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Hi Tony,

>

> Oh you of the steel trap mind. Satchitananda is not

> a quality. That's the whole point!

>

> Is your being a quality, or do you exist?

>

> Is your awareness a quality, or does it exist?

>

> Are being and awareness limited in any way?

>

> No.

>

> These are not qualities.

>

> This is what is. IMO you are understanding these

> words only according to the dualistic meaning of

> them, and not even allowing the possibility of

> their being used as pointers to that which has

> no qualities but is itself

> existence/awareness/limitless fullness,

> IOW the self/atma/brahman.

>

> Now, I probably should give up and be silent in

> response to your posts, although they do provoke

> some good material which negates them entirely.

>

> Durga

 

Namaste Durga,

 

There seems to be a coterie of people, that cannot seem to grasp that NirGuna

means that...can only be described in the negative....This coterie wants NirGuna

to have some describable 'qualities'...as Ramana says.....Well I'm quite

acceptable to the fact that NirGuna means what it says and that it cannot be

described or experienced..I have no idea what NirGuna is. A word is a

qualification as it is of the mind.....so the Brahman is the Self or Saguna

Concept...which is ultimately unreal....however it seems that on realisation of

Saguna one simultaneously realises NirGuna as well.........I read Ramana's

answer on this and as usual he is talking about the Saguna/Self/Siva.p17 Be as

you are...Cheers Tony.

If you can think about it or speak about it or give it a name or non name it

isn't real..

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does the shine give the sun its presence, is the shine the quality portraying its existence, who is the knower.

-mahesh

 

 

 

aoclery <aocleryadvaitajnana Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 5:32:22 AM Satchitananda is not > a quality.

Hi Tony,>> Oh you of the steel trap mind. Satchitananda is not> a quality. That's the whole point!>> Is your being a quality, or do you exist?>> Is your awareness a quality, or does it exist?>> Are being and awareness limited in any way?>> No.>> These are not qualities.>> This is what is. IMO you are understanding these> words only according to the dualistic meaning of> them, and not even allowing the possibility of> their being used as pointers to that which has> no qualities but is itself> existence/awareness /limitless fullness,> IOW the self/atma/brahman.>> Now, I probably should give up and be silent in> response to your posts, although they do provoke> some good material which negates them entirely.>> DurgaNamaste Durga,There seems to be a

coterie of people, that cannot seem to grasp that NirGunameans that...can only be described in the negative.... This coterie wants NirGunato have some describable 'qualities'. ..as Ramana says.....Well I'm quiteacceptable to the fact that NirGuna means what it says and that it cannot bedescribed or experienced. .I have no idea what NirGuna is. A word is aqualification as it is of the mind.....so the Brahman is the Self or SagunaConcept...which is ultimately unreal....however it seems that on realisation ofSaguna one simultaneously realises NirGuna as well........ .I read Ramana'sanswer on this and as usual he is talking about the Saguna/Self/ Siva.p17 Be asyou are...Cheers Tony.If you can think about it or speak about it or give it a name or non name itisn't real..

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