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Thank you Mr. Rohit,This is very important. Could you please give me some

information on followingwhat is sfatik mala and where can I get

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[vedic astrology] GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands

of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

 

The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

but i got thousands results...and when i found that

its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u

all....

 

Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

karyasiddhi...

 

to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

 

AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

 

need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

pocket....

 

the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

 

god bless

 

rohit jivani

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Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands

of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

 

The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

but i got thousands results...and when i found that

its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u

all....

 

Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

karyasiddhi...

 

to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

 

AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

 

need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

pocket....

 

the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

 

god bless

 

rohit jivani

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Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

mantras.God bless you.

G R Raja

--- rohitjivani <rohitjivani wrote:

 

> Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> Mantra...I wrote

> a practically success mantra before this

> post...there are thousands

> of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> mantra with

> proper procedures the result will be excellent

> ...shabar mantras

> offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> mantras r not so

> much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> strong and it is

> hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

>

> The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> read by me

> but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> magic towards u

> all....

>

> Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> mantra with

> you, it is use to get success in interview or for

> special

> karyasiddhi...

>

> to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> against east on

> white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> of

> chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> then put a

> sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

> the chant

>

> AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> KARI FAT SWAHA

>

> need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> interview or

> particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> keep it in

> pocket....

>

> the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> result

>

> god bless

>

> rohit jivani

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Members,

I request all the Members reading such posts that You wouldbe reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own riskand consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is not reposnible in any manner for the results obtained thereof.

Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any astrologer approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id or otherwise,for Consultations with any commercial undertone alongwith.

Personal note regarding mantras-I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta(Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have to be complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the scriptures. No doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving results, but a single mistake can be dangerous, including pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are best done under personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these. Any mantra which contain the words "Swaha" or "Phat", at ending of the Mantra.I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any personal presence of a well versed Priest in company.I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give effects, but are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous at all, I should say., with no side effects or any contrary re-actions.

Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be posted here, but does not mean that we confirm what all have been written or mentioned therein.

I also request the members not to put their websites for display with their mails, and this opportunity to display wares or goods/products/services is given on the last day of each month,when You can have a show case of all You are offering, under Moderation.

Best Wishes,Bhaskar.Moderator.

, "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani wrote:>> Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote> a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands> of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with> proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras> offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so> much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is> hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me> but i got thousands results...and when i found that> its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u> all....> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with> you, it is use to get success in interview or for special> karyasiddhi...> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on> white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of> chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a> sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or> particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in> pocket....> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result> > god bless> > rohit jivani>

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Om Namah Shivaya

 

Dear Sri Bhaskar, Namaste

 

Hope all well at your end. Its good to read your mail after a long time. I do

agree with you on this. This is the main reason I normally don't suggest

mahavidya mantras also. These are super fast results giving mantras but even a

slight error can results in great sufferings, like sword hanging above the head.

 

I would prefer more of vedic and jyotir linga mantras which goes to the root to

solve the problems even if they take that extra time.

 

BTW, did you get the contacts of the TM chapter at chennai which I asked you

sometime before.

 

Rgds

Anand

 

 

 

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:04:40

 

Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

Dear Members,

 

I request all the Members reading such posts that You would

be reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own risk

and consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is not reposnible

in any manner for the results obtained thereof.

 

Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.

You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any astrologer

approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id or otherwise,for

Consultations with any commercial undertone alongwith.

 

Personal note regarding mantras-

I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta

(Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have to be

complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the scriptures. No

doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving results, but a single mistake

can be dangerous, including pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are

best done under personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these.

Any mantra which contain the words " Swaha " or " Phat " , at ending of the Mantra.

I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any personal presence

of a well versed Priest in company.

I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give effects, but

are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous at all, I should say.,

with no side effects or

any contrary re-actions.

 

Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be posted here,

but does not mean that we confirm what all have been written or mentioned

therein.

 

I also request the members not to put their websites for display with their

mails, and this opportunity to display wares or goods/products/services is given

on the last day of each month,when You can have a show case of all You are

offering, under Moderation.

 

Best Wishes,

Bhaskar.

Moderator.

 

 

, " rohitjivani " <rohitjivani wrote:

>

> Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

> a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands

> of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

> proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

> offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

> much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

> hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

>

> The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

> but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u

> all....

>

> Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

> you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

> karyasiddhi...

>

> to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

> white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

> chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

> sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

>

> AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

>

> need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

> particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

> pocket....

>

> the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

>

> god bless

>

> rohit jivani

>

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Dear Sri Rohit,

 

Also it should be “Phat” and not “Fat”.

 

If read as “Fat” the meaning and usage of the mantra changes totally.

 

Rgds

Anand

--

 

Apr 26, 2007 23:00

Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

Om Namah Shivaya

 

Dear Sri Bhaskar, Namaste

 

Hope all well at your end. Its good to read your mail after a long time. I do

agree with you on this. This is the main reason I normally don't suggest

mahavidya mantras also. These are super fast results giving mantras but even a

slight error can results in great sufferings, like sword hanging above the head.

 

I would prefer more of vedic and jyotir linga mantras which goes to the root to

solve the problems even if they take that extra time.

 

BTW, did you get the contacts of the TM chapter at chennai which I asked you

sometime before.

 

Rgds

Anand

 

--

Bhaskar

Sender:

 

Reply

Apr 26, 2007 21:34

Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

Dear Members,

 

I request all the Members reading such posts that You would

be reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own risk

and consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is not reposnible

in any manner for the results obtained thereof.

 

Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.

You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any astrologer

approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id or otherwise,for

Consultations with any commercial undertone alongwith.

 

Personal note regarding mantras-

I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta

(Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have to be

complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the scriptures. No

doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving results, but a single mistake

can be dangerous, including pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are

best done under personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these.

Any mantra which contain the words " Swaha " or " Phat " , at ending of the Mantra.

I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any personal presence

of a well versed Priest in company.

I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give effects, but

are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous at all, I should say.,

with no side effects or

any contrary re-actions.

 

Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be posted here,

but does not mean that we confirm what all have been written or mentioned

therein.

 

I also request the members not to put their websites for display with their

mails, and this opportunity to display wares or goods/products/services is given

on the last day of each month,when You can have a show case of all You are

offering, under Moderation.

 

Best Wishes,

Bhaskar.

Moderator.

 

 

, " rohitjivani " <rohitjivani wrote:

>

> Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

> a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands

> of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

> proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

> offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

> much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

> hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

>

> The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

> but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u

> all....

>

> Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

> you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

> karyasiddhi...

>

> to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

> white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

> chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

> sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

>

> AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

>

> need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

> particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

> pocket....

>

> the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

>

> god bless

>

> rohit jivani

>

 

 

 

 

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Hello Bhaskar Ji, Thanks for ur advice, We will follow but I have a question that u didnt replied mine mail about a query regarding my career aspect !! Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Members, I request all the Members reading such posts that You wouldbe reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own riskand consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is not reposnible in

any manner for the results obtained thereof. Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any astrologer approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id or otherwise,for Consultations with any commercial undertone alongwith. Personal note regarding mantras-I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta(Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have to be complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the scriptures. No doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving results, but a single mistake can be dangerous, including pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are best done under personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these. Any mantra which contain the words "Swaha" or "Phat", at ending of the Mantra.I

request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any personal presence of a well versed Priest in company.I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give effects, but are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous at all, I should say., with no side effects or any contrary re-actions. Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be posted here, but does not mean that we confirm what all have been written or mentioned therein. I also request the members not to put their websites for display with their mails, and this opportunity to display wares or goods/products/services is given on the last day of each month,when You can have a show case of all You are offering, under Moderation. Best Wishes,Bhaskar.Moderator. --- In

, "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani wrote:>> Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote> a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands> of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with> proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras> offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so> much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is> hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me> but i got thousands results...and when i found that> its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u> all....> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with> you, it is use to get success in interview or for special>

karyasiddhi...> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on> white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of> chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a> sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or> particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in> pocket....> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result> > god bless> > rohit jivani>

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Hello Vermaji,

 

Its not possible for me physically to reply to all mails appearing

here, because I

am also attending to Queries from other Forums, where too I have been

attached to, prior to creation of this Forum, and my emotions

too are attached there also.

