Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 dear friend iladevidasi it is sacrilege and disrespect to the puranas if you dare to mention that the round ek mukhi does not exist because it does exist and it is in use by many people. if you are not able to lay your hands on it, it does not mean you can start writing about fake beads sold on footpaths near bustand and railway stations of pilgrim centres. if someone else said that it does not exist, dont quote it blindly to say from your mouth unless you know it from your own knowledge. since you referred seethaji as your source of saying these bold false statements that round ek mukh rudraksha does not exist contradicting what all puranas say, you may like to read and understand the following mail (message number 2461) from sacred objects group which throws more light on the round ek mukh rudraksha. ===============quote====================== Namaste! Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact in Shastra. In this connection, I would like to share with this group some precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. " Dear Ole Alstrup, Om Namah Shivaya, I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under: It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one line which most people can make out or understand. There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed the seed is classified as one mukhi. As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two mukhi or three mukhi. The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours . If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from the tree. If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the halfmoon shape,in any way) The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets). In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal structure also. Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while wearing. Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them. In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established practice and it is good for the health of the bead. Regards, Kamal N.Seetha " ~ Ole Alstrup ==============unquote===================== with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Ila devi dasi <ila_mvs wrote: > > Sorry to interfere but I have done a lot of research on rudrakshas and most suppliers and websites make it clear that a ROUND one mukhi DOES NOT EXIST - ek mukhis are MOON SHAPED. Please see www.rudraksha- shakti.com for a very nice article on fake beads - how other round beads are carved to look like one mukhis, and how fools pay thousands of dollars for them! > > Ila devi dasi > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friend > > yes, my trusted nepalese supplier agarwalji has supplied two such > round ek mukh rudrakshas and i have already sold them to discerning > devotees. should you need a round ek mukh rudraksha please contact > on my personal ID. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , " Anand Ravi " > <anandravi2004@> wrote: > > > > Om shivaya namah > > > > Dear pandit arjun, > > > > Thanks. Do you know anyone who sells original round 1 mukhi nepal > rudraksha? > > > > Rgds > > Anand > > > > > > > > " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> > > 30 Mar 2007 21:15:32 > > > > rudraksha as remedy > > > > dear friends > > > > firstly my compliments to bhaskarji who has fixed last date of > every > > month to let the discerning natives know of the services that are > > available to them. > > > > for physical problems, natives visit a doctor and get their > ailments > > cured. however, for mental problems and for delays or losses in > > personal and professional lives, natives attribute to planetary > > affects due to their placement in the birthchart, transit or > mahadasa > > of planets like sadesathi and serious afflictions like grahanayoga > > and kalasarpayoga. sage parashara has written various remedies for > > various problems but most of them are in the nature of > propitiating a > > diety or doing a mantra japam etc. which have become difficult to > the > > modern men and women who are busy most of their day in earning and > > have no time to do these. > > > > rudraksha is the only remedy which has been recommended by none > other > > than lord shiva himself and lord shiva narrated as to what > benefits > > each of the one to fourteen faced rudraksha gives to the wearer. > > rudraksha is the only remedial holy item mentioned in various > puranas > > and upanishads and in mahabharat as well, nay, rudraksha are worn > by > > lord shiva himself. all those sages and saints who left every > > material thing in the world also wear the rudrakshas. > > > > in view of the above, rudraksha is the simplest yet most > efficacious > > holy remedial item substantiated by the classics. since the cost > of > > rudraksha is only a fraction of the costly gems, most suffering > > natives find rudraksha as affordable remedy. > > > > natives may visit www.rudraksharemedy.com to know more about the > > rudraksha as remedy. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > It's here! 