Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospam> Namaste All, Wim, Lesley, Hillary et al, Avatar just means 'cross-down', in Sanskrit. So we are all avatars but in the usually accepted meaning of the word we mean a 'fully conscious integrated awareness descent'. I suppose Purna-Avatar or Full-Cross-Down is a better word. Talking about K; The staff of Hermes,(Toth), was the Druid's wand and has been used since the time of Mu.( The Druids even called themselves serpents.) These are the so-called snakes that St. Patrick chased out of Ireland, unfortunately. Well not completely they kind of combined with the Christian Orders. It is found carved in petroglyphs in various places. The staff is the Sushumna and the snakes are the Ida and Pingala nadis running from the Muladhara to the left and right nostril respectively.( There are believed to be 720 million nadis,or subtle nerve channels in the body.) The Ida is called the Moon nadi because of its cooling effect, the Pingala the Sun nadi because of its heating effect. Kundalini Sakti runs up a channel in the Sushumna called the 'Chitrini nadi'. However 'Moksha', does not come about with the rise of Kundalini to the Sahasrara Chakra. It has to go down the Paranadi into the right side of the chest to the 'Heart Centre', ( note Centre not Chakra). I think the Caduceus is used by medicine because people with an awakened Kundalini Sakti are healthy. For She/Sakti cures illnesses and gives even mentally ill people a new intellect. So called 'bad effects', and dramatic sensations from the rise of Kundalini, which most describe as the actual K, are in fact not K-Sakti but the Prana Kundalini clearing out the dross, even bringing out illness. This is to prepare the way for the Kundalini Sakti, so to speak. (My first experience was dramatic but since has been more steady. With regard to Leadbetter, it is my humble opinion that he 'saw', the lower etheric form of Chakra as opposed to the higher subtle. In the end result K is risen and totally integrated desireless integrated awareness. Admittedly for some there is a certain enjoyment in the cleansing prana activity, for others it may be painful. There is a danger at this stage to mistake this as K-Sakti as opposed to prana, and become attached to these sensations. Enjoyment and even bliss are still obstacles to overcome. Until one realises that one is actually the 'God', with no attributes at all. I feel if one can visualise the K then that is Prana. In the final analysis both Kundalini and Sakti are but temporary illusions on awareness. All this can be found in the works of , Swami Sathyananda Saraswati, Sri Ramana Maharishi, Swami Sivananda, Hiroshi Motoyama , Purananda, Yoga Cudamani Upanishad, Yoga Kundalini Upanishad, Yoga-Shikka Upanishad. Love Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 advaitajnana , " aoclery " <aoclery wrote: > > Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospam> > > Namaste All, Wim, Lesley, Hillary et al, > > Avatar just means 'cross-down', in Sanskrit. So we are > all avatars but in the usually accepted meaning of the > word we mean a 'fully conscious integrated awareness > descent'. I suppose Purna-Avatar or Full-Cross-Down is > a better word. > > Talking about K; The staff of Hermes,(Toth), was the > Druid's wand and has been used since the time of Mu.( > The Druids even called themselves serpents.) These are > the so-called snakes that St. Patrick chased out of > Ireland, unfortunately. Well not completely they kind > of combined with the Christian Orders. > > It is found carved in petroglyphs in various places. > The staff is the Sushumna and the snakes are the Ida > and Pingala nadis running from the Muladhara to the > left and right nostril respectively.( There are > believed to be 720 million nadis,or subtle nerve > channels in the body.) The Ida is called the Moon nadi > because of its cooling effect, the Pingala the Sun > nadi because of its heating effect. > > Kundalini Sakti runs up a channel in the Sushumna > called the 'Chitrini nadi'. However 'Moksha', does not > come about with the rise of Kundalini to the Sahasrara > Chakra. It has to go down the Paranadi into the right > side of the chest to the 'Heart Centre', ( note Centre > not Chakra). I think the Caduceus is used by medicine > because people with an awakened Kundalini Sakti are > healthy. For She/Sakti cures illnesses and gives even > mentally ill people a new intellect. > > So called 'bad effects', and dramatic sensations from > the rise of Kundalini, which most describe as the > actual K, are in fact not K-Sakti but the Prana > Kundalini clearing out the dross, even bringing out > illness. This is to prepare the way for the Kundalini > Sakti, so to speak. (My first experience was dramatic > but since has been more steady. > > With regard to Leadbetter, it is my humble opinion > that he 'saw', the lower etheric form of Chakra as > opposed to the higher subtle. > > In the end result K is risen and totally integrated > desireless integrated awareness. Admittedly for some > there is a certain enjoyment in the cleansing prana > activity, for others it may be painful. There is a > danger at this stage to mistake this as K-Sakti as > opposed to prana, and become attached to these > sensations. Enjoyment and even bliss are still > obstacles to overcome. Until one realises that one is > actually the 'God', with no attributes at all. > > I feel if one can visualise the K then that is Prana. > > In the final analysis both Kundalini and Sakti are but > temporary illusions on awareness. > > All this can be found in the works of , Swami > Sathyananda Saraswati, Sri Ramana Maharishi, Swami > Sivananda, Hiroshi Motoyama , Purananda, Yoga Cudamani > Upanishad, Yoga Kundalini Upanishad, Yoga-Shikka > Upanishad. > > Love Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. > Namaste, My thinking on avatars has evolved somewhat over ten years,,,and I now know they must retain an ego to be one. However they can become a jivanmukta during the avatara............Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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