Apart from this if I start replying to all help queries here, then

the other astrologers working here would not get a chance to show

their skills, and they too have to be given a chance.

Plus I have my daily activities for living too, to mantain

my monthly expenses, so time is short on hand.

Btw please let me have Your message Number of Query, and let me see.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, Rajkrishna Verma

<rajkrishna_rajkrishna wrote:

>

> Hello Bhaskar Ji,

> Thanks for ur advice, We will follow but I have a question that u

didnt replied mine mail about a query regarding my career aspect !!

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I request all the Members reading such posts that You would

> be reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own risk

> and consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is

not reposnible in any manner for the results obtained thereof.

> Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.

> You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any

astrologer approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id

or otherwise,for Consultations with any commercial undertone

alongwith.

> Personal note regarding mantras-

> I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta

> (Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have

to be complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the

scriptures. No doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving

results, but a single mistake can be dangerous, including

pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are best done under

personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these. Any

mantra which contain the words " Swaha " or " Phat " , at ending of the

Mantra.

> I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any

personal presence of a well versed Priest in company.

> I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give

effects, but are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous

at all, I should say., with no side effects or

> any contrary re-actions.

> Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to

be posted here, but does not mean that we confirm what all have been

written or mentioned therein.

> I also request the members not to put their websites for display

with their mails, and this opportunity to display wares or

goods/products/services is given on the last day of each month,when

You can have a show case of all You are offering, under Moderation.

> Best Wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> Moderator.

>

> , " rohitjivani " <rohitjivani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

> > a practically success mantra before this post...there are

thousands

> > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

> > proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

> > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

> > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

> > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> >

> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

> > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic

towards u

> > all....

> >

> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

> > you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

> > karyasiddhi...

> >

> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

> > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

> > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

> > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

> >

> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

> >

> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

> > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

> > pocket....

> >

> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

> >

> > god bless

> >

> > rohit jivani

> >

 

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Hell Bhsakr Ji, Thanks for ur reply , but I lost the query number or message, since I asked it one month ago (when I joined the grp) and from that time I m waiting :) So Its long time and i had deleted it from my sent folder. But now i will send it again to with mine horoscope , so plz tell me when i can send u? I can wait still, and I know everyone has own time schedule and a lot of things!! Thats why I msg after one month!!Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Hello Vermaji,Its not possible for me physically to reply to all mails appearing here, because Iam also attending to Queries from other Forums, where too I have been attached to, prior to creation of this Forum, and my emotionstoo are attached there also.Apart from this if I start replying to all help queries here, then the other astrologers working here would not get a chance to show their skills, and they too have to be given a chance.Plus I have my daily activities for living too, to mantainmy monthly expenses, so time is short on hand.Btw please let me have Your message Number of Query, and let me see.best wishes,Bhaskar. , Rajkrishna Verma <rajkrishna_rajkrishna wrote:>> Hello Bhaskar Ji,> Thanks for ur advice, We will follow but I have a question that u

didnt replied mine mail about a query regarding my career aspect !!> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Dear Members, > I request all the Members reading such posts that You would> be reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own risk> and consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is not reposnible in any manner for the results obtained thereof.> Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.> You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any astrologer approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id or otherwise,for Consultations with any commercial undertone alongwith.> Personal note regarding mantras-> I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta> (Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have to be complied with and purity and formalities as laid down

in the scriptures. No doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving results, but a single mistake can be dangerous, including pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are best done under personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these. Any mantra which contain the words "Swaha" or "Phat", at ending of the Mantra.> I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any personal presence of a well versed Priest in company.> I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give effects, but are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous at all, I should say., with no side effects or > any contrary re-actions.> Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be posted here, but does not mean that we confirm what all have been written or mentioned therein.> I also request the members not to put their websites for display with

their mails, and this opportunity to display wares or goods/products/services is given on the last day of each month,when You can have a show case of all You are offering, under Moderation.> Best Wishes,> Bhaskar.> Moderator.> > , "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani@> wrote:> >> > Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote> > a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands> > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with> > proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras> > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so> > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is> > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> >

> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me> > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u> > all....> > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with> > you, it is use to get success in interview or for special> > karyasiddhi...> > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on> > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of> > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a> > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant> > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA> > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or> > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep

it in> > pocket....> > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result> > > > god bless> > > > rohit jivani> >> > > > > > > > SHOUT IT OUT! Tell everyone, from anywhere, that you're online on Messenger>

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Dear Bhaskarji, Anandji, Read the thread with great interest. I also got me confused in the end. Actually, a few months back I casually referred to our family panditji that I have a financial squeaze and want to work hard to get out of it. He immmediately said, ' recite this mantra without break and the results would be there (he mentioned a time span of six months)'. The mantra is of ganeshji and is: "Oum ganesh hrinam chindayi varenayam hum namah phat" You mentioned that people reciting mantras ending with swaha or phat need to be careful. I have been reciting it every morning after my prayers for 108 times. You also say that reciting the wrong way may invite more problems. The last six months have gone by more or less peacefully....so how do i interpret this?? I recite on my own and take care that the pronounciation

is appropriate. But nothing dramtic has taken place either...unless I get a job I have been trying for the last six months (this might frucitfy in the next few weeks). Would appreciate your comments on this. Bhaskarji, can we expect more on the astrology course???? Its been more than a month since the last lesson. With warm regards BobbyAnand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote: Dear Sri Rohit,Also it should be “Phat” and not “Fat”.If read as “Fat” the meaning and usage of the mantra changes totally.RgdsAnand-- Sent: Apr 26, 2007 23:00Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRAOm Namah ShivayaDear Sri

Bhaskar, NamasteHope all well at your end. Its good to read your mail after a long time. I do agree with you on this. This is the main reason I normally don't suggest mahavidya mantras also. These are super fast results giving mantras but even a slight error can results in great sufferings, like sword hanging above the head.I would prefer more of vedic and jyotir linga mantras which goes to the root to solve the problems even if they take that extra time.BTW, did you get the contacts of the TM chapter at chennai which I asked you sometime before.RgdsAnand--BhaskarSender: To: Reply Sent: Apr 26, 2007 21:34 Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRADear Members, I request all the Members reading such posts that You wouldbe reciting the

Mantras mentioned therein at Your own riskand consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is not reposnible in any manner for the results obtained thereof.Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any astrologer approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id or otherwise,for Consultations with any commercial undertone alongwith.Personal note regarding mantras-I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta(Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have to be complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the scriptures. No doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving results, but a single mistake can be dangerous, including pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are best done under personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these. Any mantra which contain the words "Swaha" or

"Phat", at ending of the Mantra.I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any personal presence of a well versed Priest in company.I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give effects, but are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous at all, I should say., with no side effects or any contrary re-actions.Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be posted here, but does not mean that we confirm what all have been written or mentioned therein.I also request the members not to put their websites for display with their mails, and this opportunity to display wares or goods/products/services is given on the last day of each month,when You can have a show case of all You are offering, under Moderation.Best Wishes,Bhaskar.Moderator. , "rohitjivani" wrote:>> Recently my research is continue

on Shabar Mantra...I wrote> a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands> of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with> proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras> offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so> much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is> hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me> but i got thousands results...and when i found that> its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u> all....> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with> you, it is use to get success in interview or for special> karyasiddhi...> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on> white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

of> chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a> sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or> particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in> pocket....> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result> > god bless> > rohit jivani>Messages in this topic : (0) : Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic : Messages: : Change settings via the Web:

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i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if

moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write

here that we dont allow other astro post....

ty

 

, gopinatharao raja

<gopinatharao_r wrote:

>

> Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

> mantras.God bless you.