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Om shivaya namah Dear pandit arjun, This is very interesting, an eye opening I would say. Thanks for your mail. Just that we are going off the track from jyotish to rudraksha. Is anywhere its mentioned rudraksha as a remedies for planetary affilictions? Can you please through some light here? Upto my knowledge I have not seen the word rudraksha in any of the sacred texts of parasara or jaimini or others. Need your advise. Thanks. Rgds Anand " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 03 Apr 2007 09:46:34 Re: rudraksha as remedy BEWARE! dear friend iladevidasi it is sacrilege and disrespect to the puranas if you dare to mention that the round ek mukhi does not exist because it does exist and it is in use by many people. if you are not able to lay your hands on it, it does not mean you can start writing about fake beads sold on footpaths near bustand and railway stations of pilgrim centres. if someone else said that it does not exist, dont quote it blindly to say from your mouth unless you know it from your own knowledge. since you referred seethaji as your source of saying these bold false statements that round ek mukh rudraksha does not exist contradicting what all puranas say, you may like to read and understand the following mail (message number 2461) from sacred objects group which throws more light on the round ek mukh rudraksha. ===============quote====================== Namaste! Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact in Shastra. In this connection, I would like to share with this group some precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. " Dear Ole Alstrup, Om Namah Shivaya, I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under: It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one line which most people can make out or understand. There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed the seed is classified as one mukhi. As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two mukhi or three mukhi. The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours . If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from the tree. If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the halfmoon shape,in any way) The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets). In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal structure also. Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while wearing. Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them. In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established practice and it is good for the health of the bead. Regards, Kamal N.Seetha " ~ Ole Alstrup ==============unquote===================== with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com @: <%40> , Ila devi dasi <ila_mvs wrote: > > Sorry to interfere but I have done a lot of research on rudrakshas and most suppliers and websites make it clear that a ROUND one mukhi DOES NOT EXIST - ek mukhis are MOON SHAPED. Please see www.rudraksha- shakti.com for a very nice article on fake beads - how other round beads are carved to look like one mukhis, and how fools pay thousands of dollars for them! > > Ila devi dasi > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friend > > yes, my trusted nepalese supplier agarwalji has supplied two such > round ek mukh rudrakshas and i have already sold them to discerning > devotees. should you need a round ek mukh rudraksha please contact > on my personal ID. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > @: <%40> , " Anand Ravi " > <anandravi2004@> wrote: > > > > Om shivaya namah > > > > Dear pandit arjun, > > > > Thanks. Do you know anyone who sells original round 1 mukhi nepal > rudraksha? > > > > Rgds > > Anand > > > > > > > > " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> > > 30 Mar 2007 21:15:32 > > To:@: <%40> > > rudraksha as remedy > > > > dear friends > > > > firstly my compliments to bhaskarji who has fixed last date of > every > > month to let the discerning natives know of the services that are > > available to them. > > > > for physical problems, natives visit a doctor and get their > ailments > > cured. however, for mental problems and for delays or losses in > > personal and professional lives, natives attribute to planetary > > affects due to their placement in the birthchart, transit or > mahadasa > > of planets like sadesathi and serious afflictions like grahanayoga > > and kalasarpayoga. sage parashara has written various remedies for > > various problems but most of them are in the nature of > propitiating a > > diety or doing a mantra japam etc. which have become difficult to > the > > modern men and women who are busy most of their day in earning and > > have no time to do these. > > > > rudraksha is the only remedy which has been recommended by none > other > > than lord shiva himself and lord shiva narrated as to what > benefits > > each of the one to fourteen faced rudraksha gives to the wearer. > > rudraksha is the only remedial holy item mentioned in various > puranas > > and upanishads and in mahabharat as well, nay, rudraksha are worn > by > > lord shiva himself. all those sages and saints who left every > > material thing in the world also wear the rudrakshas. > > > > in view of the above, rudraksha is the simplest yet most > efficacious > > holy remedial item substantiated by the classics. since the cost > of > > rudraksha is only a fraction of the costly gems, most suffering > > natives find rudraksha as affordable remedy. > > > > natives may visit www.rudraksharemedy.com to know more about the > > rudraksha as remedy. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > It's here! 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM Dear Friends, I have seen promotion Of rudraksha, apart from actual religious importance in initiation of Deeksha and certain other rituals.Like japa mala. Has any studies been conducted on claimed results w.r.t charts where in benefit was not seen astrologically but use of Rudraksa altered the circuimstances, inspite of Dasa/bhukti & transit indications? Hope no offence is taken, I mean an enquiry conducted ? Any one who has experience and is in astrology and observed results happening by wearing Rudrakksha. Honestly in days I learned Astrology there were no shops advertising Rudraksha, kavach to the extent they are assumed to be a commercial product. We have learned these are pious things and Mantras for sanctifying these items: held in reverence because in these deity resides with attributes and their powers are invoked but certainly can not be a commrcial products. May be I could be wrong , wish to have some valued opinions on this subject. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - panditarjun2004 Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:16 PM Re: rudraksha as remedy BEWARE! dear friend iladevidasiit is sacrilege and disrespect to the puranas if you dare to mention that the round ek mukhi does not exist because it does exist and it is in use by many people. if you are not able to lay your hands on it, it does not mean you can start writing about fake beads sold on footpaths near bustand and railway stations of pilgrim centres. if someone else said that it does not exist, dont quote it blindly to say from your mouth unless you know it from your own knowledge.since you referred seethaji as your source of saying these bold false statements that round ek mukh rudraksha does not exist contradicting what all puranas say, you may like to read and understand the following mail (message number 2461) from sacred objects group which throws more light on the round ek mukh rudraksha.===============quote======================Namaste!Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact in Shastra. In this connection, I would like to share with this group some precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. "Dear Ole Alstrup,Om Namah Shivaya,I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under:It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one line which most people can make out or understand.There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed the seed is classified as one mukhi.As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two mukhi or three mukhi.The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours .If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from the tree.If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the halfmoon shape,in any way)The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets).In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal structure also.Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while wearing.Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them.In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established practice and it is good for the health of the bead.Regards,Kamal N.Seetha" ~ Ole Alstrup==============unquote=====================with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.com , Ila devi dasi <ila_mvs wrote:>> Sorry to interfere but I have done a lot of research on rudrakshas and most suppliers and websites make it clear that a ROUND one mukhi DOES NOT EXIST - ek mukhis are MOON SHAPED. Please see www.rudraksha-shakti.com for a very nice article on fake beads - how other round beads are carved to look like one mukhis, and how fools pay thousands of dollars for them!> > Ila devi dasi> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:> dear friend> > yes, my trusted nepalese supplier agarwalji has supplied two such > round ek mukh rudrakshas and i have already sold them to discerning > devotees. should you need a round ek mukh rudraksha please contact > on my personal ID.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > , "Anand Ravi" > <anandravi2004@> wrote:> >> > Om shivaya namah> > > > Dear pandit arjun,> > > > Thanks. Do you know anyone who sells original round 1 mukhi nepal > rudraksha?> > > > Rgds> > Anand> > > > > > > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@>> > 30 Mar 2007 21:15:32 > > > > rudraksha as remedy> > > > dear friends> > > > firstly my compliments to bhaskarji who has fixed last date of > every > > month to let the discerning natives know of the services that are > > available to them.> > > > for physical problems, natives visit a doctor and get their > ailments > > cured. however, for mental problems and for delays or losses in > > personal and professional lives, natives attribute to planetary > > affects due to their placement in the birthchart, transit or > mahadasa > > of planets like sadesathi and serious afflictions like grahanayoga > > and kalasarpayoga. sage parashara has written various remedies for > > various problems but most of them are in the nature of > propitiating a > > diety or doing a mantra japam etc. which have become difficult to > the > > modern men and women who are busy most of their day in earning and > > have no time to do these.> > > > rudraksha is the only remedy which has been recommended by none > other > > than lord shiva himself and lord shiva narrated as to what > benefits > > each of the one to fourteen faced rudraksha gives to the wearer. > > rudraksha is the only remedial holy item mentioned in various > puranas > > and upanishads and in mahabharat as well, nay, rudraksha are worn > by > > lord shiva himself. all those sages and saints who left every > > material thing in the world also wear the rudrakshas.> > > > in view of the above, rudraksha is the simplest yet most > efficacious > > holy remedial item substantiated by the classics. since the cost > of > > rudraksha is only a fraction of the costly gems, most suffering > > natives find rudraksha as affordable remedy.> > > > natives may visit www.rudraksharemedy.com to know more about the > > rudraksha as remedy.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy.com> >> > > > > > > > It's here! 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Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Dear friends, Would it be appropriate if I write about how to know Rudraksha are auspicious and genuine. 