way of the mind, which shares the fate of the ego; this is (being)

expounded in the present verse.

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  HERE is verse 241 in its entirety with all footnotes included.

 

 From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

 

This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

-Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

 

Section 11. NON-DUALITY

 

Verse 241.

 

When by the Grace of God, which is easily won by devotion (to Him), the mind

becomes calm in the Heart, then is experienced that (Single or) One (Reality),

which is(both) the light and the sky (space) by which and in which the mind and

all else seem to exist (but in fact are not actually real).(9)

 

(9) The One Reality, which is Pure Consciousness, is the sole remainder in the

Egoless State.

 

It has been explained that the mind begins to function only on the arising of

the ego-sense.

 

Since this has the form " I am this body, " (or, " I am a separate, individual

entity or being, " ) the awareness of a body is simultaneous with the birth of the

ego.

 

Thus, the mind and the world of which the body is a part (necessarily) arise

together.

 

They are inseparable, to the extent of suggesting that the two are one, and

that the world is only a subjective experience and not (actually) an objective

reality.

 

So long as the ego survives, and the world is being seen, the Real Self is

practically non-existent.

 

On the ego being extinguished, (only then) the Self is manifest.

 

Now the question is, does the world continue to appear after the Real Self is

realized to be real?

 

The answer is, that the world goes the way of the mind, which shares the fate

of the ego; this is (being) expounded in the present verse.

 

This verse states the metaphysical truth that the mind, as well as the world,

which appears in it subjectively, has no independent existence, but is (only) an

appearance in the Real Self.

 

When there is the ego-sense, the Real Self is itself seen as all this.

 

When the ego-sense ceases finally -- instead of being temporarily latent as in

sleep -- the Real Self, being manifest as it really is, can no more appear as

the world, which it never was.

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Alan, would you object to me posting this on Facebook.

 

 

 

Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 8:21:31 PM Re: From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

HERE is verse 241 in its entirety with all footnotes included. From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO TranslationThis quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana--Mala by "Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.Section 11. NON-DUALITYVerse 241.When by the Grace of God, which is easily won by devotion (to Him), the mind becomes calm in the Heart, then is experienced that (Single or) One (Reality), which is(both) the light and the sky (space) by which and in which the mind and all else seem to exist (but in fact are not actually real).(9)(9) The One Reality, which is Pure Consciousness, is the sole remainder in the Egoless State.It has been explained that the mind begins to function only on the arising of the ego-sense.Since this has the form "I am this body," (or, "I am a separate, individual entity or being,") the awareness of a body is simultaneous with the birth

of the ego.Thus, the mind and the world of which the body is a part (necessarily) arise together.They are inseparable, to the extent of suggesting that the two are one, and that the world is only a subjective experience and not (actually) an objective reality.So long as the ego survives, and the world is being seen, the Real Self is practically non-existent.On the ego being extinguished, (only then) the Self is manifest.Now the question is, does the world continue to appear after the Real Self is realized to be real?The answer is, that the world goes the way of the mind, which shares the fate of the ego; this is (being) expounded in the present verse.This verse states the metaphysical truth that the mind, as well as the world, which appears in it subjectively, has no independent existence, but is (only) an appearance in the Real Self.When there is the ego-sense, the Real Self is itself seen

as all this.When the ego-sense ceases finally -- instead of being temporarily latent as in sleep -- the Real Self, being manifest as it really is, can no more appear as the world, which it never was.

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thnx Alanji for this important posting.

It is the whole essence of Advaita. The explanation is very simple and very easy

to understand. Thank you very much!

Purnima

 

, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

>

>

>   HERE is verse 241 in its entirety with all footnotes included.

>

>  From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

>

> This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

> -Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

>

> Section 11. NON-DUALITY

>

> Verse 241.

>

> When by the Grace of God, which is easily won by devotion (to Him), the mind

becomes calm in the Heart, then is experienced that (Single or) One (Reality),

which is(both) the light and the sky (space) by which and in which the mind and

all else seem to exist (but in fact are not actually real).(9)

>

> (9) The One Reality, which is Pure Consciousness, is the sole remainder in the

Egoless State.

>

> It has been explained that the mind begins to function only on the arising of

the ego-sense.

>

> Since this has the form " I am this body, " (or, " I am a separate, individual

entity or being, " ) the awareness of a body is simultaneous with the birth of the

ego.

>

> Thus, the mind and the world of which the body is a part (necessarily) arise

together.

>

> They are inseparable, to the extent of suggesting that the two are one, and

that the world is only a subjective experience and not (actually) an objective

reality.

>

> So long as the ego survives, and the world is being seen, the Real Self is

practically non-existent.

>

> On the ego being extinguished, (only then) the Self is manifest.

>

> Now the question is, does the world continue to appear after the Real Self is

realized to be real?

>

> The answer is, that the world goes the way of the mind, which shares the fate

of the ego; this is (being) expounded in the present verse.

>

> This verse states the metaphysical truth that the mind, as well as the world,

which appears in it subjectively, has no independent existence, but is (only) an

appearance in the Real Self.

>

> When there is the ego-sense, the Real Self is itself seen as all this.

>

> When the ego-sense ceases finally -- instead of being temporarily latent as

in sleep -- the Real Self, being manifest as it really is, can no more appear as

the world, which it never was.

>

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  From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation

 

v.330 P. 69

The Sage that abides in the experience of the Real Self, having cremated the ego

by the fire of supreme devotion of self surrender saying 'obeisance to God', has

the realisation of 'I am God'.

 

This quotation is from the book, Guru--Ramana- -Vachana-

-Mala by " Who, published by Sri Ramanasramam.

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> V.241 Footnote 9 cont'd

>

>   The appearance of the world is made intelligible by

> comparing the Real Self to the lighted cinema screen that

> precedes the show, and on which the moving pictures appear

> and pass. That the world cannot appear when the Self

> appears, as it really is, can be understood by means of the

> analogy of the snake (appearing) in (or as) a rope. The

> snake is really not different from the rope; when the rope

> is seen, the snake necessarily ceases to be seen, since

> there is only one thing existing. In the same way, when the

> Self is realized, as such, it can no more be mistaken for

> the world.

>

> From the Garland of Guru's Sayings WHO Translation