> G R Raja

> --- rohitjivani <rohitjivani wrote:

>

> > Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> > Mantra...I wrote

> > a practically success mantra before this

> > post...there are thousands

> > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> > mantra with

> > proper procedures the result will be excellent

> > ...shabar mantras

> > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> > mantras r not so

> > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> > strong and it is

> > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> >

> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> > read by me

> > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> > magic towards u

> > all....

> >

> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> > mantra with

> > you, it is use to get success in interview or for

> > special

> > karyasiddhi...

> >

> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> > against east on

> > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> > of

> > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> > then put a

> > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

> > the chant

> >

> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> > KARI FAT SWAHA

> >

> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> > interview or

> > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> > keep it in

> > pocket....

> >

> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> > result

> >

> > god bless

> >

> > rohit jivani

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear members,

The God knew before the begining of kaliyuga that the

mantras will be used for personal gains/enemity etc

,thus ALL TYPES OF MANTRAS were rendered " SHRAPPIT AND

KEELIT '.

Only a few know how to rid of shrapp and utkeelan and

they know that anybody doing this without proper

knowledge is walking on razor edge ,one little mistake

u wud go insane for ur life.

pls to all who read this REFRAIN FROM THIS VIDYA.

iT WILL DO MORE HARM THEN GOOD.

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// i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...//

Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with all ?I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case.

//...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....//

Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed. Just because I did notallow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails, does not give you a license to talk like this.And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and even target me orjudge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,because everyone has a right to give his opinion.I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow that in your house ?Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that.

I am also in process of removal of all religious mails infuture,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes, and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad person ? No. That is being practical.One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of affairs here. I dont care.

regards,Bhaskar.

, "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani wrote:>> i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....> ty> > , gopinatharao raja > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:> >> > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these> > mantras.God bless you.> > G R Raja> > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:> > > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar> > > Mantra...I wrote> > > a practically success mantra before this> > > post...there are thousands> > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the> > > mantra with> > > proper procedures the result will be excellent> > > ...shabar mantras> > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other> > > mantras r not so> > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is> > > strong and it is> > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > > > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only> > > read by me> > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real> > > magic towards u> > > all....> > > > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar> > > mantra with> > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for> > > special> > > karyasiddhi...> > > > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat> > > against east on> > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak> > > of> > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n> > > then put a> > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with> > > the chant> > > > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI> > > KARI FAT SWAHA> > > > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for> > > interview or> > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or> > > keep it in> > > pocket....> > > > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best> > > result> > > > > > god bless> > > > > > rohit jivani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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ok

this is ur area

i dont wnna stay or write here

u tell so much things for me without know the facts

u try to prove the u r the almighty in astrology and others

have no knowledge..

anyway

thank you

and

good bye

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> // i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...//

>

> Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that

he

> should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and

> teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a

surgeon or

> not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras

to the

> general public........

> You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because

> prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with

all ?

> I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects

within

> 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little

mistake

> and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be

turned

> towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case.

>

> //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's

post

> kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....//

>

> Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by

other

> astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an

hour

> to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing

> others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come

here

> with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your

websites

> for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes

unnoticed.

> Just because I did not

> allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular

mails,

> does not give you a license to talk like this.

> And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are

not for

> the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is

there any

> harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to

give Your

> personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?

> because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow

> other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails,

I have

> allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me

and

> even target me or

> judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my

image

> clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,

> because everyone has a right to give his opinion.

> I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.

> Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am

the

> owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory

or

> bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You

allow

> that in your house ?

> Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that.

>

> I am also in process of removal of all religious mails in

> future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like

the

> religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for

> permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he

wishes,

> and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper

record and

> anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular

astrological

> mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails

and

> again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I

have

> already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad

> person ? No.

> That is being practical.

> One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of

affairs

> here. I dont care.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " rohitjivani " <rohitjivani@>

> wrote:

> >

> > i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if

> > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly

write

> > here that we dont allow other astro post....

> > ty

> >

> > , gopinatharao raja

> > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

> > > mantras.God bless you.

> > > G R Raja

> > > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> > > > Mantra...I wrote

> > > > a practically success mantra before this

> > > > post...there are thousands

> > > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> > > > mantra with

> > > > proper procedures the result will be excellent

> > > > ...shabar mantras

> > > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> > > > mantras r not so

> > > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> > > > strong and it is

> > > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> > > >

> > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> > > > read by me

> > > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> > > > magic towards u

> > > > all....

> > > >

> > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> > > > mantra with

> > > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for

> > > > special

> > > > karyasiddhi...

> > > >

> > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> > > > against east on

> > > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> > > > of

> > > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> > > > then put a

> > > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

> > > > the chant

> > > >

> > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> > > > KARI FAT SWAHA

> > > >

> > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> > > > interview or

> > > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> > > > keep it in

> > > > pocket....

> > > >

> > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> > > > result

> > > >

> > > > god bless

> > > >

> > > > rohit jivani

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hello Bhaskar ji, U r too right and everyone has right to said its opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it throught this grp. I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution! Third one u said about religious mails then here I m little bit against u, as u said to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i think but last decesion is urs) Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!! Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: // i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...// Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because prbably You may be knowing how to use

them, but is that so with all ?I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case. //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....// Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed. Just because I

did notallow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails, does not give you a license to talk like this.And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and even target me orjudge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,because everyone has a right to give his opinion.I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the owner. Would You allow anyone

to come and smoke in your territory or bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow that in your house ?Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that. I am also in process of removal of all religious mails infuture,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes, and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad person ? No. That is being practical.One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of

affairs here. I dont care. regards,Bhaskar. , "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani wrote:>> i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....> ty> > , gopinatharao raja > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:> >> > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these> > mantras.God bless you.> > G R Raja> > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:> > > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar> > > Mantra...I wrote> > > a practically success mantra

before this> > > post...there are thousands> > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the> > > mantra with> > > proper procedures the result will be excellent> > > ...shabar mantras> > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other> > > mantras r not so> > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is> > > strong and it is> > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > > > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only> > > read by me> > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real> > > magic towards u> > > all....> > > > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar> > > mantra with> > > you, it is

use to get success in interview or for> > > special> > > karyasiddhi...> > > > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat> > > against east on> > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak> > > of> > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n> > > then put a> > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with> > > the chant> > > > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI> > > KARI FAT SWAHA> > > > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for> > > interview or> > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or> > > keep it in> > > pocket....> > > > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best> > >

result> > > > > > god bless> > > > > > rohit jivani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Hello Rohit JI, I request u ,please dont take Bhaskar ji's mail as bad for u and I personaly request u dont leave the grp!! Bhsakar ji is right and u also, and both have good knowledge so , and both of u want to spread ur knowledge without taking any cost, so please again i request dont leave grp!! Thanks and Regards Rajkrishna verma rohitjivani <rohitjivani wrote: okthis is ur areai dont wnna stay or write hereu

tell so much things for me without know the factsu try to prove the u r the almighty in astrology and others have no knowledge..anyway thank you and good bye , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > // i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice> > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...//> > Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he> should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and> teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or> not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the> general public........> You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because> prbably You may be knowing how

to use them, but is that so with all ?> I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within> 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake> and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned> towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case.> > //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post> kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....//> > Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other> astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour> to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing> others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here> with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites> for commercial reasons. Do not

think that this aspect goes unnoticed.> Just because I did not> allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails,> does not give you a license to talk like this.> And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for> the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any> harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your> personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?> because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow> other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have> allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and> even target me or> judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image> clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,> because everyone has a right to give

his opinion.> I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.> Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the> owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or> bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow> that in your house ?> Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that.> > I am also in process of removal of all religious mails in> future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the> religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for> permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes,> and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and> anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological> mails, because the rest will not understand these religious