1. Real rudrakksha shall sink in water and will not float.Exception some imitation may also float. 2. Rudrakksha has sub magnitic properties.If you suspend it by untwisted say plastic thread and bring copper surface/ coin close to Rudraksha, it will turn. The piece that turn clockwise is auspicious.Not turning or moving means doubtful. 3. If real bead is dipped in milk ,Milk will not turn bad till about a day. Hope Knowledgeable experts validate or contradict these sayings These tests are however from reliable authors OF Shri Achute parampara. I did not exercise these checks myself. OM TAT SAT - panditarjun2004 Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:16 PM Re: rudraksha as remedy BEWARE! dear friend iladevidasiit is sacrilege and disrespect to the puranas if you dare to mention that the round ek mukhi does not exist because it does exist and it is in use by many people. if you are not able to lay your hands on it, it does not mean you can start writing about fake beads sold on footpaths near bustand and railway stations of pilgrim centres. if someone else said that it does not exist, dont quote it blindly to say from your mouth unless you know it from your own knowledge.since you referred seethaji as your source of saying these bold false statements that round ek mukh rudraksha does not exist contradicting what all puranas say, you may like to read and understand the following mail (message number 2461) from sacred objects group which throws more light on the round ek mukh rudraksha.===============quote======================Namaste!Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact in Shastra. In this connection, I would like to share with this group some precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. "Dear Ole Alstrup,Om Namah Shivaya,I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under:It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one line which most people can make out or understand.There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed the seed is classified as one mukhi.As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two mukhi or three mukhi.The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours .If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from the tree.If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the halfmoon shape,in any way)The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets).In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal structure also.Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while wearing.Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them.In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established practice and it is good for the health of the bead.Regards,Kamal N.Seetha" ~ Ole Alstrup==============unquote=====================with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy.com , Ila devi dasi <ila_mvs wrote:>> Sorry to interfere but I have done a lot of research on rudrakshas and most suppliers and websites make it clear that a ROUND one mukhi DOES NOT EXIST - ek mukhis are MOON SHAPED. Please see www.rudraksha-shakti.com for a very nice article on fake beads - how other round beads are carved to look like one mukhis, and how fools pay thousands of dollars for them!> > Ila devi dasi> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:> dear friend> > yes, my trusted nepalese supplier agarwalji has supplied two such > round ek mukh rudrakshas and i have already sold them to discerning > devotees. should you need a round ek mukh rudraksha please contact > on my personal ID.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun> www.rudraksharemedy.com> > , "Anand Ravi" > <anandravi2004@> wrote:> >> > Om shivaya namah> > > > Dear pandit arjun,> > > > Thanks. Do you know anyone who sells original round 1 mukhi nepal > rudraksha?> > > > Rgds> > Anand> > > > > > > > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@>> > 30 Mar 2007 21:15:32 > > > > rudraksha as remedy> > > > dear friends> > > > firstly my compliments to bhaskarji who has fixed last date of > every > > month to let the discerning natives know of the services that are > > available to them.> > > > for physical problems, natives visit a doctor and get their > ailments > > cured. however, for mental problems and for delays or losses in > > personal and professional lives, natives attribute to planetary > > affects due to their placement in the birthchart, transit or > mahadasa > > of planets like sadesathi and serious afflictions like grahanayoga > > and kalasarpayoga. sage parashara has written various remedies for > > various problems but most of them are in the nature of > propitiating a > > diety or doing a mantra japam etc. which have become difficult to > the > > modern men and women who are busy most of their day in earning and > > have no time to do these.> > > > rudraksha is the only remedy which has been recommended by none > other > > than lord shiva himself and lord shiva narrated as to what > benefits > > each of the one to fourteen faced rudraksha gives to the wearer. > > rudraksha is the only remedial holy item mentioned in various > puranas > > and upanishads and in mahabharat as well, nay, rudraksha are worn > by > > lord shiva himself. all those sages and saints who left every > > material thing in the world also wear the rudrakshas.> > > > in view of the above, rudraksha is the simplest yet most > efficacious > > holy remedial item substantiated by the classics. since the cost > of > > rudraksha is only a fraction of the costly gems, most suffering > > natives find rudraksha as affordable remedy.> > > > natives may visit www.rudraksharemedy.com to know more about the > > rudraksha as remedy.