Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Dear Manisha, God never tests us neither breaks our heart. It is we who test ourselves and break our own hearts by expecting beyond the expectations we are expected to expect. Even if we for a moment accept your words as true, When You have faith in him and yet feel that he has broken your heart,then that same faith should also tell you that whatever must have happened with you must have happened for your own good which You will realise in future and not now. He never gives us hope for materialstic things in life,which is the cause of all sorrows ,these things we will only get as reward or punishment for our own karmas (Actions) and He has no role to play in this rewarding or punishment except as the principal of a school he is the Head thats all, but yes he does give hope that if you love Him this much then He will inturn love tou that much or many folds. What does he need from us if not love ? After having created crores of Himself in all of us so that all these parts can enjoy seperately the peace or love, He is now waiting for us to come back to the Original Fold, but we are enticed by this Maya and do not want to go back. Money,things what money can buy, happiness from various sources including sex and hoarding,trying to be one up on our fellow beings, is all that Maya is about. In this Maya when we are not able to get what we desire, we then blame HIM.You are not the only One. Most of us do that, Even I do that sometiomes, but that regularity of blaming Him is reducing with passing years, which we in wiser moments realise is not true. What comes to us is only what we sought and ought to come to us through thought,behaviour and actions on our part which may not have been in conformity with the said laws and norms of rightful existence either in this life or previous ones. Your name suggests that You are a Hindu. Please read the Bhagavad Gita whenever You have time, One shloka. as under. Chapter 5, Shloka 14 " Na Kritatvam Na Karmani Lokasya Srajati Prabhu : na karmafalsamyogam Svabhavastu Pravartate " Literal translation - God determines not the doership nor the doings of men, nor even their contact with the fruit of actions, but it is Nature alone that functions . So Dear God has nothing to do with our hopes and heart breaks etc. etc. All comes to us through law of Nature ,action and reaction, and we misuse the bounties available to us with references to things,objects,natural sources-resources,people around us,behaviours,expectations etc. and when the law of diminishing marginal utility starts operating in our lives, then You and me cant bear it. Take care, Whatever happens is for the good, Introspect what You wanted, whether you were worth it? was it too much of wanting, were You being unreasonable? Was it practical ? Did we work for it ? and gt back to me whenver you want to.I enjoy such discussions aslong as people dont find my mailstoo long. regards, Bhaskar. , wavikar manisha <wavikarmanisha wrote: > > Nameste Respected Gurujis > > I have 1 Queryn my mind why god is testing us some times he give us some hopes but later he broke our heart for same thing why do he do this?? i Have lots of faith on hime but i got tears against that why?? > > pls help > > > Keep Smiling > Manisha > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Dear Manisha, You are absolutely right. Any leaf to cannot fall on the ground without His knowing. Now theres a difference. Read this as - No leaf can fall on the ground without His being aware of. Does this mean that if I tell God that make the leaf fall on the my side or the other side,then He should listen to me ? You trusted God for whatever You did. You told Him.that whatever I am doing is your wish. You said in front of Adi Shakt You said in front of Sai Baba. You are religious You say. You love God You say. Everywhere You are there. Where is He ? What are his wishes ? What did he Say to You ? Did he give green signal to whatever You were doing ? Did he give his nod / Did he say you trust me for Your actions what you are into ? Did he give His permission ? If the answer to these is Yes, then blame god, otherwise dont. because You are forming your own conclusions for whatever actions you are doing and just want God to be a silent witness and allow you to do it your way and to your advantage. If he allows this then you are happy with Him. otherwise he is at fault ? I feel pity for God and smypathy . He never had any say in your actions, he never did them he never told you to do it, its just we are doing it and forming own opinions. what a creature man is. selfish and self centered and just abhorrable. when the projections of this nature are shown to us, what You have shown. Dont blame God, its Mother Nature,or Prakriti in Hindi, which gives you results for your actions as rewards or punishments. Bhaskar. , wavikar manisha <wavikarmanisha wrote: > > Guruji, > > Thanks for your response > > from my birth till date i always been told that even the leaf of the tree cant move without gods permission