rebirth and animals

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GuruRatings , Joyce Short <insight2 wrote:

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> On 29-Aug-09, at 8:46 AM, Venugopal AK wrote:

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> > --- On Sat, 29/8/09, olodumare_4all <olodumare_4allwrote:

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> > *_* The Christians say that many are called but

> > few are chosen. In the east, there is always next

> > lifetime to try again.

> > #vg#

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> > Vg: No guarantee that next birth will be as a human being. It can be

> > a cat or a dog or even a fly or a mosquito (Grin). Then start all

> > over again !!

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> J: Hmm yes, I thought, nasty, brutish

> but shorter than human. And then I wonder,

> do flies etc. have any sense of time? Mossies

> etc. don't live long it seems but perhaps it feels

> long to a mossie, who knows - although since

> only critters have the sense of self that is so

> problemic (or so I'm told but who knows) then

> life as a mossie might be quite pleasant and stress

> free - no self to imagine and no imagining some

> enlightened self and no irritating your friends

> by telling them, or at least inferring, your enlightened

> status which seems superior to? what?

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> On the other hand, if a human has a genuine moment

> of relief when they see that the rope is NOT

> a snake then great, lets celebrate! And then

> carry on since one is not all done really, which

> is what I thought the article was about - must

> read it again.

 

Namaste,

 

It depends at what level one is discussing the subject. For an egoless mukta

there is no reincarnation as all is delusion and illusion anyway. However if one

is not realised as such then one's ego is still the sutra that the attributes

and samskaras of the ego in any life are strung. These attributes and samskaras

take rebirth in another human body...and so this is the theory of reincarnation

or rebirth.Both Niz and Ramana aver to this.

Taking birth as an animal is unusual because of the vijnanamayakosa having some

development in the human...Cheers Tony.