Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 These people want some japa, dhyana, or yoga or something similar. Without their saying what they have been doing so far, what more can be said to them? Again, why japa, it's palasruti, etc.? Who is it that makes the japa? Who gets the fruits thereof? can they not look to the Self? Or again, even if instructed by others to do japa or dyana, they do it for some time, but are always for some results, e.g., visions, dreams or thaumaturgic powers. If they do not find them, they say they are not progressing or the tapas is not effective. Visions, etc., are no signs of progress. Mere performances of tapas is its progress also. Steadiness is what is required. Moreover, they must entrust themselves to their mantra or their God and wait for Grace. They don't do so. Japa uttered even once has its own good effect, whether the individual is aware or not. ~ Talks with Ramana Maharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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