> > > > with best wishes and blessings> > pandit arjun> > www.rudraksharemedy.com> >> > > > > > > > It's here! 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 dear friend no purana mentions any quality or genuinity test as mentioned by these theories floating around. almost all rudraksha which are plucked recently from the trees float in water. only old rudraksha or those which are soaked in oil for sometime sink. also those old rudraksha which are eaten by insects inside float in water. hence there is no such float or sink test to find the genuinity. i too observed those few rudraksha, which have a natural hole, turning when put in between two copper coins. but all higher mukh rudraksha say 12 to 14 have their top or bottom portion much below the height of the sides. so this test is meaningless as you cannot put the top and bottom between the copper coins. putting rudraksha in milk wont spoil the milk if the rudraksha is 100% pure. however, most rudraksha which are soaked in oil contain few drops of old dried oil inside and it spoils the milk. also the botanical waste and small insects and waste powder found inside the rudraksha comes out of the hole and spoils the milk. so this is no test as such. however, i too recommended people to get a perfectly purified rudraksha which is cleaned thoroughly and then drink the water after putting the rudraksha in the water overnight. here you are not beating and crushing the rudraksha in machines. it is more like treating the rudraksha as a god just like putting a tulasi leaf in the holy water given by any temple poojari. we do abhishekam to a shivling and take that water. so taking rudraksha water only by dipping in water(not damaging) is no sacrilege. some businessmen are selling the rudraksha powder and rudraksha oil obtained after crushing the rudrakshas in machines. it is sacrilege and double standard by these people who are also selling the same rudraksha as containing gods and goddesses. suppose they are selling a shivling as containing god, do they sell the shivling powder for medicinal purposes. to make my own stand clear, i believe and offer these rudraksha as containing gods and goddesses and give them as REMEDIES to those who believe in hindu mythology. those who wish to subject rudraksha to quality tests in a laboratory and find chemcial or botanical properties may not consult me as they are seeing only a stone in a shivling and not god shiva. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , " swamircs " <swami_rcs wrote: > > Dear friends, > Would it be appropriate if I write about how to know Rudraksha are auspicious and genuine. > 1. Real rudrakksha shall sink in water and will not float.Exception some imitation may also float. > 2. Rudrakksha has sub magnitic properties.If you suspend it by untwisted say plastic thread and bring copper surface/ coin close to Rudraksha, it will turn. > The piece that turn clockwise is auspicious.Not turning or moving means doubtful. > 3. If real bead is dipped in milk ,Milk will not turn bad till about a day. > Hope Knowledgeable experts validate or contradict these sayings These tests are however from reliable authors OF Shri Achute parampara. > I did not exercise these checks myself. > OM TAT SAT > - > panditarjun2004 > > Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:16 PM > Re: rudraksha as remedy BEWARE! > > > dear friend iladevidasi > > it is sacrilege and disrespect to the puranas if you dare to mention > that the round ek mukhi does not exist because it does exist and it > is in use by many people. if you are not able to lay your hands on > it, it does not mean you can start writing about fake beads sold on > footpaths near bustand and railway stations of pilgrim centres. if > someone else said that it does not exist, dont quote it blindly to > say from your mouth unless you know it from your own knowledge. > > since you referred seethaji as your source of saying these bold false > statements that round ek mukh rudraksha does not exist contradicting > what all puranas say, you may like to read and understand the > following mail (message number 2461) from sacred objects group which > throws more light on the round ek mukh rudraksha. > > ===============quote====================== > Namaste! > > Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did > you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And > how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see > why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as > rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact > in Shastra. > > In this connection, I would like to share with this group some > precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year > in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic > Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF > RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and > scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. > > " Dear Ole Alstrup, > Om Namah Shivaya, > I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under: > It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there > is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the > tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as > one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes > are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one > line which most people can make out or understand. > There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel > clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by > force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed > the seed is classified as one mukhi. > As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the > mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one > line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one > mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if > the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two > mukhi or three mukhi. > The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi > rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this > rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours . > If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi > rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the > mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if > there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be > treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no > forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from > the tree. > If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from > botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi > rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the > halfmoon shape,in any way) > The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a > mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly > round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the > beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as > how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets). > In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is > available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal > structure also. > Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please > note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed > mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while > wearing. > Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self > manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to > the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads > without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by > and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most > epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while > buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods > and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them. > In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha > and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established > practice and it is good for the health of the bead. > Regards, > Kamal N.Seetha " > ~ Ole Alstrup > > ==============unquote===================== > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , Ila devi dasi <ila_mvs@> > wrote: > > > > Sorry to interfere but I have done a lot of research on rudrakshas > and most suppliers and websites make it clear that a ROUND one mukhi > DOES NOT EXIST - ek mukhis are MOON SHAPED. Please see www.rudraksha- > shakti.com for a very nice article on fake beads - how other round > beads are carved to look like one mukhis, and how fools pay thousands > of dollars for them! > > > > Ila devi dasi > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > dear friend > > > > yes, my trusted nepalese supplier agarwalji has supplied two such > > round ek mukh rudrakshas and i have already sold them to discerning > > devotees. should you need a round ek mukh rudraksha please contact > > on my personal ID. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , " Anand Ravi " > > <anandravi2004@> wrote: > > > > > > Om shivaya namah > > > > > > Dear pandit arjun, > > > > > > Thanks. Do you know anyone who sells original round 1 mukhi nepal > > rudraksha? > > > > > > Rgds > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> > > > 30 Mar 2007 21:15:32 > > > > > > rudraksha as remedy > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > firstly my compliments to bhaskarji who has fixed last date of > > every > > > month to let the discerning natives know of the services that are > > > available to them. > > > > > > for physical problems, natives visit a doctor and get their > > ailments > > > cured. however, for mental problems and for delays or losses in > > > personal and professional lives, natives attribute to planetary > > > affects due to their placement in the birthchart, transit or > > mahadasa > > > of planets like sadesathi and serious afflictions like > grahanayoga > > > and kalasarpayoga. sage parashara has written various remedies > for > > > various problems but most of them are in the nature of > > propitiating a > > > diety or doing a mantra japam etc. which have become difficult to > > the > > > modern men and women who are busy most of their day in earning > and > > > have no time to do these. > > > > > > rudraksha is the only remedy which has been recommended by none > > other > > > than lord shiva himself and lord shiva narrated as to what > > benefits > > > each of the one to fourteen faced rudraksha gives to the wearer. > > > rudraksha is the only remedial holy item mentioned in various > > puranas > > > and upanishads and in mahabharat as well, nay, rudraksha are worn > > by > > > lord shiva himself. all those sages and saints who left every > > > material thing in the world also wear the rudrakshas. > > > > > > in view of the above, rudraksha is the simplest yet most > > efficacious > > > holy remedial item substantiated by the classics. since the cost > > of > > > rudraksha is only a fraction of the costly gems, most suffering > > > natives find rudraksha as affordable remedy. > > > > > > natives may visit www.rudraksharemedy.com to know more about the > > > rudraksha as remedy. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's here! 