then this is our life which is his creation we are like doll for him > > Few days before some things had happened that broke me apart whatever i was doing that was on his trust i told god that whatever i am doing that is ur wish, in mahalaxmi temple in mumbai front of adi shakti, in fornt of sai baba they had shown me some way which i followed and now that road is stopped > > I am girl who is very religous i love god lot he is the only 1 for me he knows then also he breks me why?? > > I hope ur understanding my feelings > > Thanks > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Manisha, > > God never tests us neither breaks our heart. It is we who > test ourselves and break our own hearts by expecting > beyond the expectations we are expected to expect. > Even if we for a moment accept your words as true, > When You have faith in him and yet feel that he has broken > your heart,then that same faith should also tell you that > whatever must have happened with you must have happened for your own > good which You will realise in future and not now. > He never gives us hope for materialstic things in life,which is the > cause of all sorrows ,these things we will only get as reward or > punishment for our own karmas (Actions) and He has no role to play > in this rewarding or punishment except as the principal of a school > he is the Head thats all, but yes he does give hope that if you love > Him this much then He will inturn love tou that much or many folds. > What does he need from us if not love ? After having created > crores of Himself in all of us so that all these parts can enjoy > seperately the peace or love, He is now waiting for us to come back > to the Original Fold, but we are enticed by this Maya and do not want > to go back. Money,things what money can buy, happiness from various > sources including sex and hoarding,trying to be one up on our fellow > beings, is all that Maya is about. In this Maya when we are not > able to get what we desire, we then blame HIM.You are not the only > One. Most of us do that, Even I do that sometiomes, but that > regularity of blaming Him is reducing with passing years, which we in > wiser moments realise is not true. What comes to us is only what we > sought and ought to come to us through thought,behaviour and actions > on our part which may not have been in conformity with the said laws > and norms of rightful existence either in this life or previous ones. > > Your name suggests that You are a Hindu. Please read the Bhagavad > Gita whenever You have time, One shloka. as under. > Chapter 5, Shloka 14 > > " Na Kritatvam Na Karmani Lokasya Srajati Prabhu : > na karmafalsamyogam Svabhavastu Pravartate " > > Literal translation - God determines not the doership nor the doings > of men, nor even their contact with the fruit of actions, but it is > Nature alone that functions . > > So Dear God has nothing to do with our hopes and heart breaks etc. > etc. All comes to us through law of Nature ,action and reaction, > and we misuse the bounties available to us with references to > things,objects,natural sources-resources,people around > us,behaviours,expectations etc. and when the law of diminishing > marginal utility starts operating in our lives, then You and me cant > bear it. > > Take care, > Whatever happens is for the good, Introspect what You wanted, whether > you were worth it? was it too much of wanting, were You being > unreasonable? Was it practical ? Did we work for it ? > > and gt back to me whenver you want to.I enjoy such discussions > aslong as people dont find my mailstoo long. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , wavikar manisha > <wavikarmanisha@> wrote: > > > > Nameste Respected Gurujis > > > > I have 1 Queryn my mind why god is testing us some times he give > us some hopes but later he broke our heart for same thing why do he > do this?? i Have lots of faith on hime but i got tears against that > why?? > > > > pls help > > > > > > Keep Smiling > > Manisha > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Guruji, Thanks for making me understand, i was carried away by my emtions. But i know i love god and i trust him he won do any thing bad with me Just pray to him that take care of his mad girl Thanks Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Manisha, You are absolutely right. Any leaf to cannot fall on the ground without His knowing. Now theres a difference. Read this as - No leaf can fall on the ground without His being aware of. Does this mean that if I tell God that make the leaf fall on the my side or the other side,then He should listen to me ? You trusted God for whatever You did. You told Him.that whatever I am doing is your wish. You said in front of Adi Shakt You said in front of Sai Baba. You are religious You say. You love God You say. Everywhere You are there. Where is He ? What are his wishes ? What did he Say to You ? Did he give green signal to whatever You were doing ? Did he give his nod / Did he say you trust me for Your actions what you are into ? Did he give His