Dreams, dreams and daydreams.....

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advaitin , ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva wrote:

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> Shyam-ji wrote:

> This does not mean that there is no " waking up " - when we say the person

> woke up

> from the dream world into the waking world, it means that the dream world

> got

> sublated, and was seen to be mithyA.

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> Namaste Shyam-ji,

> The implication here is that we take the dream to be true while we are in

> it and that it is only on waking up that we judge it to be a false

> creation. This standard view requires justification because after all the

> events of a dream are often traumatic yet none of us suffer from post

> traumatic stress disorder due to events in a dream. If they were events

> that were _felt as events_ in the dream state then that fear would

> continue to be evoked even while we were awake. But that is not the

> case. My suggestion is that events in a dream are just like the reveries

> of the waking state, significantly called day-dreaming, only slightly more

> powerful and less in the control of our mind. They have an impetus all of

> their own.

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> To summarise then: we do not _feel_ events in the dream precisely the

> _same_ as events in the waking state. The use of the analogy of

> proportionality - dream : waking state :: waking state : realised state

> is just that, an analogy. There is no exact parallel between the two with

> respect to truth or reality. It is merely a device or useful tool to give

> us a sense of what is beyond our normal awareness.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Michael.

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Namaste Michael,

 

I think that both the dream and so called waking state are dream substance but

one is more stable and has duration. Also one is in the subtle body with no

physical connection to the the material body. This is why there is no post

traumatic stress from dreams.....no material body.----The mind is out of the

body so to speak, as in anaesthesia.

Although some children still will fear a nightmare especially a recurring one...

 

It is just consciousness expanding into all the kosas in its usual way full of

permutations...It reflects off whatever is available...like sunlight it needs

something to reflect off..to be evident.

 

Ultimately it is all one dream that didn't happen anyway.,.Cheers Tony.