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Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 dear friend am happy to answer your queries as this is precisely what i have been doing. all astrology classics prescribe lordships to the planets and these lords are obviously gods and goddesses. from the lagna chart and from the transit of planets you would find out the planetary afflictions and what planet is causing the problems faced by the native and you suggest the native to propitiate this or that god corresponding to this or that planet to get out of the suffering. there are two ways of suggesting rudraksha as a remedy. first is strictly as per the specific benefits that each of the 1 to 14 rudraksha is supposed to give(as mentioned by lord shiva in the puranas) and find out which rudraksha is best suited to the native purely based on his suffering or desire. second way is to find out the lord of the planet which is causing the suffering or which lord gives what the native wants. then find out which rudraksha has the same lordship or which rudraksha gives these results based on the lordships. as regards planetary correlation is concerned, no purana mention attribution of planets to rudrakshas. only twelve mukh rudraksha is attributed to lord sun and more than 90% of my prescription is twelve mukh rudraksha which gave positive results to the customers. i may go a step further and say that if any person wears the twelve mukh rudraksha for any problem, he must get positive results because the twelve adityas shine in full glory in the wearer of the 12mukh rudraksha. however, since this mythological result is obtained after its sanctification or energisation, the native finds results only when this rudrakha is given after these value added services which i follow religiously. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , " swami " <swami_rcs wrote: > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Hari OM > Dear Friends, > I have seen promotion Of rudraksha, apart from actual religious importance in initiation of Deeksha > and certain other rituals.Like japa mala. > Has any studies been conducted on claimed results w.r.t charts where in benefit was not seen astrologically but use of Rudraksa altered the circuimstances, inspite of Dasa/bhukti & transit indications? > Hope no offence is taken, I mean an enquiry conducted ? > Any one who has experience and is in astrology and observed results happening by wearing Rudrakksha. > Honestly in days I learned Astrology there were no shops advertising Rudraksha, kavach to the extent > they are assumed to be a commercial product. > We have learned these are pious things and Mantras for sanctifying these items: held in reverence because in these deity resides with attributes and their powers are invoked but certainly can not be a commrcial products. > May be I could be wrong , wish to have some valued opinions on this subject. > > > OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > R.C.Srivastava > B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi > Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223; > Mob 9412268768 > Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga > ------------------------ > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > - > panditarjun2004 > > Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:16 PM > Re: rudraksha as remedy BEWARE! > > > dear friend iladevidasi > > it is sacrilege and disrespect to the puranas if you dare to mention > that the round ek mukhi does not exist because it does exist and it > is in use by many people. if you are not able to lay your hands on > it, it does not mean you can start writing about fake beads sold on > footpaths near bustand and railway stations of pilgrim centres. if > someone else said that it does not exist, dont quote it blindly to > say from your mouth unless you know it from your own knowledge. > > since you referred seethaji as your source of saying these bold false > statements that round ek mukh rudraksha does not exist contradicting > what all puranas say, you may like to read and understand the > following mail (message number 2461) from sacred objects group which > throws more light on the round ek mukh rudraksha. > > ===============quote====================== > Namaste! > > Certainly an interesting story, incredible or credible... how did > you learn that the bead shown to you was not 'genuine' after all? And > how do you arrive at the bold other-worldly conclusion, I fail to see > why Genuine Round One Mukhi Rudraksha cannot exist on this plane, as > rare as it may be in this Kali Yuga, as it is already given as a fact > in Shastra. > > In this connection, I would like to share with this group some > precious information, on the same subject, shared earlier this year > in a private mail to me by Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha, the Vedic > Scholar and Venerable Founder of Rudra Centre and author of POWER OF > RUDRAKSHA, likely the greatest living exponent of Authentic and > scientific Knowledge of Sri Rudraksha. > > " Dear Ole Alstrup, > Om Namah Shivaya, > I am pleased to have received your mail and my reply is as under: > It has been the contention of many that any rudraksha in which there > is only one line existing from the time it is plucked from the > tree ,without any tampering or disfiguring later may be accepted as > one mukhi rudraksha.such rudraksha is also very rare and all fakes > are tampered only later by removing other lines and leaving only one > line which most people can make out or understand. > There is a practice which gets succeeded in Nepal in which steel > clamps are fastened over the shell of a 2 mukhi rudraksha and by > force the growth of second line is retarded.If they really succeed > the seed is classified as one mukhi. > As I have mentioned in my book,if the lines originating from the > mouth portion do not get completed in a natural process and only one > line exists in