Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 My Gurus.. I'm not sure how to answer that as I can only go by coincidences...........My first Guru was a spirit called Ibn el Rasa...who used to tell me to take 'the middle path'..I was into the Sufis at the time...I found out later that this meant Son of Sweetness or Rasa like Krishna. He appeared from nowhere and continued in my meditations for some time....even when I had the heavy Kundalini experience in my Heart Cakra... My first book on any guru was on Ramana Maharshi....my second was on Ramana my third was 'No mind I am the Self'..on Sri Lakshmana Swamy and Mathru Sri Sarada..two years after...I was following the sai baba fraud for while but with the other foot in the Ramana camp..During this period I was visited, on an ashram in India, by the Subtle Siddha Yogi and received some initiation or Diksha on the process of meditation to the mindless state. One time I was visiting my late father who lived in Wales...I went up on to the feol or hillside to meditate. Before the meditation took hold I heard two words in Welsh...I don't speak Welsh by the way..So when I came back down I asked my father what the words meant..He said they mean ' small gateway'....ok that was in 1992. For ten years--Until fairly recently I never thought about a physical embodied Guru, only the Inner Guru..So I have only concentrated on the Self...Recently however it came to my mind that I needed something else to make progress, as I seem to be stuck on the wrong side of the river...I am intellectually enlightened but that means I don't need to read anymore...However when I was reading No Mind book again, I found the phrase 'the small gateway' on page 195.. This is what I heard on the mountain in Welsh...Clwyd Bach or similar..Then I realised that an embodied Guru or duo Lakshmana and Mathru must have been monitoring my progress, as I came from the Ramana camp so to speak, as did they....So I take that to be auspicious and if I have a need for a physical guru....I use them...I imagine them in my heart as the Self and then they merge into formlessness...SO MY GURU IS STILL THE INNER SELF BUT WITH AN EMBODIED INNER.OUTER SELF as well...Cheers and Om Namah Sivaya ...Tony, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 advaitajnana , " aoclery " <aoclery wrote: > > My Gurus.. > > I'm not sure how to answer that as I can only go by coincidences...........My first Guru was a spirit called Ibn el Rasa...who used to tell me to take 'the middle path'..I was into the Sufis at the time...I found out later that this meant Son of Sweetness or Rasa like Krishna. He appeared from nowhere and continued in my meditations for some time....even when I had the heavy Kundalini experience in my Heart Cakra... > > My first book on any guru was on Ramana Maharshi....my second was on Ramana my third was 'No mind I am the Self'..on Sri Lakshmana Swamy and Mathru Sri Sarada..two years after...I was following the sai baba fraud for while but with the other foot in the Ramana camp..During this period I was visited, on an ashram in India, by the Subtle Siddha Yogi and received some initiation or Diksha on the process of meditation to the mindless state. One time I was visiting my late father who lived in Wales...I went up on to the feol or hillside to meditate. Before the meditation took hold I heard two words in Welsh...I don't speak Welsh by the way..So when I came back down I asked my father what the words meant..He said they mean ' small gateway'....ok that was in 1992. For ten years--Until fairly recently I never thought about a physical embodied Guru, only the Inner Guru..So I have only concentrated on the Self...Recently however it came to my mind that I needed something else to make progress, as I seem to be stuck on the wrong side of the river...I am intellectually enlightened but that means I don't need to read anymore...However when I was reading No Mind book again, I found the phrase 'the small gateway' on page 195.. This is what I heard on the mountain in Welsh...Clwyd Bach or similar..Then I realised that an embodied Guru or duo Lakshmana and Mathru must have been monitoring my progress, as I came from the Ramana camp so to speak, as did they....So I take that to be auspicious and if I have a need for a physical guru....I use them...I imagine them in my heart as the Self and then they merge into formlessness...SO MY GURU IS STILL THE INNER SELF BUT WITH AN EMBODIED INNER.OUTER SELF as well...Cheers and Om Namah Sivaya ...Tony, > Whether Ibn el Rasa was a spirit or a mental construct of mine is irrelevant for all is a dream anyway....Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 advaitajnana , " aoclery " <aoclery wrote: > > My Gurus.. > > I'm not sure how to answer that as I can only go by coincidences...........My first Guru was a spirit called Ibn el Rasa...who used to tell me to take 'the middle path'..I was into the Sufis at the time...I found out later that this meant Son of Sweetness or Rasa like Krishna. He appeared from nowhere and continued in my meditations for some time....even when I had the heavy Kundalini experience in my Heart Cakra... > > My first book on any guru was on Ramana Maharshi....my second was on Ramana my third was 'No mind I am the Self'..on Sri Lakshmana Swamy and Mathru Sri Sarada..two years after...I was following the sai baba fraud for while but with the other foot in the Ramana camp..During this period I was visited, on an ashram in India, by the Subtle Siddha Yogi and received some initiation or Diksha on the process of meditation to the mindless state. One time I was visiting my late father who lived in Wales...I went up on to the feol or hillside to meditate. Before the meditation took hold I heard two words in Welsh...I don't speak Welsh by the way..So when I came back down I asked my father what the words meant..He said they mean ' small gateway'....ok that was in 1992. For ten years--Until fairly recently I never thought about a physical embodied Guru, only the Inner Guru..So I have only concentrated on the Self...Recently however it came to my mind that I needed something else to make progress, as I seem to be stuck on the wrong side of the river...I am intellectually enlightened but that means I don't need to read anymore...However when I was reading No Mind book again, I found the phrase 'the small gateway' on page 195.. This is what I heard on the mountain in Welsh...Clwyd Bach or similar..Then I realised that an embodied Guru or duo Lakshmana and Mathru must have been monitoring my progress, as I came from the Ramana camp so to speak, as did they....So I take that to be auspicious and if I have a need for a physical guru....I use them...I imagine them in my heart as the Self and then they merge into formlessness...SO MY GURU IS STILL THE INNER SELF BUT WITH AN EMBODIED INNER.OUTER SELF as well...Cheers and Om Namah Sivaya ...Tony, > How it happened to me.I had energy experiences since...I was a child, but I thought they came off rocks or the environment...They started get more apparent and heavy about 1982..I was an agnostic but I thought 'God' was talking to me...I had thought God was an energy anyway...In 1984 I started meditating after finding an expensive book by Richard Hittleman in the one dollar tray...From there I went to North American Spirituality, Chinese Tao, Kabbala and the Sufis...Zikrs and all...In 1985 on a visit to familiy in Australia I was on Bondi Beach, where I ate a hamburger. I fell asleep on the beach and had a strange dream that I was a cow. I saw the whole proces of the slaughterhouse, including fear,smells, noises, terror, cruel treatment etc....It was a horrifying nightmare and I awoke saying aloud 'They know, they know they are to be cruelly slaughtered'.That day I became a vegetarian on the strength of that dream....that very day.I had always said that if I ever really thought about the morality of eating meat, I would probably stop. I was in the Theosophical Bookshop and I bought the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita after attending a speech by so called Sadguru from Hawaii called Butler. I later bought a book suggested by the staff on sai baba and was given an address to go to. This was the beginning of my involvement with this pedophile, murdering fraud guru..(Luckily for me I mostly read and followed Ramana). Anyway I believed he was an avatar not a mukta...and I started reading Ramana Maharshi, by accident from a book in the library..'Be as you are'.1987.I had bought a book of letters from the Ramana Ashram the year before from a second hand bookshop, so I had heard the name.... Then the chronology goes like this....no referrals... 1. No mind I am the Self....1988. 2. Be as you are.....bought 1989. 3. Collected works of Ramana 1990....Sutras of Patanjali.... 5. Ultimate Mediine..on Nisargadatta Maharaj....1989. 6. Pointers on Nisargadatta.1996. 7. I am that...Nisargadatta Maharaj...2001. 8. Power of the Presence....Ramana ...2003. 9. Plus I was heavily into Sankara, and Translated Sanskrit Texts, Puranas, etc.... So that is how it happened........plus visits to India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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