mails and> again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have> already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad> person ? No.> That is being practical.> One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of affairs> here. I dont care.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani@>> wrote:> >> > i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice> > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if> > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write> > here that we dont allow other astro post....> > ty> >> > , gopinatharao raja> > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:> > >> > > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these> > > mantras.God bless you.> > > G R Raja> > > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:> > >> > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar> > > > Mantra...I wrote> > > > a practically success mantra before this> > > > post...there are thousands> > > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the> > > > mantra with> > > > proper procedures the result will be excellent> > > > ...shabar mantras> > > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other> > > > mantras r not so> > > > much effective in kaliyuga as the

grip of rahu is> > > > strong and it is> > > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > > >> > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only> > > > read by me> > > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real> > > > magic towards u> > > > all....> > > >> > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar> > > > mantra with> > > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for> > > > special> > > > karyasiddhi...> > > >> > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat> > > > against east on> > > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak> > > >

of> > > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n> > > > then put a> > > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with> > > > the chant> > > >> > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI> > > > KARI FAT SWAHA> > > >> > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for> > > > interview or> > > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or> > > > keep it in> > > > pocket....> > > >> > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best> > > > result> > > >> > > > god bless> > > >> > > > rohit jivani> > > >> > >> > >> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >> >>

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Dear Rohitjivani,

 

I think you have misunderstood Bhaskarji's message. I believe what he is trying to say is that such mantras should not be practised without getting the proper guidance and following proper protocol, as such mantras just like medicine can also have serious side effects if not properly followed on prescription.

 

regards,

 

enigma

 

 

 

 

rohitjivani

 

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 3:18 AM

Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

 

 

 

 

i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if

moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write

here that we dont allow other astro post....

ty

 

, gopinatharao raja

<gopinatharao_r wrote:

>

> Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

> mantras.God bless you.

> G R Raja

> --- rohitjivani <rohitjivani wrote:

>

> > Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> > Mantra...I wrote

> > a practically success mantra before this

> > post...there are thousands

> > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> > mantra with

> > proper procedures the result will be excellent

> > ...shabar mantras

> > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> > mantras r not so

> > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> > strong and it is

> > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> >

> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> > read by me

> > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> > magic towards u

> > all....

> >

> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> > mantra with

> > you, it is use to get success in interview or for

> > special

> > karyasiddhi...

> >

> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> > against east on

> > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> > of

> > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> > then put a

> > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

> > the chant

> >

> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> > KARI FAT SWAHA

> >

> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> > interview or

> > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> > keep it in

> > pocket....

> >

> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> > result

> >

> > god bless

> >

> > rohit jivani

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think everybody is overreacting. All cigarrette packets have warning, yet people choose to poison themselves on daily basis. Bhaskarji, I believe as moderator of the group you need to exercise a bit more restraint. In this age of electronics communications anyone can be/become anybody. In such cases, I truly believe in U.S. legal system (idea) of "innocent until proven guilty". In an age where credentials can be bought or manufactured (I just saw on the news the other day of being able to get degree certificate from top U.S and Canadian universities), the proof is not in the pudding but in the eating.

 

//In this case we do not even know whether You are

a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these

Mantras to the general public........//

 

If basic trust is not maintained then only anarchy, chaos and terrorism will rule.

 

regards,

 

enigma

 

 

 

 

rajkrishna_rajkrishna

 

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:14 AM

Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Bhaskar ji,

U r too right and everyone has right to said its opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it throught this grp.

I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution!

Third one u said about religious mails then here I m little bit against u, as u said to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i think but last decesion is urs)

 

Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!!

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

// i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...//

Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........

You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because prbably You may be knowing how to use

them, but is that so with all ?

I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case.

//...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....//

Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed. Just because I

did not

allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails, does not give you a license to talk like this.

And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?

because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and even target me or

judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,

because everyone has a right to give his opinion.

I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.

Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the owner. Would You allow anyone

to come and smoke in your territory or bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow that in your house ?

Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that.

I am also in process of removal of all religious mails in

future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes, and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad person ? No.

That is being practical.

One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of

affairs here. I dont care.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani wrote:

>

> i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if

> moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write

> here that we dont allow other astro post....

> ty

>

> , gopinatharao raja

> gopinatharao_r@ wrote:

> >

> > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

> > mantras.God bless you.

> > G R Raja

> > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:

> >

> > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> > > Mantra...I wrote

> > > a practically success mantra

before this

> > > post...there are thousands

> > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> > > mantra with

> > > proper procedures the result will be excellent

> > > ...shabar mantras

> > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> > > mantras r not so

> > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> > > strong and it is

> > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> > >

> > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> > > read by me

> > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> > > magic towards u

> > > all....

> > >

> > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> > > mantra with

> > > you, it is

use to get success in interview or for

> > > special

> > > karyasiddhi...

> > >

> > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> > > against east on

> > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> > > of

> > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> > > then put a

> > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

> > > the chant

> > >

> > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> > > KARI FAT SWAHA

> > >

> > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> > > interview or

> > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> > > keep it in

> > > pocket....

> > >

> > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> > >

result

> > >

> > > god bless

> > >

> > > rohit jivani

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Enigma ,

How do You know that all the trust has not long been lost due to repeated reading many mails which displayed only products and nothing else.from the same gentleman ? How would You know since You have not read them since You are not the Moderator ? How would You know that only recently he has started producing some mails which try to shed some light on Mantras. After my request ????

I will just make You aware-

I have deleted at least 12 Messages from this gentleman,in last 15 days,and not allowed them to come on this Forum, for the simple reason that they were all Sales mails completely, from beginning to end ie.from start to finish and inviting people to come on the website and take the services offered etc.I also requested the author through Chat message that we allow this only on the last day of the month. Then this gentleman changed his stance and mixed the same with these topics. Do You know this ?

This is not a place certainly under my Presence to play games with gullible Members , and make them easy prospects for ........ I have seen many Indians doing this in name of Yoga, Transcendantal Meditation and Astrology .And the foreigners fall easy prey for such tactful ploys thinking that they are going to get some secrets from the Vedic origins which would create miracles in their life and turn them more in favour of the Almighty ..........because India has long been the origin of occult and Mystery and when such Mails are sent they

feel that here is something different, whereas for your information such mantras are holding very elaborate Rituals alongwith and many conditions to be adhered to with few pre-requisites.

 

I know this as the Moderator what has transpired behind the screen. You just saw what I did. You did not see what i could have done or what I was supposed to do.

Terrorism means banning and not requesting all the time. I would consider myself as a weak Moderator if there was a scale to measure. There is no trust, but trust of not trying to commercialise and actually giving substance to the person availing, is what I

