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Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on how to use

bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same as

rasi...would tht be right?

rgds Su

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Sheevaniji,

>

> I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> levels than their couterparts

> who do not use or study this chart.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

>

>

>

> , " sheevani147 " <sheevani147@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajeev ji,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you

mentioned,,

> >

> > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on events

> in

> > the person's life.

> >

> > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of

mars

> > mercury and moon.

> >

> > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in the

4th

> > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it is in

> > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)

> >

> > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,, Mercury

is

> > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> nakshatra

> > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> >

> > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)

placed

> in

> > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect)

Mars

> > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies.. therefore

> > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to

give

> > good results.

> >

> > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a moksha

> > house..

> >

> > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in

Dhanista

> > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken as

> > explained above)

> >

> > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL

and

> > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL

> and

> > shani 7and 8HL..

> >

> > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with

mars,

> > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of

> moon

> > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> >

> > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the group.

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > >

> > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > >

> > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been confusing

> for

> > me.

> > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer

> which

> > after

> > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > >

> > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > 11:20pm

> > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > >

> > >

> > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.

> > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would be

> > helpful.

> > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be more

> > effects of

> > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > >

> > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant effect?

> Can

> > various

> > > life incidents give some clues?

> > >

> > >

> > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.

> > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.

> > >

> > >

> > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and Saturn

> with

> > 3rd

> > > Dhristi.

> > > What is the effect.

> > >

> > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > >

> > >

> > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2

> > degree.

> > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > >

> > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does

this

> > breaks the

> > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > >

> > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.

> > > Your comment on this?

> > >

> > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many lord in

> 5th

> > house

> > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > >

> > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is usually

> subh.

> > What do

> > > you say for this case.

> > >

> > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation

sign.

> > What is

> > > the effect?

> > >

> > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign,

> what

> > is the

> > > effect?

> > >

> > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this

give.

> > >

> > >

> > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby

and

> > Moonga?

> > >

> > >

> > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence

> > stays in the

> > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.

> > >

> > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > >

> > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get some

> reply

> > from

> > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask

> again.

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > Rajeev

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Su,

Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit inJ.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and never actually had enough time to explore the wholesite, just looked at my own requirement and left the rest.

Books on Bhava Chalit

There are no particular books onBhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chartand Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthypadhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

A small example of the difference of results between Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury isin the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But ifin Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house, and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,onthe contrary the Native will always have outflow of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the nativewould be told by astrologers that he will have superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,because these astrologers do not go deep instudying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?Its vanished, and the native need notfeel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in theascendant and is been told by his family astrologer that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this caseknown as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet wouldbe in the air all his Life and would be waiting forthe Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,which would never happen, if the Mercury has shiftedto the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

4) Alternatively, if we take the first example inthe above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercuryin his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologerthat he will never rise above the ordinary, now neednot feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shiftedto the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

Now when you have read the above examples and readthe essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need nothave to search or buy any books, just applythese princoiples to every chart you encounter, and check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

rgrds,Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

 

 

 

 

, "illusive_2" <reality_v wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani> Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on how to use > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same as > rasi...would tht be right?> rgds Su> , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Sheevaniji,> > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,> > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but> > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You> > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.> > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional> > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly> > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive> > levels than their couterparts> > who do not use or study this chart.> > > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar> > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com> > > > > > > > , "sheevani147" <sheevani147@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,> > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you > mentioned,,> > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on events > > in > > > the person's life. > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of > mars > > > mercury and moon.> > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in the > 4th > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it is in > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)> > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,, Mercury > is > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in > > nakshatra > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)> > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)> placed > > in > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect) > Mars > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies.. therefore > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to > give > > > good results.> > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a moksha > > > house..> > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in > Dhanista > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken as > > > explained above)> > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL > and > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL > > and > > > shani 7and 8HL..> > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with > mars, > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of > > moon > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..> > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..> > > > > > warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > > > > > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the group.> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.> > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been confusing > > for > > > me.> > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer > > which > > > after> > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.> > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955> > > > 11:20pm> > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)> > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.> > > > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.> > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would be > > > helpful.> > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be more > > > effects of> > > > leo or cancer or mixed?> > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant effect? > > Can > > > various> > > > life incidents give some clues?> > > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.> > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.> > > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA> > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and Saturn > > with > > > 3rd> > > > Dhristi.> > > > What is the effect.> > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2 > > > degree.> > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.> > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does > this > > > breaks the> > > > auspiciousness of mars?> > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.> > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.> > > > Your comment on this?> > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many lord in > > 5th > > > house> > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.> > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is usually > > subh. > > > What do> > > > you say for this case.> > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation > sign. > > > What is> > > > the effect?> > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign, > > what > > > is the> > > > effect?> > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this > give.> > > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.> > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby > and > > > Moonga?> > > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence > > > stays in the> > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.> > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.> > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get some > > reply > > > from> > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask > > again.> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay> > > > Rajeev> > > >> > >> >>

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Bhasker JI,

 

Thanks for this useful information, please WRITE in detail about bhave chalit IF POSSIBLE.

 

Thanks with Regards

--- On Tue, 6/17/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: bhava chalit Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 7:57 PM

 

 

 

Dear Su,

Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit inJ.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and never actually had enough time to explore the wholesite, just looked at my own requirement and left the rest.

