Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 January 23,1936 Maj. Chadwick: I do not know if the Self is different from the ego. Maharshi: How were you in your deep sleep? D. I do not know. M. Who does not know? Is it not the waking Self? Do you deny your existence in your deep sleep? D. I was and I am; but I do not know who existed in deep sleep. M. Exactly. The man awake says that he did not know anything in the state of sleep. Now he sees the objects and knows that he is there; whereas in deep sleep there were no objects, no spectator, etc. The same one who is now speaking existed in deep sleep also. What is the difference between these two states? There are objects and the play of senses now which were not there in sleep. A new entity, the ego, has risen up in the meantime; it plays through the senses, sees the objects, confounds itself with the body, and says that the Self is the ego. In reality, what was in deep sleep continues to exist even now. The Self is changeless; it is the ego that has intervened. That which rises and sets is the ego; that which remains changeless is the Self. ~ Talks with Ramana Maharshi, On Realizing Abiding Peace and Happiness pp. 97-98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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