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The other day someone psied a clip from some scripture that went something like "Climb to the top of the mountain of discernment..... and remain established therein"

 

Can you give me the whole excerpt and the source.

 

Thanks

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Pieter,

Yes, here is the quote, which began a thread on meaning of indifference in this context.

David Godman replied to these questions, and I have appended a copy of his message below.

 

Padamalai, p. 331: > > > > "Ascend to the summit of the mountain of indiference [ udaseena ], > > which shines without desire or aversion, and remain established > > there."

There are links to David Godman's new book, Padamalai on his site.

Click on books and it will explain the origin of the writings in Padamalai/

 

www.davidgodman.org

 

http://www.davidgodman.org/books/padamalai.shtml

 

 

HelloI would like to ask if there is an alternative for translating or interpreting the word [udaseena ] otherthan [indiference]???? This is because the wordindiference would give only the notion of being"callous", which -to my mind- that Sri Ramana Maharshiwas very far from.mouradDear Mourad, The verse in Padamalai is followed by anexplantion from Bhagavan which puts the word in itsproper context. The dialogue is taken from the finalpage of Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi:Question: We are told to practise indifference[udaseena] which is possible only if the world isunreal.Bhagavan: Yes. Oudasinyam abhipsitam. Indifference isadvised. But what is it? It is absence of love andhatred. When you realise the Self on which thesephenomena pass, will you love or hate them? That isthe meaning of indifference.Question: That will lead to want of interest in ourwork. Should we do our duty or not?Bhagavan: Yes - certainly. Even if you try not to doyour duty you will be perforce obliged to do it. Letthe body complete the task for which it came intobeing.Sri Krishna also says in the Gita, whether Arjunaliked it or not he would be forced to fight. Whenthere is work to be done by you, you cannot keep away;nor can you continue to do a thing when you are notrequired to do it, that is to say, when the workallotted to you has been done. In short, the work willgo on and you must take your share in it - the sharewhich is allotted to you.Question: How is it be de done?Bhagavan: Like an actor playing his part in a drama -free from love or hatred.

 

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Pieter

Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:34 AM

Forgotten clip

 

The other day someone psied a clip from some scripture that went something like "Climb to the top of the mountain of discernment..... and remain established therein"

 

Can you give me the whole excerpt and the source.

 

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Gloria,

 

Thank you for this information, and the URL to David Goodman's site.

 

I would also note for people who have not been to his site that he has a

link where we can donate to the Arunachala reforestration project.

 

As one walks up the path from Ramanasramam, one can see the results of some

of this proejcts, with young trees along the path, surrounded by walls of

stone to protect the young trees

 

I love the idea of taking small steps to take care of Arunachala! Each tree

is like an offering at a puja.

 

Not two,

Richard

 

Original Message:

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Gloria Lee glee

Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:28:14 -0400

 

Re: Forgotten clip

 

 

Pieter,

Yes, here is the quote, which began a thread on meaning of indifference in

this context.

David Godman replied to these questions, and I have appended a copy of his

message below.

 

Padamalai, p. 331:

> >

> > " Ascend to the summit of the mountain of indiference [ udaseena ],

> > which shines without desire or aversion, and remain established

> > there. "

 

There are links to David Godman's new book, Padamalai on his site.

Click on books and it will explain the origin of the writings in Padamalai/

 

www.davidgodman.org

 

http://www.davidgodman.org/books/padamalai.shtml

 

 

Hello

I would like to ask if there is an alternative for

translating or interpreting the word [udaseena ] other

than [indiference]???? This is because the word

indiference would give only the notion of being

" callous " , which -to my mind- that Sri Ramana Maharshi

was very far from.

 

mourad

 

Dear Mourad,

The verse in Padamalai is followed by an

explantion from Bhagavan which puts the word in its

proper context. The dialogue is taken from the final

page of Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi:

 

Question: We are told to practise indifference

[udaseena] which is possible only if the world is

unreal.

Bhagavan: Yes. Oudasinyam abhipsitam. Indifference is

advised. But what is it? It is absence of love and

hatred. When you realise the Self on which these

phenomena pass, will you love or hate them? That is

the meaning of indifference.

Question: That will lead to want of interest in our

work. Should we do our duty or not?

Bhagavan: Yes - certainly. Even if you try not to do

your duty you will be perforce obliged to do it. Let

the body complete the task for which it came into

being.

Sri Krishna also says in the Gita, whether Arjuna

liked it or not he would be forced to fight. When

there is work to be done by you, you cannot keep away;

nor can you continue to do a thing when you are not

required to do it, that is to say, when the work

allotted to you has been done. In short, the work will

go on and you must take your share in it - the share

which is allotted to you.

Question: How is it be de done?

Bhagavan: Like an actor playing his part in a drama -

free from love or hatred.

 

 

 

 

-

Pieter

Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:34 AM

Forgotten clip

 

 

The other day someone psied a clip from some scripture that went

something like " Climb to the top of the mountain of discernment..... and

remain established therein "

 

Can you give me the whole excerpt and the source.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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