Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Namaste, A Living Guru?Mukta is necessary and Why....Jesus, Ramana, Lakshama,Mathru Jesus answered, " I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.John..14:6. This is Jesus telling his devotees that they need him physically to achieve reallisation...and is a typical Vedanta teaching...Jesus always referred to the Self as the Father....even though he was the Son or Sakti... A Living human Guru is essential for Self Realisation. It is the Self acting as the medium of the Guru which finally destroys the ego and only the human guru can act as the medium. When the guru gives up his body The Self can no longer use him to destroy the devotee's ego...Sri Lakshmana Swamy. The exception .Ramana Maharshi was a very advanced soul and almost completed his sadhana in his previous life. The mind can never eliminate itself without the grace of the Self. The mind is afraid of its own death it will not do anything to endanger its own existence. It is like a thief who poses as a policeman in order to catch himself; the thief will only pretend to catch himself because he ultimately wants to escape.... Lakshmana says If one concentrates on and has devotion towards a dead guru then grace will come from the unmanifest Self and not from the form of the guru. This can take one to an effortless thought free state but it cannot pull the mind into the Self and destroy it...Only a Guru can do this.( A real Mukta Guru with power of diksha and saktipat. 99.99% of Gurus are not Sadguru Muktas..and probably 100% of Western teacher satsang gurus). The mind will engage in sadhana or practise thinking that it wants to destroy itself, but as soon as the mind starts to sink in the Heart, a great fear arises which prevents the mind from completely subsiding. This fear is part of the minds self defence mechanism and you will never overcome it by effort alone. It is because of this that you need a Guru..Mukta Guru...--The Grace of the Guru calms the mind and helps it overcome the fear which otherwise prevent it from completely subsiding. Some people say complete equanimity of mind is Self realisation, but this is not true. This is only a stage one passes through on the way. Cheers Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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