Books on Bhava Chalit

There are no particular books onBhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chartand Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthypadhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

A small example of the difference of results between Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury isin the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But ifin Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house, and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,onthe contrary the Native will always have outflow of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the nativewould be told by astrologers that he will have superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,because these astrologers do not go deep instudying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?Its vanished, and the native need notfeel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in theascendant and is been told by his family astrologer that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this caseknown as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet wouldbe in the air all his Life and would be waiting forthe Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,which would never happen, if the Mercury has shiftedto the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

4) Alternatively, if we take the first example inthe above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercuryin his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologerthat he will never rise above the ordinary, now neednot feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shiftedto the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

Now when you have read the above examples and readthe essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need nothave to search or buy any books, just applythese princoiples to every chart you encounter, and check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

rgrds,Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

 

 

 

 

, "illusive_2" <reality_v@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani> Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/ etc on how to use > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same as > rasi...would tht be right?> rgds Su> , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Sheevaniji,> > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,> > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but> > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You> > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.> > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional> > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly> > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive> > levels than their

couterparts> > who do not use or study this chart.> > > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar> > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com> > > > > > > > , "sheevani147" <sheevani147@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,> > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you > mentioned,,> > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on events > > in > > > the person's life. > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of > mars > > > mercury and moon.> > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in the >

4th > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it is in > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)> > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,, Mercury > is > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in > > nakshatra > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)> > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)> placed > > in > > > an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect) > Mars > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies.. therefore > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to > give > > > good results.> > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in

4th house, which is a moksha > > > house..> > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in > Dhanista > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken as > > > explained above)> > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL > and > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL > > and > > > shani 7and 8HL..> > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with > mars, > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of > > moon > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..> > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..> > > > > > warmest

regards> > > Sheevani> > > > > > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the group.> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.> > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been confusing > > for > > > me.> > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer > > which > > > after> > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.> > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955> > > > 11:20pm> > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)> > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.> >

> > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.> > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would be > > > helpful.> > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be more > > > effects of> > > > leo or cancer or mixed?> > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant effect? > > Can > > > various> > > > life incidents give some clues?> > > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.> > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.> > > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA> > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects

with 4th dhristi and Saturn > > with > > > 3rd> > > > Dhristi.> > > > What is the effect.> > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2 > > > degree.> > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.> > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does > this > > > breaks the> > > > auspiciousness of mars?> > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.> > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.> > > > Your comment on this?> > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects

of so many lord in > > 5th > > > house> > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.> > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is usually > > subh. > > > What do> > > > you say for this case.> > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation > sign. > > > What is> > > > the effect?> > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign, > > what > > > is the> > > > effect?> > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this > give.> > > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.> > > > What

would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby > and > > > Moonga?> > > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence > > > stays in the> > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.> > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.> > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get some > > reply > > > from> > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask > > again.> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay> > > > Rajeev> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear examples - it

was far more than what I expected!!

 

//On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> J.Hora ?//

 

If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu appears.

just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the item 'bhava

chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will be

replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by

clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

 

thank you again, Su

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Su,

>

> Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

>

> On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> the rest.

>

> Books on Bhava Chalit

>

> There are no particular books on

> Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

>

> Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

>

> A small example of the difference of results between

> Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

>

> 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> would be told by astrologers that he will have

> superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> because these astrologers do not go deep in

> studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

>

> 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> Its vanished, and the native need not

> feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

>

> 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

>

> 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

>

> Now when you have read the above examples and read

> the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> have to search or buy any books, just apply

> these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

>

> rgrds,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

>

>

>

>

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on how to use

> > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same

as

> > rasi...would tht be right?

> > rgds Su

> > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > >

> > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > levels than their couterparts

> > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sheevani147 "

<sheevani147@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you

> > mentioned,,

> > > >

> > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on

events

> > > in

> > > > the person's life.

> > > >

> > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of

> > mars

> > > > mercury and moon.

> > > >

> > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in

the

> > 4th

> > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it

is in

> > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)

> > > >

> > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,,

Mercury

> > is

> > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> > > nakshatra

> > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > >

> > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)

> > placed

> > > in

> > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect)

> > Mars

> > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies..

therefore

> > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to

> > give

> > > > good results.

> > > >

> > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a

moksha

> > > > house..

> > > >

> > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in

> > Dhanista

> > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken

as

> > > > explained above)

> > > >

> > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL

> > and

> > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and

12HL

> > > and

> > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > >

> > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with

> > mars,

> > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor

of

> > > moon

> > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > >

> > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > >

> > > > warmest regards

> > > > Sheevani

> > > >

> > > > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the

group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been

confusing

> > > for

> > > > me.

> > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant

cancer

> > > which

> > > > after

> > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > >

> > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.

> > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would

be

> > > > helpful.

> > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be

more

> > > > effects of

> > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant

effect?

> > > Can

> > > > various

> > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.

> > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was

running.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and

Saturn

> > > with

> > > > 3rd

> > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at

2

> > > > degree.

> > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does

> > this

> > > > breaks the

> > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > >

> > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.

> > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > >

> > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many lord

in

> > > 5th

> > > > house

> > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is

usually

> > > subh.

> > > > What do

> > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation

> > sign.

> > > > What is

> > > > > the effect?

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation

sign,

> > > what

> > > > is the

> > > > > effect?

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this

> > give.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby

> > and

> > > > Moonga?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods

presence

> > > > stays in the

> > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.

> > > > >

> > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > >

> > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get

some

> > > reply

> > > > from

> > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask

> > > again.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > Rajeev

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Su,

 

Wonderful.