would appreciate even if one is commercialised. That is acceptable. But not straightaway calling people to the counter to purchase goods about which there is a question Mark !!! Since I have seen the true face of the author many times in his mails, which have not been allowed, You are not aware, but I am.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, enigmacmpr wrote:>> I think everybody is overreacting. All cigarrette packets have warning, yet people choose to poison themselves on daily basis. Bhaskarji, I believe as moderator of the group you need to exercise a bit more restraint. In this age of electronics communications anyone can be/become anybody. In such cases, I truly believe in U.S. legal system (idea) of "innocent until proven guilty". In an age where credentials can be bought or manufactured (I just saw on the news the other day of being able to get degree certificate from top U.S and Canadian universities), the proof is not in the pudding but in the eating. > > //In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........//> > If basic trust is not maintained then only anarchy, chaos and terrorism will rule. > > regards,> > enigma> > > rajkrishna_rajkrishna > Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:14 AM> Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA> > Hello Bhaskar ji, U r too right and everyone has right to said its opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it throught this grp. I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution! Third one u said about religious mails then here I m little bit against u, as u said to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i think but last decesion is urs)> Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!! > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: // i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...// Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........> You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with all ?> I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case. //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....// Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed. Just because I did not> allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails, does not give you a license to talk like this.> And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?> because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and even target me or> judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,> because everyone has a right to give his opinion.> I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.> Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow that in your house ?> Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that. I am also in process of removal of all religious mails in> future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes, and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad person ? No. > That is being practical.> One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of affairs here. I dont care. regards,> Bhaskar. > , "rohitjivani" rohitjivani@ wrote:> >> > i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if > > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > > here that we dont allow other astro post....> > ty> > > > , gopinatharao raja > > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:> > >> > > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these> > > mantras.God bless you.> > > G R Raja> > > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:> > > > > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar> > > > Mantra...I wrote> > > > a practically success mantra before this> > > > post...there are thousands> > > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the> > > > mantra with> > > > proper procedures the result will be excellent> > > > ...shabar mantras> > > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other> > > > mantras r not so> > > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is> > > > strong and it is> > > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > > > > > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only> > > > read by me> > > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real> > > > magic towards u> > > > all....> > > > > > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar> > > > mantra with> > > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for> > > > special> > > > karyasiddhi...> > > > > > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat> > > > against east on> > > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak> > > > of> > > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n> > > > then put a> > > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with> > > > the chant> > > > > > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI> > > > KARI FAT SWAHA> > > > > > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for> > > > interview or> > > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or> > > > keep it in> > > > pocket....> > > > > > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best> > > > result> > > > > > > > god bless> > > > > > > > rohit jivani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > SHOUT IT OUT! 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Dear Enigma,

If a Person is really interested in helping people with knowledge of Mantras and like, he would not get angered by one persons opinion but continue to keep sending such mails regardless of few members comments. But he immediately decided to leave the Forum when i expressed my unfacvour to these mantras. Why did he want to leave the Forum ?

For the simple reason that i did not allow him to display his website on his last mail which was moderated minus His website. So Now You should understand. He is not here for helping, but rather just trying to sell.

As soon as he understood that i will not allow websites to be displayed ,he was no more interested to be here but wants to leave ? Why ? Its a kids puzzle to figure out.

On the contrary he should have mantained restraint till the last day of the month, which day i do allow everyone to sell his wares/services/products etc. as mentioned on the Home Page.

You have made me sad by relating me to terrorists. I have always trusted everyone to be good, but they misuse that.

I had requested so may times to this gentleman and others, through the List too, that please do not try to make this a Market Place. And I do this AFTER each such Mail is ALLOWED TO COME HERE.

Hope You understand me and be more considerate towards judging me.

Bhaskar.

 

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Enigma ,> > How do You know that all the trust has not long been lost due to> repeated reading many mails which displayed only products and nothing> else.from the same gentleman ? How would You know since You have not> read them since You are not the Moderator ? How would You know that only> recently he has started producing some mails which try to shed some> light on Mantras. After my request ????> > I will just make You aware-> > I have deleted at least 12 Messages from this gentleman,in last 15> days,and not allowed them to come on this Forum, for the simple reason> that they were all Sales mails completely, from beginning to end ie.from> start to finish and inviting people to come on the website and take the> services offered etc.I also requested the author through Chat message> that we allow this only on the last day of the month. Then this> gentleman changed his stance and mixed the same with these topics. Do> You know this ?> This is not a place certainly under my Presence to play games with> gullible Members , and make them easy prospects for ........ I have seen> many Indians doing this in name of Yoga, Transcendantal Meditation and> Astrology .And the foreigners fall easy prey for such tactful ploys> thinking that they are going to get some secrets from the Vedic origins> which would create miracles in their life and turn them more in favour> of the Almighty ..........because India has long been the origin of> occult and Mystery and when such Mails are sent they feel that here is> something different, whereas for your information such mantras are> holding very elaborate Rituals alongwith and many conditions to be> adhered to with few pre-requisites. I know this as the Moderator what> has transpired behind the screen. You just saw what I did. You did not> see what i could have done or what I was supposed to do. Terrorism means> banning and not requesting all the time. I would consider myself as a> weak Moderator if there was a scale to measure. There is no trust, but> trust of not trying to commercialise and actually giving substance to> the person availing, is what I would appreciate even if one is> commercialised. That is acceptable. But not straightaway calling people> to the counter to purchase goods about which there is a question Mark> !!! Since I have seen the true face of the author many times in his> mails, which have not been allowed, You are not aware, but I am. > regards, Bhaskar.> > > > > > , enigmacmpr@ wrote:> >> > I think everybody is overreacting. All cigarrette packets have> warning, yet people choose to poison themselves on daily basis.> Bhaskarji, I believe as moderator of the group you need to exercise a> bit more restraint. In this age of electronics communications anyone can> be/become anybody. In such cases, I truly believe in U.S. legal system> (idea) of "innocent until proven guilty". In an age where credentials> can be bought or manufactured (I just saw on the news the other day of> being able to get degree certificate from top U.S and Canadian> universities), the proof is not in the pudding but in the eating.> >> > //In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or> not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the> general public........//> >> > If basic trust is not maintained then only anarchy, chaos and> terrorism will rule.> >> > regards,> >> > enigma> >> > > > rajkrishna_rajkrishna@> > > > Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:14 AM> > Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR> MANTRA> >> > Hello Bhaskar ji, U r too right and everyone has right to said its> opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really> need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking> and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it> throught this grp. I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it> their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m> also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution! Third one u> said about religious mails then here I m little bit against u, as u said> to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails> without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i> think but last decesion is urs)> > Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!!> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: // i wrote this before that i m a> vedic astrologer n doing practice> > > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...// Because a> Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand> his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this> case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether> you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general> public........> > You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because> prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with all ?> > I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects> within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little> mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be> turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case.> //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post> kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....// Kind man> just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other> astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour> to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing> others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here> with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites> for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed.> Just because I did not> > allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails,> does not give you a license to talk like this.> > And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not> for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there> any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give> Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?> > because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow> other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have> allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and> even target me or> > judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image> clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,> > because everyone has a right to give his opinion.> > I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.> > Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the> owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or> bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow> that in your house ?> > Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that. I> am also in process of removal of all religious mails in> > future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the> religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for> permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes,> and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and> anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological> mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and> again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have> already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad> person ? No.> > That is being practical.> > One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of> affairs here. I dont care. regards,> > Bhaskar.> > , "rohitjivani" rohitjivani@> wrote:> > >> > > i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice> > > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if> > > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write> > > here that we dont allow other astro post....> > > ty> > >> > > , gopinatharao raja> > > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these> > > > mantras.God bless you.> > > > G R Raja> > > > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar> > > > > Mantra...I wrote> > > > > a practically success mantra before this> > > > > post...there are thousands> > > > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the> > > > > mantra with> > > > > proper procedures the result will be excellent> > > > > ...shabar mantras> > > > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other> > > > > mantras r not so> > > > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is> > > > > strong and it is> > > > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > > > >> > > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only> > > > > read by me> > > > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > > > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real> > > > > magic towards u> > > > > all....> > > > >> > > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar> > > > > mantra with> > > > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for> > > > > special> > > > > karyasiddhi...> > > > >> > > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat> > > > > against east on> > > > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak> > > > > of> > > > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n> > > > > then put a> > > > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with> > > > > the chant> > > > >> > > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI> > > > > KARI FAT SWAHA> > > > >> > > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for> > > > > interview or> > > > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or> > > > > keep it in> > > > > pocket....> > > > >> > > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best> > > > > result> > > > >> > > > > god bless> > > > >> > > > > rohit jivani> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > SHOUT IT OUT! 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translation of objects in english available, mantra is fine!

 

krishna <krishnaastro2003 wrote: Recently my research is

continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

a practically success mantra before this post...there are thousands

of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

 

The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

but i got thousands results...and when i found that

its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic towards u

all....

 

Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

karyasiddhi...

 

to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

 

AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

 

need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

pocket....

