Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Every time it (the mind) sees, it is in the act of seeing that the many scenes appear as if real to the seeing consciousness. Bhagavan: Creation is not other than seeing; seeing and creating are one and the same process. Annihilation is only the cessation of seeing and nothing else; for the world comes to an end by the right awareness of oneself. Question: What is the relation between mind and object? Is the mind contacting something different from it, viz., the world? Bhagavan: The world is ‘sensed’ in the waking and the dream states or is the object of perception and thought, both being mental activities. If there were no such activities as waking and dreaming thought, there would be no ‘perception’ or inference of a ‘world’. In sleep there is no such activity and ‘objects and world’ do not exist for us in sleep. Hence ‘reality of the world’ may be created by the ego by its act of emergence from sleep; and that reality may be swallowed up or disappear by the soul resuming its nature in sleep. The emergence and disappearance of the world are like the spider producing a gossamer web and then withdrawing it. Major Chadwick tried to persuade Bhagavan that the world did have some reality and permanence. ‘If the world exists only when my mind exists,’ he began, ‘when my mind subsides in meditation or sleep, does the outside world disappear also? I think not. If one considers the experiences of others who were aware of the world while I slept, one must conclude that the world existed then. Is it not more correct to say that the world got created and is ever existing in some huge collective mind? If this is true how can one say that there is no world and that it is only a dream?’ Bhagavan refused to modify his position. ‘The world does not say that it was created in the collective mind or that it was created in the individual mind. It only appears in our small mind. If your mind gets destroyed, there will be no world.’ PADAMALAI The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi Recorded by Muruganar edited by David Godman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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