( Sharing always makes one more learned

and I have learnt this, new from You)

I never knew that this option

existed,or never gave much mind to these options

whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

saved me lot of time, in future,

whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

time when my regular Licensed software is not

working, or away from my place.

 

Okay now you need to do more.

After clicking on Basics on Top.

next clicking on Houses below,the List

of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

click would again give you a Drop down menu.

Here you choose these 2 options as under.

 

1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

the start of the First House.

After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

and let me know whether it remains same,

as the Natal Chart,

or some planets change Houses.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

 

 

 

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear examples -

it

> was far more than what I expected!!

>

> //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > J.Hora ?//

>

> If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu

appears.

> just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the item 'bhava

> chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will be

> replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by

> clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

>

> thank you again, Su

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Su,

> >

> > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> >

> > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > the rest.

> >

> > Books on Bhava Chalit

> >

> > There are no particular books on

> > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> >

> > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> >

> > A small example of the difference of results between

> > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> >

> > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> >

> > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> >

> > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> >

> > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> >

> > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> >

> > rgrds,

> > Bhaskar.

> > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on how to

use

> > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the

same

> as

> > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > rgds Su

> > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > >

> > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar

> > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " sheevani147 "

> <sheevani147@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste.

> > > > >

> > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you

> > > mentioned,,

> > > > >

> > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on

> events

> > > > in

> > > > > the person's life.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects

of

> > > mars

> > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in

> the

> > > 4th

> > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it

> is in

> > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)

> > > > >

> > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,,

> Mercury

> > > is

> > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> > > > nakshatra

> > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)

> > > placed

> > > > in

> > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka

effect)

> > > Mars

> > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies..

> therefore

> > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable

to

> > > give

> > > > > good results.

> > > > >

> > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a

> moksha

> > > > > house..

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in

> > > Dhanista

> > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much

weaken

> as

> > > > > explained above)

> > > > >

> > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is

6HL

> > > and

> > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury

3and

> 12HL

> > > > and

> > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > >

> > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house,

with

> > > mars,

> > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the

depositor

> of

> > > > moon

> > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > >

> > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > Sheevani

> > > > >

> > > > > , RajeevM

<rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the

> group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been

> confusing

> > > > for

> > > > > me.

> > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant

> cancer

> > > > which

> > > > > after

> > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.

> > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material

would

> be

> > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be

> more

> > > > > effects of

> > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant

> effect?

> > > > Can

> > > > > various

> > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.

> > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was

> running.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and

> Saturn

> > > > with

> > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house

at

> 2

> > > > > degree.

> > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars.

Does

> > > this

> > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion

etc.

> > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many

lord

> in

> > > > 5th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is

> usually

> > > > subh.

> > > > > What do

> > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

debiliation

> > > sign.

> > > > > What is

> > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation

> sign,

> > > > what

> > > > > is the

> > > > > > effect?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does

this

> > > give.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj,

Ruby

> > > and

> > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods

> presence

> > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after

them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get

> some

> > > > reply

> > > > > from

> > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall

ask

> > > > again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Bhaskarji

I tried what you had asked to do (Not sure if you wanted only Su to do it but did it anyhow out of curiosity)

No it does not remain the same,some plannets change houses,in my case sun and mercury moved from 8H sagi to 7H scor,rahu moved from 12H Aries to 11th house pi to join saturn in 11th house,ketu moved backward from 6H to 5H to join moon.What does it mean and what exactly the bhavchalit chart says about a person.

Regards

Pankaj.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:59:30 PM Re: bhava chalit

 

Dear Su,Wonderful. ( Sharing always makes one more learned and I have learnt this, new from You)I never knew that this option existed,or never gave much mind to these optionswhenever watching the drop down menu. You havesaved me lot of time, in future,whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any time when my regular Licensed software is not working, or away from my place.Okay now you need to do more.After clicking on Basics on Top.next clicking on Houses below,the Listof 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course you know.Now anywhere on this page a rightclick would again give you a Drop down menu. Here you choose these 2 options as under.1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )2) Ascendant or the chosen reference isthe start of the First House.After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart and let me know whether it remains same,as the Natal Chart,

or some planets change Houses.best wishes,Bhaskar.www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com, "illusive_2" <reality_v@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear examples - it > was far more than what I expected!!> > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in> > J.Hora ?//> > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu appears. > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the item 'bhava > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will be > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.> > thank you again, Su > > --- In

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Su,> > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora> > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in> > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and> > never actually had enough time to explore the whole> > site, just looked at my own requirement and left> > the rest.> > > > Books on Bhava Chalit> > > > There are no particular books on> > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart> > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this> > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy> > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their

usage.> > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .> > > > A small example of the difference of results between> > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -> > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is> > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a> > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if> > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,> > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native> > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on> > the contrary the Native will always have outflow> > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native> > would be told by astrologers that he will have> > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,> > because these astrologers do not go deep in> > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart

).> > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter> > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit> > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?> > Its vanished, and the native need not> > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.> > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the> > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer> > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case> > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would> > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for> > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,> > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted> > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.> > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in> > the above discussion, if

one Leo ascendant has Mercury> > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer> > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need> > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted> > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.> > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read> > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not> > have to search or buy any books, just apply> > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and> > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,> > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.> > > > rgrds,> > Bhaskar.> > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com <http://www.shrikris hnajyotish. com>> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "illusive_2" <reality_v@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani> > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/ etc on how to use> > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same > as> > > rasi...would tht be right?> > > rgds Su> > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sheevaniji,> > >

>> > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,> > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but> > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You> > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.> > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional> > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly> > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive> > > > levels than their couterparts> > > > who do not use or study this chart.> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar> > > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sheevani147" > <sheevani147@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,> > > > >> > > > > Namaste.> > > > >> > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you> > > mentioned,,> > > > >> > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on > events> > > > in> > > > > the person's life.> > > > >> > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of> > > mars> > > > > mercury and moon.> > > > >> > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the

Lagna is in > the> > > 4th> > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it > is in> > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)> > > > >> > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,, > Mercury> > > is> > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in> > > > nakshatra> > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)> > > > >> > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)> > > placed> > > > in> > > > > an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect)> > > Mars> > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies.. >

therefore> > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to> > > give> > > > > good results.> > > > >> > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a > moksha> > > > > house..> > > > >> > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in> > > Dhanista> > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken > as> > > > > explained above)> > > > >> > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL> > > and> > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and > 12HL> > > > and> > > > > shani 7and 8HL..> >

> > >> > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with> > > mars,> > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor > of> > > > moon> > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..> > > > >> > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..> > > > >> > > > > warmest regards> > > > > Sheevani> > > > >> > > > > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@ >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to

the > group.> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > > > >> > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been > confusing> > > > for> > > > > me.> > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant > cancer> > > > which> > > > > after> > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.> > > > > >> > > > > > 21-Nov-1955> > > > > > 11:20pm> > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)> > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >

> > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.> > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would > be> > > > > helpful.> > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be > more> > > > > effects of> > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?> > > > > >> > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant > effect?> > > > Can> > > > > various> > > > > > life incidents give some clues?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.> > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was > running.> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA> > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and > Saturn> > > > with> > > > > 3rd> > > > > > Dhristi.> > > > > > What is the effect.> > > > > >> > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at > 2> > > > > degree.> > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.> > > > > >> > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does> > > this> > > > > breaks the> > >

> > > auspiciousness of mars?> > > > > >> > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.> > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.> > > > > > Your comment on this?> > > > > >> > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many lord > in> > > > 5th> > > > > house> > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.> > > > > >> > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is > usually> > > > subh.> > > > > What do> > > > > > you say for this case.> > > > > >> > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation> >

> sign.> > > > > What is> > > > > > the effect?> > > > > >> > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation > sign,> > > > what> > > > > is the> > > > > > effect?> > > > > >> > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this> > > give.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.> > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby> > > and> > > > > Moonga?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods >

presence> > > > > stays in the> > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.> > > > > >> > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.> > > > > >> > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get > some> > > > reply> > > > > from> > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask> > > > again.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Namah Shivay> > > > > > Rajeev> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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dear sri bhaskar,

the updated Jhora software ie 7.2 has incorporated

bhava chalit chart like varga charts. U can right clik

the natal chart, the window shows u to choose bhava

chalit or other varga charts.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

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Dear Pankajji,

 

When I put up a lengthy explanation here,

it would be obviously for all the members who

are interested, and can learn, and

its not just for Su alone. I am happy that you

tried this on your chart. Rahu if moved to

11th from 12th, means moving to a benefic house

from a evil house, so naturally rahu would

turn benefic now in house wise results. Same

for those planets which moved from the evil

8th house to the 7th. They would now no more

give 8th house results, as normally people

would think and be told by the

majority of astrologers.

 

Regarding Bhava Chalit, if you read my previous

mail on this subject, a couple of times, it would

be more beneficial for you, rather than me pushing

everything at one go.

 

Thus you may check what results now each planet would

give you in your life, inlight of new revelation found

by You ( Bhava Chalit ). You will be surprised to

find that those many whom you expected to be malefic

are actually benefic for you, and vice versa. And

proof lies in eating the pudding. After study of this

if you match the results in your actual Life,

they would be very near. Only this much for today.

I am busy whole day today.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

www,shrikrishnajyotish.com

 

 

 

 

 

, Pankaj Rathod <prathod

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

> I tried what you had asked to do (Not sure if you wanted only Su to

do it but did it anyhow out of curiosity)

> No it does not remain the same,some plannets change houses,in my

case sun and mercury moved from 8H sagi to 7H scor,rahu moved from

12H Aries to 11th house pi to join saturn in 11th house,ketu moved

backward from 6H to 5H to join moon.What does it mean and what

exactly the bhavchalit chart says about a person.

> Regards

> Pankaj.

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:59:30 PM

> Re: bhava chalit

>

>

> Dear Su,

>

> Wonderful.

> ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> and I have learnt this, new from You)

> I never knew that this option

> existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> saved me lot of time, in future,

> whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> time when my regular Licensed software is not

> working, or away from my place.

>

> Okay now you need to do more.

> After clicking on Basics on Top.

> next clicking on Houses below,the List

> of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> Here you choose these 2 options as under.

>

> 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> the start of the First House.

> After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> and let me know whether it remains same,

> as the Natal Chart,

> or some planets change Houses.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

>

> , " illusive_2 "

<reality_v@ ..>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear examples -

> it

> > was far more than what I expected!!

> >

> > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > J.Hora ?//

> >

> > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu

> appears.

> > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

item 'bhava

> > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will be

> > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by

> > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> >

> > thank you again, Su

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Su,

> > >

> > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > >

> > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > the rest.