 

the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

 

god bless

 

rohit jivani

astroprayer group

www.astroprayer.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Enigma, Just because things aren’t visible or apparent from the outside, doesn’t mean they aren’t there. You know, I have this problem with my mailbox. It gets filled with advertisement leaflets and junk. One day it may happen that I put my phone bill to the paper recycle bin before I pay for it. And then they’ll cut my phone line. Bhaskar Ji, has the care to dispose everything so clean, nice and neat for us. He takes the trouble to filter everything before it gets on board. I wished I had someone at home who does that for me. Well, maybe within a few years I’ll have my personal secretary. But, jokes apart, You talk about ‘basic trust’, how about exercising this ‘basic trust’ You talk about with Bhaskar Ji’s judgement on this? How about that,

Dear? Some people come up with these Panaceas without at least warning in small letters about dangerous side effects. Just like regular medication if you don’t take it as prescribed it can kill you. I don’t know about dangers of these mantras and right now I’m not interested. But I don’t like to mess with things I don’t know about and recite words I don’t understand. This pudding is an ‘enigma’ to me and at least until I know its ingredients I don’t want to get poisoned with. Someone else can have itJ. I hope to see you post more often. Best regards, Beatriz enigmacmpr wrote: I think everybody is overreacting. All

cigarrette packets have warning, yet people choose to poison themselves on daily basis. Bhaskarji, I believe as moderator of the group you need to exercise a bit more restraint. In this age of electronics communications anyone can be/become anybody. In such cases, I truly believe in U.S. legal system (idea) of "innocent until proven guilty". In an age where credentials can be bought or manufactured (I just saw on the news the other day of being able to get degree certificate from top U.S and Canadian universities), the proof is not in the pudding but in the eating. //In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........//If basic trust is not maintained then only anarchy, chaos and terrorism will rule. regards,enigma rajkrishna_rajkrishna (AT) (DOT) co.inTo: Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:14 AMRe: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA Hello Bhaskar ji, U r too right and everyone has right to said its opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it throught this grp. I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution! Third one u said about religious mails then here I m little

bit against u, as u said to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i think but last decesion is urs) Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!! Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: // i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...// Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........You may not have

had bad affects from using these Mantras because prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with all ?I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case. //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....// Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your

websites for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed. Just because I did notallow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails, does not give you a license to talk like this.And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and even target me orjudge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,because everyone has a right to give his opinion.I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.Thats

where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow that in your house ?Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that. I am also in process of removal of all religious mails infuture,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes, and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad person ? No.

That is being practical.One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of affairs here. I dont care. regards,Bhaskar. , "rohitjivani" <rohitjivani wrote:>> i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....> ty> > , gopinatharao raja > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:> >> > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these> > mantras.God bless you.> > G R Raja> > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:> > > > > Recently my research is continue

on Shabar> > > Mantra...I wrote> > > a practically success mantra before this> > > post...there are thousands> > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the> > > mantra with> > > proper procedures the result will be excellent> > > ...shabar mantras> > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other> > > mantras r not so> > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is> > > strong and it is> > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....> > > > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only> > > read by me> > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that> > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real> > > magic towards u> > > all....> > > > > > Today I want

to share a very effective shabar> > > mantra with> > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for> > > special> > > karyasiddhi...> > > > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat> > > against east on> > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak> > > of> > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n> > > then put a> > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with> > > the chant> > > > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI> > > KARI FAT SWAHA> > > > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for> > > interview or> > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or> > > keep it in> > > pocket....> > > >

> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best> > > result> > > > > > god bless> > > > > > rohit jivani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> SHOUT IT OUT! Tell everyone, from anywhere, that you're online on Messenger Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

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Dear Bhaskarji,

 

Thank you for enlightening me. In light of this information, repeated transgressions have to be addressed. One should obey the laws that have been laid out instead of trying to circumvent the system.

 

regards,

 

enigma

 

 

 

 

bhaskar_jyotish

 

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 3:02 PM

Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Enigma ,

How do You know that all the trust has not long been lost due to repeated reading many mails which displayed only products and nothing else.from the same gentleman ? How would You know since You have not read them since You are not the Moderator ? How would You know that only recently he has started producing some mails which try to shed some light on Mantras. After my request ????

I will just make You aware-

I have deleted at least 12 Messages from this gentleman,in last 15 days,and not allowed them to come on this Forum, for the simple reason that they were all Sales mails completely, from beginning to end ie.from start to finish and inviting people to come on the website and take the services offered etc.I also requested the author through Chat message that we allow this only on the last day of the month. Then this gentleman changed his stance and mixed the same with these topics. Do You know this ?

This is not a place certainly under my Presence to play games with gullible Members , and make them easy prospects for ........ I have seen many Indians doing this in name of Yoga, Transcendantal Meditation and Astrology .And the foreigners fall easy prey for such tactful ploys thinking that they are going to get some secrets from the Vedic origins which would create miracles in their life and turn them more in favour of the Almighty ..........because India has long been the origin of occult and Mystery and when such Mails are sent they

feel that here is something different, whereas for your information such mantras are holding very elaborate Rituals alongwith and many conditions to be adhered to with few pre-requisites.

 

I know this as the Moderator what has transpired behind the screen. You just saw what I did. You did not see what i could have done or what I was supposed to do.

Terrorism means banning and not requesting all the time. I would consider myself as a weak Moderator if there was a scale to measure. There is no trust, but trust of not trying to commercialise and actually giving substance to the person availing, is what I

would appreciate even if one is commercialised. That is acceptable. But not straightaway calling people to the counter to purchase goods about which there is a question Mark !!! Since I have seen the true face of the author many times in his mails, which have not been allowed, You are not aware, but I am.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, enigmacmpr wrote:

>

> I think everybody is overreacting. All cigarrette packets have warning, yet people choose to poison themselves on daily basis. Bhaskarji, I believe as moderator of the group you need to exercise a bit more restraint. In this age of electronics communications anyone can be/become anybody. In such cases, I truly believe in U.S. legal system (idea) of "innocent until proven guilty". In an age where credentials can be bought or manufactured (I just saw on the news the other day of being able to get degree certificate from top U.S and Canadian universities), the proof is not in the pudding but in the eating.

>

> //In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........//

>

> If basic trust is not maintained then only anarchy, chaos and terrorism will rule.

>

> regards,

>

> enigma

>

>

> rajkrishna_rajkrishna

>

> Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:14 AM

> Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

>

> Hello Bhaskar ji, U r too right and everyone has right to said its opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it throught this grp. I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution! Third one u said about religious mails then here I m little bit against u, as u said to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i think but!

last de

cesion is urs)

> Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!!

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: // i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...// Because a Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general public........

> You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with all ?

> I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case. //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....// Kind man just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed. Just because I did not

> allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails, does not give you a license to talk like this.

> And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?

> because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do n!

ot allow

other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and even target me or

> judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,

> because everyone has a right to give his opinion.

> I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.

> Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow that in your house ?

> Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that. I am also in process of removal of all religious mails in

> future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes, and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad person ? No.

> That is being practical.

> One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of affairs here. I dont care. regards,

> Bhaskar.

> , "rohitjivani" rohitjivani@ wrote:

> >

> > i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if

> > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write

> > here that we dont allow other astro post....

> > ty

> >

> > , gopinatharao raja

> & g

t; gopinatharao_r@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

> > > mantras.God bless you.

> > > G R Raja

> > > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> > > > Mantra...I wrote

> > > > a practically success mantra before this

> > > > post...there are thousands

> > > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> > > > mantra with

> > > > proper procedures the result will be excellent

> > > > ...shabar mantras

> > > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> > > > mantras r not so

> > > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> > > > strong and it is

> > > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> > > >

> > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> > > > read by me

> > > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> > > > magic towards u

> > > > all....

> > > >

> > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> > > > mantra with

> > > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for

> > > > special

> > > > karyasiddhi...

> > > >

> > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> > > > against east on

> > > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> > > > of

> > > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> > > > then put a

> > > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

& !

gt; >

> > the chant

> > > >

> > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> > > > KARI FAT SWAHA

> > > >

> > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> > > > interview or

> > > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> > > > keep it in

> > > > pocket....

