see where the mind rises from

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Day by Day with Bhagavan________8-11-45 MorningWhen (on 2-11-45) Mr. Roy asked Bhagavan the best wayof killing the ego, Bhagavan said, "To ask the mind to kill themind is like making the thief the policeman. He will go with youand pretend to catch the thief, but nothing will be gained. So youmust turn inward and see where the mind rises from and then itwill cease to exist." In reference to this answer, Mr. Thambi Thoraiof Jaffna (who has been living in Palakothu for over a year) askedme, whether asking the mind to turn inward and seek its sourceis not also employing the mind. So, I put this doubt beforeBhagavan and Bhagavan said, "Of course we are employing themind. It is well known and admitted that only with the help ofthe mind the mind has to be killed. But instead of setting aboutsaying there is a mind, and I want to kill it, you begin to seek thesource of the mind, and you find the mind does not exist at all.The mind, turned outwards, results in thoughts and objects.Turned inwards, it becomes itself the Self. Such a mind issometimes called arupa manas or suddha manas."Today, the doorway on the south facing Bhagavan's seathas been closed and a window constructed in its place; andthe middle window on the northern wall has been replaced bythe doorway removed from the southern wall. Going throughthis doorway, Bhagavan need not climb any steps.