> > >

> > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > >

> > > There are no particular books on

> > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > >

> > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > >

> > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > >

> > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > >

> > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > >

> > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > >

> > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > >

> > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > >

> > > rgrds,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com <http://www.shrikris hnajyotish.

com>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " illusive_2 "

<reality_v@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/ etc on how

to

> use

> > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the

> same

> > as

> > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > rgds Su

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > <sheevani147@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you

> > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information

on

> > events

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and

effects

> of

> > > > mars

> > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is

in

> > the

> > > > 4th

> > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as

it

> > is in

> > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

cancer/leo)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,,

> > Mercury

> > > > is

> > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg

lib)

> > > > placed

> > > > > in

> > > > > > an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is in 2h from mars(marka

> effect)

> > > > Mars

> > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies..

> > therefore

> > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is

unable

> to

> > > > give

> > > > > > good results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a

> > moksha

> > > > > > house..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in

> > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much

> weaken

> > as

> > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter

is

> 6HL

> > > > and

> > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury

> 3and

> > 12HL

> > > > > and

> > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house,

> with

> > > > mars,

> > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the

> depositor

> > of

> > > > > moon

> > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , RajeevM

> <rajeevmundra@ >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the

> > group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been

> > confusing

> > > > > for

> > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant

> > cancer

> > > > > which

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.

> > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material

> would

> > be

> > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there

be

> > more

> > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant

> > effect?

> > > > > Can

> > > > > > various

> > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years

old.

> > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was

> > running.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and

> > Saturn

> > > > > with

> > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th

house

> at

> > 2

> > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars.

> Does

> > > > this

> > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion

> etc.

> > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many

> lord

> > in

> > > > > 5th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is

> > usually

> > > > > subh.

> > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> debiliation

> > > > sign.

> > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

exaltation

> > sign,

> > > > > what

> > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does

> this

> > > > give.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj,

> Ruby

> > > > and

> > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods

> > presence

> > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after

> them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I

get

> > some

> > > > > reply

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I

shall

> ask

> > > > > again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Shri Gopuji,

It is so heartening to see you here. My strength lies in the company of you good people. Please continue to write here and enrich us with your knowledge and articles.

I will download the 7.2 in few days time. I have two things less in Life. Time and money.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:>> dear sri bhaskar,> the updated Jhora software ie 7.2 has incorporated> bhava chalit chart like varga charts. U can right clik> the natal chart, the window shows u to choose bhava> chalit or other varga charts.> > good wishes,> k.gopu>

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lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having learnt a

new feature]

Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag! Yes the

planets have moved !

 

But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other software to

see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime ago

another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there lagna

remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same as in

Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

 

In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one my fr

made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im not sure

which is correct.

 

rgds Su

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Su,

>

> Wonderful.

> ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> and I have learnt this, new from You)

> I never knew that this option

> existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> saved me lot of time, in future,

> whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> time when my regular Licensed software is not

> working, or away from my place.

>

> Okay now you need to do more.

> After clicking on Basics on Top.

> next clicking on Houses below,the List

> of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> Here you choose these 2 options as under.

>

> 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> the start of the First House.

> After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> and let me know whether it remains same,

> as the Natal Chart,

> or some planets change Houses.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

>

>

>

> , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear examples -

> it

> > was far more than what I expected!!

> >

> > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > J.Hora ?//

> >

> > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu

> appears.

> > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

item 'bhava

> > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will be

> > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by

> > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> >

> > thank you again, Su

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Su,

> > >

> > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > >

> > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > the rest.

> > >

> > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > >

> > > There are no particular books on

> > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > >

> > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > >

> > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > >

> > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > >

> > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > >

> > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > >

> > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > >

> > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > >

> > > rgrds,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on how to

> use

> > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the

> same

> > as

> > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > rgds Su

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you

> > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information

on

> > events

> > > > > in

> > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and

effects

> of

> > > > mars

> > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is

in

> > the

> > > > 4th

> > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as

it

> > is in

> > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

cancer/leo)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,,

> > Mercury

> > > > is

> > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg

lib)

> > > > placed

> > > > > in

> > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka

> effect)

> > > > Mars

> > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies..

> > therefore

> > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is

unable

> to

> > > > give

> > > > > > good results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a

> > moksha

> > > > > > house..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in

> > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much

> weaken

> > as

> > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter

is

> 6HL

> > > > and

> > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury

> 3and

> > 12HL

> > > > > and

> > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house,

> with

> > > > mars,

> > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the

> depositor

> > of

> > > > > moon

> > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , RajeevM

> <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the

> > group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been

> > confusing

> > > > > for

> > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant

> > cancer

> > > > > which

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.

> > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material

> would

> > be

> > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there

be

> > more

> > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant

> > effect?

> > > > > Can

> > > > > > various

> > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years

old.

> > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was

> > running.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and

> > Saturn

> > > > > with

> > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th

house

> at

> > 2

> > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars.

> Does

> > > > this

> > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion

> etc.

> > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many

> lord

> > in

> > > > > 5th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is

> > usually

> > > > > subh.

> > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> debiliation

> > > > sign.

> > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

exaltation

> > sign,

> > > > > what

> > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does

> this

> > > > give.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj,

> Ruby

> > > > and

> > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods

> > presence

> > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after

> them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I

get

> > some

> > > > > reply

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I

shall

> ask

> > > > > again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Su,

 

J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement

of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.