> > > >

> > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> > > > result

> > > >

> > > > god bless

> > > >

> > > > rohit jivani

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Bhaskarji,

 

If you read my post, I have not compared you to a terrorist. My post was about maintaining trust. If we all take a Orwellian stance and act as "Big Brother" the world will be a bleaker place to live. I have seen more cheating/underhandednes/greed committed by our Indian brotherhood in the IT Boom where a lot more lives were affected. The fact that you have allowed this discussion, proves that you are not stifling discussion and are a believer in democracy.

 

regards,

 

enigma

 

 

 

 

bhaskar_jyotish

 

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 3:18 PM

Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR MANTRA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Enigma,

If a Person is really interested in helping people with knowledge of Mantras and like, he would not get angered by one persons opinion but continue to keep sending such mails regardless of few members comments. But he immediately decided to leave the Forum when i expressed my unfacvour to these mantras. Why did he want to leave the Forum ?

For the simple reason that i did not allow him to display his website on his last mail which was moderated minus His website. So Now You should understand. He is not here for helping, but rather just trying to sell.

As soon as he understood that i will not allow websites to be displayed ,he was no more interested to be here but wants to leave ? Why ? Its a kids puzzle to figure out.

On the contrary he should have mantained restraint till the last day of the month, which day i do allow everyone to sell his wares/services/products etc. as mentioned on the Home Page.

You have made me sad by relating me to terrorists. I have always trusted everyone to be good, but they misuse that.

I had requested so may times to this gentleman and others, through the List too, that please do not try to make this a Market Place. And I do this AFTER each such Mail is ALLOWED TO COME HERE.

Hope You understand me and be more considerate towards judging me.

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Enigma ,

>

> How do You know that all the trust has not long been lost due to

> repeated reading many mails which displayed only products and nothing

> else.from the same gentleman ? How would You know since You have not

> read them since You are not the Moderator ? How would You know that only

> recently he has started producing some mails which try to shed some

> light on Mantras. After my request ????

>

> I will just make You aware-

>

> I have deleted at least 12 Messages from this gentleman,in last 15

> days,and not allowed them to come on this Forum, for the simple reason

> that they were all Sales mails completely, from beginning to end ie.from

> start to finish and inviting people to come on the website and take the

> services offered etc.I also requested the author through Chat message

> that we allow this only on the last day of the month. Then this

> gentleman changed his stance and mixed the same with these topics. Do

> You know this ?

> This is not a place certainly under my Presence to play games with

> gullible Members , and make them easy prospects for ........ I have seen

> many Indians doing this in name of Yoga, Transcendantal Meditation and

> Astrology .And the foreigners fall easy prey for such tactful ploys

> thinking that they are going to get some secrets from the Vedic origins

> which would create miracles in their life and turn them more in favour

> of the Almighty ..........because India has long been the origin of

> occult and Mystery and when such Mails are sent they feel that here is

> something different, whereas for your information such mantras are

> holding very elaborate Rituals alongwith and many conditions to be

> adhered to with few pre-requisites. I know this as the Moderator what

> has transpired behind the screen. You just saw what I did. You did not

> see what i could have done or what I was supposed to do. Terrorism means

> banning and not requesting all the time. I would consider myself as a

> weak Moderator if there was a scale to measure. There is no trust, but

> trust of not trying to commercialise and actually giving substance to

> the person availing, is what I would appreciate even if one is

> commercialised. That is acceptable. But not straightaway calling people

> to the counter to purchase goods about which there is a question Mark

> !!! Since I have seen the true face of the author many times in his

> mails, which have not been allowed, You are not aware, but I am.

> regards, Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> , enigmacmpr@ wrote:

> >

> > I think everybody is overreacting. All cigarrette packets have

> warning, yet people choose to poison themselves on daily basis.

> Bhaskarji, I believe as moderator of the group you need to exercise a

> bit more restraint. In this age of electronics communications anyone can

> be/become anybody. In such cases, I truly believe in U.S. legal system

> (idea) of "innocent until proven guilty". In an age where credentials

> can be bought or manufactured (I just saw on the news the other day of

> being able to get degree certificate from top U.S and Canadian

> universities), the proof is not in the pudding but in the eating.

> >

> > //In this case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or

> not.,and whether you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the

> general public........//

> >

> > If basic trust is not maintained then only anarchy, chaos and

> terrorism will rule.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > enigma

> >

> >

> > rajkrishna_rajkrishna@

> >

> > Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:14 AM

> > Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR

> MANTRA

> >

> > Hello Bhaskar ji, U r too right and everyone has right to said its

> opinion but it should be in limits!! And commercialization is really

> need of everyone but here it is not needed , if the owner is not taking

> and allowing to take then , there is no need for others to do it

> throught this grp. I m also interested in "Mantars" and also believe it

> their power(yet not seen any miracle from Mantras but believe).And I m

> also in favour of that it should be taken with precaution! Third one u

> said about religious mails then here I m little bit against u, as u said

> to store them for later access, it is good!! But only one or two mails

> without any such commentment, can be published on grp ( so far as i

> think but last decesion is urs)

> > Hope I didnt hurted anyone!!!

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: // i wrote this before that i m a

> vedic astrologer n doing practice

> > > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...// Because a

> Surgeon cuts up bodies with a knife, does not mean that he should hand

> his knife to others without proper instructions and teachings.In this

> case we do not even know whether You are a surgeon or not.,and whether

> you are qualified to actually give these Mantras to the general

> public........

> > You may not have had bad affects from using these Mantras because

> prbably You may be knowing how to use them, but is that so with all ?

> > I personally have access to many such mantras which give effects

> within 10 minutes, but these are like small-big nuclear bombs, a little

> mistake and they will blast at the site itself or the direction could be

> turned towards us., so why to indulge in these in the first case.

> //...but if > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post

> kindly write > here that we dont allow other astro post....// Kind man

> just look around. Here most of the posts are done only by other

> astrologers and not by me. I have only spare time of only half an hour

> to one hour for my own self, so wheres the question of not allowing

> others. This is basically a Astrology Forum. But You people come here

> with spectacular attention grabbing mails, just to market your websites

> for commercial reasons. Do not think that this aspect goes unnoticed.

> Just because I did not

> > allow Your website to operate here on display on your regular mails,

> does not give you a license to talk like this.

> > And why cannot I give my personal opinion that these Mantras are not

> for the common lot but only for the experienced in this line ? Is there

> any harm in giving personal opinion ? Have You not been allowed to give

> Your personal opinion though it does not stand in my conformity ?

> > because I give my personal opinion does it mean that I do not allow

> other astrologers posts to come over here ? Check the past mails, I have

> allowed all mails where people have tried to slander and accuse me and

> even target me or

> > judge me wrongly. I could have easily removed them and kept my image

> clean. But I never do that. I allow such mails,

> > because everyone has a right to give his opinion.

> > I just dont want this List to become a Market place for selling.

> > Thats where I object. And why not ? This is my territory and I am the

> owner. Would You allow anyone to come and smoke in your territory or

> bring in bottles of liquor and give religious sermons ? Would You allow

> that in your house ?

> > Same way I have a responsibility and would like to adhere to that. I

> am also in process of removal of all religious mails in

> > future,because we have a comopolitan crowd here and I would like the

> religious mails to be recorded preciously in Folders and Files for

> permanent record, so that anyone could access them whenever he wishes,

> and also refer the past mails. That way we can have a proper record and

> anytime retrieval and also would not disturb the regular astrological

> mails, because the rest will not understand these religious mails and

> again they would stop visitng this Forum for the same reason. I have

> already received some complaints. Now does that mean that I am bad

> person ? No.

> > That is being practical.

