Talk 625.

[Guest guest]

Talk 625.

Miss Merston, an English lady visitor: I have read Who am I? While

inquiring who the ‘I’ is, I cannot hold it for any length of time.

Secondly, I have no interest in the environment, but yet I have hopes

that I shall find some interest in life.

M.: If there are no interests it is good. (The interpreter points out that

the questioner hopes to find some interest in life).

M.: That means there are those vasanas. A dreamer dreams a dream.

He sees the dream world with pleasures, pains. etc. But he wakes

up and then loses all interest in the dream world. So it is with the

waking world also. Just as the dream-world, being only a part

of yourself and not different from you, ceases to interest you, so

also the present world would cease to interest you if you awake

from this waking dream (samsara) and realise that it is a part of

your Self, and not an objective reality.

Because you think that you are apart from the objects around you,

you desire a thing. But if you understand that the thing was only

a thought-form you would no longer desire it.

All things are like bubbles on water. You are the water and the

objects are the bubbles. They cannot exist apart from the water,

but they are not quite the same as the water.

D.: I feel I am like froth.

M.: Cease that identification with the unreal and know your real

identity. Then you will be firm and no doubts can arise.

D.: But I am the froth.

M.: Because you think that way there is worry. It is a wrong

imagination. Accept your true identity with the Real. Be the water

and not the froth. That is done by diving in.

D.: If I dive in, I shall find........

M.: But even without diving in, you are That. The ideas of exterior and

interior exist only so long as you do not accept your real identity.

D.: But I took the idea from you that you want me to dive in.

M.: Yes, quite right. It was said because you are identifying yourself

with the froth and not the water. Because of this confusion the

answer was meant to draw your attention to this confusion and

bring it home to you. All that is meant is that the Self is infinite

inclusive of all that you see. There is nothing beyond It nor apart

from It. Knowing this, you will not desire anything; not desiring,

you will be content.

The Self is always realised. There is no seeking to realise what is

already - always - realised. For you cannot deny your own existence.

That existence is consciousness - the Self.

Unless you exist you cannot ask questions. So you must admit your

own existence. That existence is the Self. It is already realised.

Therefore the effort to realise results only in your realising your

present mistake - that you have not realised your Self. There is no

fresh realisation. The Self becomes revealed.

D.: That will take some years.

M.: Why years? The idea of time is only in your mind. It is not in the

Self. There is no time for the Self. Time arises as an idea after the

ego arises. But you are the Self beyond time and space; you exist

even in the absence of time and space.