1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha

what we select, and even after we select,

the difference in the values

of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares.

( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use

as new and some use the old one, though

a very nominal inconsequential difference

is there unless one wants to time the event

to the minute, it does not matter).

Then there is difference between the values of Lat.

and longitude of the same place in

2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the

ascnedant which may cause difference in the

Ascendant Sublord at times, though again

minimal times.

 

I normally have another way to check the Planets

in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of

the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the

same page, you will find the 9 planets placed

in their various Bhavas, which is what

I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this

is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look

at them for the major part of my study.

Suppose you visit me while I am studying a

chart, and ask me suddenly what is the

ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be

for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would

have to think before replying you.

( When you reach this stage, this would

happen with you too.)

 

Okay now coming to the point of this mail.

My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,

deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,

and that includes yours too.If You can kindly

give me your details I will post back

the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the

Lordships.

 

Also remember that when you go for Placiddus

system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times

intercepted signs too, and thus you may

have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2

Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v

wrote:

>

> lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having learnt

a

> new feature]

> Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag! Yes the

> planets have moved !

>

> But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other software to

> see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime ago

> another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there lagna

> remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same as in

> Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

>

> In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one my fr

> made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im not

sure

> which is correct.

>

> rgds Su

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Su,

> >

> > Wonderful.

> > ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> > and I have learnt this, new from You)

> > I never knew that this option

> > existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> > saved me lot of time, in future,

> > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> > time when my regular Licensed software is not

> > working, or away from my place.

> >

> > Okay now you need to do more.

> > After clicking on Basics on Top.

> > next clicking on Houses below,the List

> > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> > click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> > Here you choose these 2 options as under.

> >

> > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> > the start of the First House.

> > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> > and let me know whether it remains same,

> > as the Natal Chart,

> > or some planets change Houses.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> >

> >

> >

> > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear

examples -

> > it

> > > was far more than what I expected!!

> > >

> > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > J.Hora ?//

> > >

> > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu

> > appears.

> > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

> item 'bhava

> > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will be

> > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by

> > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> > >

> > > thank you again, Su

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Su,

> > > >

> > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > > >

> > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > > the rest.

> > > >

> > > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > > >

> > > > There are no particular books on

> > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > > >

> > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > > >

> > > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > > >

> > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > > >

> > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > >

> > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > > >

> > > > rgrds,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " illusive_2 "

<reality_v@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on how

to

> > use

> > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the

> > same

> > > as

> > > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you

> > > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information

> on

> > > events

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and

> effects

> > of

> > > > > mars

> > > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna

is

> in

> > > the

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious

as

> it

> > > is in

> > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

> cancer/leo)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his

mother,,

> > > Mercury

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is

in

> > > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg

> lib)

> > > > > placed

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka

> > effect)

> > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies..

> > > therefore

> > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is

> unable

> > to

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > good results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is

a

> > > moksha

> > > > > > > house..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon

in

> > > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much

> > weaken

> > > as

> > > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter

> is

> > 6HL

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury

> > 3and

> > > 12HL

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th

house,

> > with

> > > > > mars,

> > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the

> > depositor

> > > of

> > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , RajeevM

> > <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to

the

> > > group.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been

> > > confusing

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of

ascendant

> > > cancer

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.

> > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material

> > would

> > > be

> > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will

there

> be

> > > more

> > > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having

dominant

> > > effect?

> > > > > > Can

> > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years

> old.

> > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha

was

> > > running.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi

and

> > > Saturn

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th

> house

> > at

> > > 2

> > > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with

mars.

> > Does

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child,

abortion

> > etc.

> > > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so

many

> > lord

> > > in

> > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is

> > > usually

> > > > > > subh.

> > > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> > debiliation

> > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

> exaltation

> > > sign,

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction

does

> > this

> > > > > give.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing,

Pokhraj,

> > Ruby

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and

gods

> > > presence

> > > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking

after

> > them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I

> get

> > > some

> > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I

> shall

> > ask

> > > > > > again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Bhaskar, this is really weird - this morning when I opened Jh and

looked at bhava chart the lag comes up as Aq!!! I closed and reloaded

again and it still remains as Aq. Last nite however soon after I

tried those changes u suggested it showed up as cp...perhaps

something got stuck somewhere and readjusted itself when I loaded it

ths morn. [if Aq is lag, then 2/11 L Ju, karaka for wealth, is ruling

in 11 with LL Sa. I should be rich, and with ve exalting in dhanstan

i should be super rich! But Im not at all rich. I currently dont

even have a proper income! It seems my rasi chart is more in

operation with 2/11L in 12hse of loss. :)]

 

However I dont quite understand the last right column [planets in it]

below : first row has, 'As', and in the last row, its says 'As,Ke'.

why does As appear twice?

