Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 The quotations given so far should make it clear what Bhagavan was referring to when he spoke of the 'I-I' experience, but they fail to address one of Professor Royster's principal questions: why does Bhagavan use the term 'I-I' rather than 'I'? The term 'I' is clearly inadequate and confusing since it denotes either the Self or the ego rather than the aham sphurana which is, as Bhagavan says, 'neither the one nor the other'. A. R. Natarajan in his commentary on Sri Ramana Gita suggests that 'to denote the continuous nature of the throb of consciousness, Ramana repeats the words as ''I-I''.' This is certainly plausible. An alternative explanation, suggested by Sadhu Om,can be derived from the rules of Tamil grammar. In simple Tamil sentences the present tense of the verb 'to be' is usually omitted. Thus, the expression 'nan-nan' ('I-I' in Tamil) would generally be taken to mean 'I am I' by a Tamilian. This interpretation would make 'I-I' an emphatic statement of Self- awareness akin to the biblical 'I am that I am' which Bhagavan occasionally said summarised the whole of Vedanta. Bhagavan himself has said that he used the term 'I-I' to denote the import of the word 'I'. This explanation appears in both Upadesa Undiyar (verse 21) and in the talks that precede Sat Darshana Bhashya. Whichever explanation one chooses, either these or others, one should avoid those which postulate that the experience is called 'I- I' because it radiates in discrete pulses, for Bhagavan was quite emphatic that the experience was continuous and unbroken. For example, in the essay version of Vichara Sangraham he wrote: 'Underlying the unceasing flow of varied thoughts there arises the continuous unbroken awareness, silent and spontaneous, as 'I-I' in the Heart.' ...... www.davidgodman.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Whichever explanation one chooses, either these or others, one should avoid those which postulate that the experience is called 'I- I' because it radiates in discrete pulses, for Bhagavan was quite emphatic that the experience was continuous and unbroken. For example, in the essay version of Vichara Sangraham he wrote: 'Underlying the unceasing flow of varied thoughts there arises the continuous unbroken awareness, silent and spontaneous, as 'I-I' in the Heart.' In regard to the preceding: Michael says: Any and all of this intelectualism comes undone after the actual experience. regards michael The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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