its original shape,the bead may be accepted as one > mukhi,although such cases are also extremely rare.It is immaterial if > the shape has a five or four mukhi locule or it was meant to be two > mukhi or three mukhi. > The bead shown as one mukhi in my book is shapewise a 4 mukhi > rudraksha but there is only one line which existed naturally and this > rudraksha has never been tampered.This rudraksha is ours . > If we try to put in yet another way,take an example of say 10 mukhi > rudraksha.How do we count the lines.We ignore the splitting at the > mouth and we are only concerened with the completed lines.Even if > there are 12 lines but 2 of them are incomplete the rudraksha will be > treated as 10 mukhi only.Just one must ensure that there is no > forceful man made change after the bead gets formed and plucked from > the tree. > If we can imagine and formate the pojected shape of one mukhi from > botanical view point,its shape should be similar to a two mukhi > rudraksha,or like an eye(you may call it ellyptical).(Not the > halfmoon shape,in any way) > The so called original one mukhi from Nepal in round variety is a > mystery and any rudraksha which is absolutely round or even nearly > round can not be one mukhi as per the distinct natural shape the > beads adopt from 5 mukhi and lower.Pl see the shapes once again as > how the nature changes its shape with respect to mukhi(facets). > In this regard the one mukhi from Indonesia is genuine and is > available.This can be certified as one mukhi due to its internal > structure also. > Regarding the blessings and chanting of Mantras for rudraksha please > note that all old epics suggest us to do this.There are specific seed > mantras for different mukhis which are meant for chanting while > wearing. > Although due to its miraculous and higher level of energies and self > manifestation,some epics also say in their way of great reverence to > the beads that even if you do not worship and wear these beads > without getting them blessed the beads will be effective.However,by > and large this purification and blessing is necessary as per most > epics and saints and sages.In India most people even while > buying .In any way all mukhi beads are rules over by different gods > and they have got to be pleased to derive benefits through them. > In India most people take out their shoes while buying rudraksha > and it is a symbol of piousness and purity which is an established > practice and it is good for the health of the bead. > Regards, > Kamal N.Seetha " > ~ Ole Alstrup > > ==============unquote===================== > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , Ila devi dasi <ila_mvs@> > wrote: > > > > Sorry to interfere but I have done a lot of research on rudrakshas > and most suppliers and websites make it clear that a ROUND one mukhi > DOES NOT EXIST - ek mukhis are MOON SHAPED. Please see www.rudraksha- > shakti.com for a very nice article on fake beads - how other round > beads are carved to look like one mukhis, and how fools pay thousands > of dollars for them! > > > > Ila devi dasi > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > dear friend > > > > yes, my trusted nepalese supplier agarwalji has supplied two such > > round ek mukh rudrakshas and i have already sold them to discerning > > devotees. should you need a round ek mukh rudraksha please contact > > on my personal ID. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , " Anand Ravi " > > <anandravi2004@> wrote: > > > > > > Om shivaya namah > > > > > > Dear pandit arjun, > > > > > > Thanks. Do you know anyone who sells original round 1 mukhi nepal > > rudraksha? > > > > > > Rgds > > > Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@> > > > 30 Mar 2007 21:15:32 > > > > > > rudraksha as remedy > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > firstly my compliments to bhaskarji who has fixed last date of > > every > > > month to let the discerning natives know of the services that are > > > available to them. > > > > > > for physical problems, natives visit a doctor and get their > > ailments > > > cured. however, for mental problems and for delays or losses in > > > personal and professional lives, natives attribute to planetary > > > affects due to their placement in the birthchart, transit or > > mahadasa > > > of planets like sadesathi and serious afflictions like > grahanayoga > > > and kalasarpayoga. sage parashara has written various remedies > for > > > various problems but most of them are in the nature of > > propitiating a > > > diety or doing a mantra japam etc. which have become difficult to > > the > > > modern men and women who are busy most of their day in earning > and > > > have no time to do these. > > > > > > rudraksha is the only remedy which has been recommended by none > > other > > > than lord shiva himself and lord shiva narrated as to what > > benefits > > > each of the one to fourteen faced rudraksha gives to the wearer. > > > rudraksha is the only remedial holy item mentioned in various > > puranas > > > and upanishads and in mahabharat as well, nay, rudraksha are worn > > by > > > lord shiva himself. all those sages and saints who left every > > > material thing in the world also wear the rudrakshas. > > > > > > in view of the above, rudraksha is the simplest yet most > > efficacious > > > holy remedial item substantiated by the classics. since the cost > > of > > > rudraksha is only a fraction of the costly gems, most suffering > > > natives find rudraksha as affordable remedy. > > > > > > natives may visit www.rudraksharemedy.com to know more about the > > > rudraksha as remedy. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's here! 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