 

[pasted fr Jh]

House Cusp Middle End Planets in it

 

1st 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " 1 Pi 23' 40.87 " 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " As

2nd 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " 3 Ar 50' 03.65 " 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " Mo, Ve

3rd 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " 4 Ta 03' 17.25 " 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " Su, Me

4th 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " 2 Ge 03' 27.34 " 15 Ge 40' 31.71 "

5th 15 Ge 40' 31.71 " 29 Ge 44' 40.33 " 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " Ma

6th 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " 29 Cn 18' 07.46 " 14 Le 47' 25.98 " Ra, Ur, Pl

7th 14 Le 47' 25.98 " 1 Vi 23' 40.87 " 17 Vi 59' 55.76 "

8th 17 Vi 59' 55.76 " 3 Li 50' 03.65 " 19 Li 40' 11.54 " Ne

9th 19 Li 40' 11.54 " 4 Sc 03' 17.25 " 18 Sc 26' 22.97 "

10th 18 Sc 26' 22.97 " 2 Sg 03' 27.34 " 15 Sg 40' 31.71 "

11th 15 Sg 40' 31.71 " 29 Sg 44' 40.33 " 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " Ju, Sa

12th 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " 29 Cp 18' 07.46 " 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " As, Ke

 

Natal Chart

 

May 13, 1961

Time: 2:03:00 am

Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 "

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

 

 

rgds Su

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Su,

>

> J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement

> of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.

> 1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha

> what we select, and even after we select,

> the difference in the values

> of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares.

> ( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use

> as new and some use the old one, though

> a very nominal inconsequential difference

> is there unless one wants to time the event

> to the minute, it does not matter).

> Then there is difference between the values of Lat.

> and longitude of the same place in

> 2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the

> ascnedant which may cause difference in the

> Ascendant Sublord at times, though again

> minimal times.

>

> I normally have another way to check the Planets

> in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of

> the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the

> same page, you will find the 9 planets placed

> in their various Bhavas, which is what

> I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this

> is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look

> at them for the major part of my study.

> Suppose you visit me while I am studying a

> chart, and ask me suddenly what is the

> ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be

> for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would

> have to think before replying you.

> ( When you reach this stage, this would

> happen with you too.)

>

> Okay now coming to the point of this mail.

> My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,

> deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,

> and that includes yours too.If You can kindly

> give me your details I will post back

> the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the

> Lordships.

>

> Also remember that when you go for Placiddus

> system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times

> intercepted signs too, and thus you may

> have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2

> Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

>

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> >

> > lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having

learnt

> a

> > new feature]

> > Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag! Yes

the

> > planets have moved !

> >

> > But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other software

to

> > see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime ago

> > another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there lagna

> > remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same as

in

> > Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

> >

> > In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one my

fr

> > made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im not

> sure

> > which is correct.

> >

> > rgds Su

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Su,

> > >

> > > Wonderful.

> > > ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> > > and I have learnt this, new from You)

> > > I never knew that this option

> > > existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> > > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> > > saved me lot of time, in future,

> > > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> > > time when my regular Licensed software is not

> > > working, or away from my place.

> > >

> > > Okay now you need to do more.

> > > After clicking on Basics on Top.

> > > next clicking on Houses below,the List

> > > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> > > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> > > click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> > > Here you choose these 2 options as under.

> > >

> > > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> > > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> > > the start of the First House.

> > > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> > > and let me know whether it remains same,

> > > as the Natal Chart,

> > > or some planets change Houses.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear

> examples -

> > > it

> > > > was far more than what I expected!!

> > > >

> > > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > J.Hora ?//

> > > >

> > > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu

> > > appears.

> > > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

> > item 'bhava

> > > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will

be

> > > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra by

> > > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> > > >

> > > > thank you again, Su

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > > > >

> > > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > > > the rest.

> > > > >

> > > > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > > > >

> > > > > There are no particular books on

> > > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > > > >

> > > > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > > > >

> > > > > rgrds,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

<http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> <reality_v@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on

how

> to

> > > use

> > > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly

the

> > > same

> > > > as

> > > > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope

you

> > > > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more

information

> > on

> > > > events

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and

> > effects

> > > of

> > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna

> is

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious

> as

> > it

> > > > is in

> > > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

> > cancer/leo)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his

> mother,,

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury

is

> in

> > > > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak

(2deg

> > lib)

> > > > > > placed

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars(marka

> > > effect)

> > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent

enemies..

> > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is

> > unable

> > > to

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > good results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which

is

> a

> > > > moksha

> > > > > > > > house..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak,

Moon

> in

> > > > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very

much

> > > weaken

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but

jupiter

> > is

> > > 6HL

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun,

mercury

> > > 3and

> > > > 12HL

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th

> house,

> > > with

> > > > > > mars,

> > > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the

> > > depositor

> > > > of

> > > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , RajeevM

> > > <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to

> the

> > > > group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its

been

> > > > confusing

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of

> ascendant

> > > > cancer

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a

place.

> > > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading

material

> > > would

> > > > be

> > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will

> there

> > be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having

> dominant

> > > > effect?

> > > > > > > Can

> > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4

years

> > old.

> > > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha

> was

> > > > running.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi

> and

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th

> > house

> > > at

> > > > 2

> > > > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with

> mars.

> > > Does

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child,

> abortion

> > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so

> many

> > > lord

> > > > in

> > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th

is

> > > > usually

> > > > > > > subh.

> > > > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> > > debiliation

> > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

> > exaltation

> > > > sign,

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction

> does

> > > this

> > > > > > give.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing,

> Pokhraj,

> > > Ruby

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and

> gods

> > > > presence

> > > > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking

> after

> > > them.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till

I

> > get

> > > > some

> > > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I

> > shall

> > > ask

> > > > > > > again.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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dear Mr su,

I am surprised as to how ur getting juptier and saturn

in saggitarrius. Ur lagna both in natal and bhava

chart is aquarius, ur second and 12th lord jupiter is

in capricorn in 12th house and debilitated along with

saturn. ur running mars dasa upto 2009. mars is

causing argala to th e 7th from lagna, so if ur in

buisness it will be struggle. otherwise the mercury,

venus and sun ,moon bhukthi will be favourable to u.

if u apply vedic astro methods, ur 2nd lord and

11thlord jupiter is in 12th so whatever u earn it

vanishes. ur 12th house has more SAV points than the

11th. however sri bhaskar will also provide u the

analysis when he is free.

