Ramana Maharshi says visvarupa is to see the world as the Self of God

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Talk 436.D: DevoteeM: Ramana MaharshiD.: What is visvarupa?M.: It is to see the world as the Self of God. In the Bhagavad Gita God is said to be various things and beings, and also the whole universe.How to realise it or see it so? Can one see one’s Self? Though not seen, can the Self be denied? What is the Truth?

D.: Is it then wrong to say that some have seen it?M.: It is true in the same degree as you are. The Gita begins saying that no one was born; in the fourth chapter it says, “the numerous incarnations, yours and mine, have taken place; I know them but you do not.” Of these two statements, which is the truth? The instruction is according to the listener’s understanding. If the second chapter contains the whole Truth, why should so many more chapters follow it?

In the Bible God says “I AM before Abraham.” He does not say “I was” but “I AM.”Source: TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI Book

-- Love And Love Alone

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri RamanayaPrasanth Jalasutram

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, Prasanth Jalasutram <jvrsprasanth

wrote:

 

>

> In the Bible God says " I AM before Abraham. " He does not say " I was " but " I

> AM. "

>

> Source: TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI Book

> --

> Love And Love Alone

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

> Prasanth Jalasutram

 

" Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I

am. " John 8:58

 

Note that this was said by Jesus and never said by God, Who of course preceded

creation.

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Prasanth Jalasutram <jvrsprasanth@> wrote:

> > In the Bible God says " I AM before Abraham. " He does not say " I was " but " I

AM. "

>

" Richard " <richarkar wrote:

> " Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I

am. " John 8:58

> Note that this was said by Jesus and never said by God, Who of course preceded

creation.

 

 

Dear All, Namaste

 

Although it's true that the Bible mentions Jesus as saying the above quote,

actually in TALKS with RM, Bhagavan mentions one time " Christ said " , another

time " Jesus said " , and yet another time the quote quoted by Prasanth " God said " .

Besides the fact that could have been a mistranslation, for Him it might not

have made much difference between Jesus, Christ or God since the three of them

point to the same Reality, the Self, at different levels of understanding.

 

Yours in Bhagavan,

Mouna

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>Date:   Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:37:14 -0000

>   " upadesa " <maunna

>Subject:   Re: Ramana Maharshi

says visvarupa is to see the world as the Self of God

>To:  

>

>

>

> Prasanth Jalasutram <jvrsprasanth@> wrote:

> > > In the Bible God says " I AM before Abraham. " He

> does not say " I was " but " I AM. "

> >

> " Richard " <richarkar wrote:

> > " Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto

> you, Before Abraham was, I am. " John 8:58

> > Note that this was said by Jesus and never said by

> God, Who of course preceded creation.

>

> Dear All, Namaste

>

> Although it's true that the Bible mentions Jesus as

> saying the above quote, actually in TALKS with RM,

> Bhagavan mentions one time " Christ said " , another

> time " Jesus said " , and yet another time the quote

> quoted by Prasanth " God said " .

> Besides the fact that could have been a

> mistranslation, for Him it might not have made much

> difference between Jesus, Christ or God since the

> three of them point to the same Reality, the Self,

> at different levels of understanding.

>

> Yours in Bhagavan,

> Mouna

>

 

precisely!

 

yosy

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"precisely" only if aknowledged that no one has the right - like till now done everywhere - to claim that "hishergod" is "better" than...

 

please friends take in account that socalled human nature is dominated nowadays specially by "powers of evil" which of course is egoism pure

 

very seldom message of REAL L O V E is understood

 

look for example how socalled humans profit by mistreating minute by minute all other creatures (our brethren!!!) in animal and plant kingdom.....

just for the sake of socalled pleasure and the end of this is the growing numbers of suffering old age "humans"

 

michael

the eternal child

 

 

 

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yosyflug

Friday, August 14, 2009 1:46 AM

Re: Re: Ramana Maharshi says visvarupa is to see the world as the Self of God

---- Original message ----> Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:37:14 -0000> "upadesa" <maunna > > Re: Ramana Maharshi says visvarupa is to see the world as the Self of God > >> >> Prasanth Jalasutram <jvrsprasanth@> wrote:> > > In the Bible God says "I AM before Abraham." He> does not say "I was" but "I AM."> >> "Richard" <richarkar wrote:> > "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto> you, Before Abraham was, I am." John 8:58> > Note that this was said by Jesus and never said by> God, Who of course preceded creation.>> Dear All, Namaste>> Although it's true that the Bible mentions Jesus as> saying the above quote, actually in TALKS with RM,> Bhagavan mentions one time "Christ said", another> time "Jesus said", and yet another time the quote> quoted by Prasanth "God said".> Besides the fact that could have been a> mistranslation, for Him it might not have made much> difference between Jesus, Christ or God since the> three of them point to the same Reality, the Self,> at different levels of understanding.>> Yours in Bhagavan,> Mouna> precisely!yosy

 

 

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