permission ? If the answer to these is Yes, then blame god, otherwise dont. because You are forming your own conclusions for whatever actions you are doing and just want God to be a silent witness and allow you to do it your way and to your advantage. If he allows this then you are happy with Him. otherwise he is at fault ? I feel pity for God and smypathy . He never had any say in your actions, he never did them he never told you to do it, its just we are doing it and forming own opinions. what a creature man is. selfish and self centered and just abhorrable. when the projections of this nature are shown to us, what You have shown. Dont blame God, its Mother Nature,or Prakriti in Hindi, which gives you results for your actions as rewards or punishments. Bhaskar. , wavikar manisha <wavikarmanisha wrote: > > Guruji, > > Thanks for your response > > from my birth till date i always been told that even the leaf of the tree cant move without gods permission then this is our life which is his creation we are like doll for him > > Few days before some things had happened that broke me apart whatever i was doing that was on his trust i told god that whatever i am doing that is ur wish, in mahalaxmi temple in mumbai front of adi shakti, in fornt of sai baba they had shown me some way which i followed and now that road is stopped > > I am girl who is very religous i love god lot he is the only 1 for me he knows then also he breks me why?? > > I hope ur understanding my feelings > > Thanks > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Manisha, > > God never tests us neither breaks our heart. It is we who > test ourselves and break our own hearts by expecting > beyond the expectations we are expected to expect. > Even if we for a moment accept your words as true, > When You have faith in him and yet feel that he has broken > your heart,then that same faith should also tell you that > whatever must have happened with you must have happened for your own > good which You will realise in future and not now. > He never gives us hope for materialstic things in life,which is the > cause of all sorrows ,these things we will only get as reward or > punishment for our own karmas (Actions) and He has no role to play > in this rewarding or punishment except as the principal of a school > he is the Head thats all, but yes he does give hope that if you love > Him this much then He will inturn love tou that much or many folds. > What does he need from us if not love ? After having created > crores of Himself in all of us so that all these parts can enjoy > seperately the peace or love, He is now waiting for us to come back > to the Original Fold, but we are enticed by this Maya and do not want > to go back. Money,things what money can buy, happiness from various > sources including sex and hoarding,trying to be one up on our fellow > beings, is all that Maya is about. In this Maya when we are not > able to get what we desire, we then blame HIM.You are not the only > One. Most of us do that, Even I do that sometiomes, but that > regularity of blaming Him is reducing with passing years, which we in > wiser moments realise is not true. What comes to us is only what we > sought and ought to come to us through thought,behaviour and actions > on our part which may not have been in conformity with the said laws > and norms of rightful existence either in this life or previous ones. > > Your name suggests that You are a Hindu. Please read the Bhagavad > Gita whenever You have time, One shloka. as under. > Chapter 5, Shloka 14 > > " Na Kritatvam Na Karmani Lokasya Srajati Prabhu : > na karmafalsamyogam Svabhavastu Pravartate " > > Literal translation - God determines not the doership nor the doings > of men, nor even their contact with the fruit of actions, but it is > Nature alone that functions . > > So Dear God has nothing to do with our hopes and heart breaks etc. > etc. All comes to us through law of Nature ,action and reaction, > and we misuse the bounties available to us with references to > things,objects,natural sources-resources,people around > us,behaviours,expectations etc. and when the law of diminishing > marginal utility starts operating in our lives, then You and me cant > bear it. > > Take care, > Whatever happens is for the good, Introspect what You wanted, whether > you were worth it? was it too much of wanting, were You being > unreasonable? Was it practical ? Did we work for it ? > > and gt back to me whenver you want to.I enjoy such discussions > aslong as people dont find my mailstoo long. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , wavikar manisha > <wavikarmanisha@> wrote: > > > > Nameste Respected Gurujis > > > > I have 1 Queryn my mind why god is testing us some times he give > us some hopes but later he broke our heart for same thing why do he > do this?? i Have lots of faith on hime but i got tears against that > why?? > > > > pls help > > > > > > Keep Smiling > > Manisha > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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