> > One may think whatever he wishes. We have a democratic state of

> affairs here. I dont care. regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> > , "rohitjivani" rohitjivani@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > i wrote this before that i m a vedic astrologer n doing practice

> > > since years i never get bad results of shabar mantra...but if

> > > moderator dont like such posts or any astrologer's post kindly write

> > > here that we dont allow other astro post....

> > > ty

> > >

> > > , gopinatharao raja

> > > gopinatharao_r@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Very thanks for you,Please keep posting like these

> > > > mantras.God bless you.

> > > > G R Raja

> > > > --- rohitjivani rohitjivani@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Recently my research is continue on Shabar

> > > > > Mantra...I wrote

> > > > > a practically success mantra before this

> > > > > post...there are thousands

> > > > > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the

> > > > > mantra with

> > > > > proper procedures the result will be excellent

> > > > > ...shabar mantras

> > > > > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other

> > > > > mantras r not so

> > > > > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is

> > > > > strong and it is

> > > > > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> > > > >

> > > > > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only

> > > > > read by me

> > > > > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > > > > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real

> > > > > magic towards u

> > > > > all....

> > > > >

> > > > > Today I want to share a very effective shabar

> > > > > mantra with

> > > > > you, it is use to get success in interview or for

> > > > > special

> > > > > karyasiddhi...

> > > > >

> > > > > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat

> > > > > against east on

> > > > > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak

> > > > > of

> > > > > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n

> > > > > then put a

> > > > > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with

> > > > > the chant

> > > > >

> > > > > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI

> > > > > KARI FAT SWAHA

> > > > >

> > > > > need to recite for 1008 times before going for

> > > > > interview or

> > > > > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or

> > > > > keep it in

> > > > > pocket....

> > > > >

> > > > > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best

> > > > > result

> > > > >

> > > > > god bless

> > > > >

> > > > > rohit jivani

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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dear friends

 

much has been said about the mantras and their usages with various

people expressing their personal views and opinions.

 

let me allow you to put things in the right perspective from the

tenets of the mantra and tantra shastra as myself spent several years

in learning and using them.

 

shat prayogas or six types of usage of mantras, in which the native

influences others to his benefit, is prohibited for usage by ordinary

people. these six types of mantras invariably contain words like

shat, phat, vashat, swaha. even the master of mantra shastra is not

supposed to teach these usage mantras to his disciples.

 

each diety has various types of mantras with which one can get siddhi

of that mantra and invoke the grace of that diety. then to use that

siddhi for influencing others, these tailor made shat prayogas are

used for each diety mantra. those living in grihastha are advised not

to recite these mantras even if they belong to satvik dieties like

ganeshji etc.

 

the persons teaching these mantras as well as practicing or following

these mantras become loners in their lives and this may adversely

affect thier existing grihastha life. hence only lone people with

intentions of doing service to the society are advised to take up

these mantras.

 

as bhaskarji and kumarji said in previous mails, it is better if one

keeps away from these mantras altogether and not try to learn or use

even for curiosity.

 

following simple satvik poojas or japams (recital of gayatri,

panchakshari etc.) is apt for grihasthas.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji, Anandji,

>

> Read the thread with great interest. I also got me confused in

the end. Actually, a few months back I casually referred to our

family panditji that I have a financial squeaze and want to work hard

to get out of it. He immmediately said, ' recite this mantra without

break and the results would be there (he mentioned a time span of six

months)'.

>

> The mantra is of ganeshji and is:

> " Oum ganesh hrinam chindayi varenayam hum namah phat "

>

> You mentioned that people reciting mantras ending with swaha or

phat need to be careful. I have been reciting it every morning after

my prayers for 108 times.

>

> You also say that reciting the wrong way may invite more

problems. The last six months have gone by more or less

peacefully....so how do i interpret this?? I recite on my own and

take care that the pronounciation is appropriate. But nothing dramtic

has taken place either...unless I get a job I have been trying for

the last six months (this might frucitfy in the next few weeks).

> Would appreciate your comments on this.

>

> Bhaskarji, can we expect more on the astrology course???? Its

been more than a month since the last lesson.

>

> With warm regards

> Bobby

>

> Anand Ravi <anandravi2004 wrote:

>

> Dear Sri Rohit,

>

> Also it should be " Phat " and not " Fat " .

>

> If read as " Fat " the meaning and usage of the mantra changes

totally.

>

> Rgds

> Anand

> --

>

> Apr 26, 2007 23:00

> Re: Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR

MANTRA

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

> Dear Sri Bhaskar, Namaste

>

> Hope all well at your end. Its good to read your mail after a long

time. I do agree with you on this. This is the main reason I normally

don't suggest mahavidya mantras also. These are super fast results

giving mantras but even a slight error can results in great

sufferings, like sword hanging above the head.

>

> I would prefer more of vedic and jyotir linga mantras which goes to

the root to solve the problems even if they take that extra time.

>

> BTW, did you get the contacts of the TM chapter at chennai which I

asked you sometime before.

>

> Rgds

> Anand

>

> --

> Bhaskar

> Sender:

>

> Reply

> Apr 26, 2007 21:34

> Re: GET SUCCESS IN INTERVIEW BY SHABAR

MANTRA

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I request all the Members reading such posts that You would

> be reciting the Mantras mentioned therein at Your own risk

> and consequences and the Forum or List Owner of Jyotish_Ganga is

not reposnible in any manner for the results obtained thereof.

>

> Same with The Astrologers Predictions mentioned over here.

> You are also requested to inform the Owner/Moderator if any

astrologer approaches You Personally through mail on your personal id

or otherwise,for Consultations with any commercial undertone

alongwith.

>

> Personal note regarding mantras-

> I do not prefer Shabar or Tantric Mantras for the grihasta

> (Householders). They carry lots of conditions alongwith, which have

to be complied with and purity and formalities as laid down in the

scriptures. No doubt that they are very fast and speedy in gving

results, but a single mistake can be dangerous, including

pronounciation mistake while reciting. These are best done under

personal supervision of a Guru or Pandit, well versed in these. Any

mantra which contain the words " Swaha " or " Phat " , at ending of the

Mantra.

> I request all the Members to desist from reciting, without any

personal presence of a well versed Priest in company.

> I prefer to recite the Vedic Mantras which take longer time to give

effects, but are less dangerous if wrongly recited or not dangerous

at all, I should say., with no side effects or

> any contrary re-actions.

>

> Since we respect the freedom of Speech we allow all the mails to be

posted here, but does not mean that we confirm what all have been

written or mentioned therein.

>

> I also request the members not to put their websites for display

with their mails, and this opportunity to display wares or

goods/products/services is given on the last day of each month,when

You can have a show case of all You are offering, under Moderation.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> Moderator.

>

>

> , " rohitjivani " wrote:

> >

> > Recently my research is continue on Shabar Mantra...I wrote

> > a practically success mantra before this post...there are

thousands

> > of shabar mantras for various purpose if one do the mantra with

> > proper procedures the result will be excellent ...shabar mantras

> > offers 100% result even in kaliyuga while other mantras r not so

> > much effective in kaliyuga as the grip of rahu is strong and it is

> > hard to arrange proper procedures these days....

> >

> > The shabar mantras i m giving here are not only read by me

> > but i got thousands results...and when i found that

> > its really miraculas... i decided to spread the real magic

towards u

> > all....

> >

> > Today I want to share a very effective shabar mantra with

> > you, it is use to get success in interview or for special

> > karyasiddhi...

> >

> > to recite this shabar mantra one has to seat against east on

> > white cloth wearing yellow dress...and do the tilak of

> > chandan .....take chana daal n put it on a bajoth n then put a

> > sfatik mala on that n charge the sfatik mala with the chant

> >

> > AUM HRIM VAGVADINI BHAGVATI MAM KARYA SIDDHI KARI KARI FAT SWAHA

> >

> > need to recite for 1008 times before going for interview or

> > particular work and keep the sfatik mala in neck or keep it in

> > pocket....

> >

> > the prayoga is very very effective try it for best result

> >

> > god bless

> >

> > rohit jivani

> >

>

>

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