 

good luck,

k.gopu

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Dear Gopu

 

thanks for your mail. I get ju/sa in cp in rasi and in sag in bhava.

I wasnt quite looking for analysis - was more trying to determine if

the chalit lag was correct, since on my first cast Jh gave me cp as

lag in chalit, then myteriously switched to aq.

 

I am not in biz and have no interest in it. But yes with 2/11L in 12

in rasi whatever money comes it goes out almost immediately! Which is

why I doubted if the aq lag in chalit was correct. In any case I hve

no exp with chalit so I am not quite in a position to say which lag

is correct.

 

rgds Su

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

>

>

> dear Mr su,

> I am surprised as to how ur getting juptier and saturn

> in saggitarrius. Ur lagna both in natal and bhava

> chart is aquarius, ur second and 12th lord jupiter is

> in capricorn in 12th house and debilitated along with

> saturn. ur running mars dasa upto 2009. mars is

> causing argala to th e 7th from lagna, so if ur in

> buisness it will be struggle. otherwise the mercury,

> venus and sun ,moon bhukthi will be favourable to u.

> if u apply vedic astro methods, ur 2nd lord and

> 11thlord jupiter is in 12th so whatever u earn it

> vanishes. ur 12th house has more SAV points than the

> 11th. however sri bhaskar will also provide u the

> analysis when he is free.

>

> good luck,

> k.gopu

>

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Su,

 

I am already on Your chart.

Please give me half an hours time to back

to you.

In the meanwhile I am getting Ascendant

Acquarius 14.54.30 which means that you

have not changed the ayanamsha setings to Kp.

They still remain at Lahiris. All your

Bhava placements are absolutely correct.

The Bhava Lagna would be starting from

14.54.30 Acquarius, which means that the

portion behind this,that is the 14degrees

prior to this has been taken up by the 12th

Bhava. Which is why probably they ( J.Hora)

mention Asc both up and down.

 

will get back to you in some time.

Meanwhile you may get ready with

queries, if any.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v

wrote:

>

> Bhaskar, this is really weird - this morning when I opened Jh and

> looked at bhava chart the lag comes up as Aq!!! I closed and

reloaded

> again and it still remains as Aq. Last nite however soon after I

> tried those changes u suggested it showed up as cp...perhaps

> something got stuck somewhere and readjusted itself when I loaded

it

> ths morn. [if Aq is lag, then 2/11 L Ju, karaka for wealth, is

ruling

> in 11 with LL Sa. I should be rich, and with ve exalting in

dhanstan

> i should be super rich! But Im not at all rich. I currently dont

> even have a proper income! It seems my rasi chart is more in

> operation with 2/11L in 12hse of loss. :)]

>

> However I dont quite understand the last right column [planets in

it]

> below : first row has, 'As', and in the last row, its says 'As,Ke'.

> why does As appear twice?

>

> [pasted fr Jh]

> House Cusp Middle End Planets in

it

>

> 1st 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " 1 Pi 23' 40.87 " 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " As

> 2nd 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " 3 Ar 50' 03.65 " 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " Mo, Ve

> 3rd 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " 4 Ta 03' 17.25 " 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " Su, Me

> 4th 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " 2 Ge 03' 27.34 " 15 Ge 40' 31.71 "

> 5th 15 Ge 40' 31.71 " 29 Ge 44' 40.33 " 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " Ma

> 6th 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " 29 Cn 18' 07.46 " 14 Le 47' 25.98 " Ra, Ur, Pl

> 7th 14 Le 47' 25.98 " 1 Vi 23' 40.87 " 17 Vi 59' 55.76 "

> 8th 17 Vi 59' 55.76 " 3 Li 50' 03.65 " 19 Li 40' 11.54 " Ne

> 9th 19 Li 40' 11.54 " 4 Sc 03' 17.25 " 18 Sc 26' 22.97 "

> 10th 18 Sc 26' 22.97 " 2 Sg 03' 27.34 " 15 Sg 40' 31.71 "

> 11th 15 Sg 40' 31.71 " 29 Sg 44' 40.33 " 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " Ju, Sa

> 12th 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " 29 Cp 18' 07.46 " 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " As, Ke

>

> Natal Chart

>

> May 13, 1961

> Time: 2:03:00 am

> Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 "

> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

>

>

> rgds Su

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Su,

> >

> > J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement

> > of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.

> > 1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha

> > what we select, and even after we select,

> > the difference in the values

> > of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares.

> > ( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use

> > as new and some use the old one, though

> > a very nominal inconsequential difference

> > is there unless one wants to time the event

> > to the minute, it does not matter).

> > Then there is difference between the values of Lat.

> > and longitude of the same place in

> > 2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the

> > ascnedant which may cause difference in the

> > Ascendant Sublord at times, though again

> > minimal times.

> >

> > I normally have another way to check the Planets

> > in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of

> > the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the

> > same page, you will find the 9 planets placed

> > in their various Bhavas, which is what

> > I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this

> > is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look

> > at them for the major part of my study.

> > Suppose you visit me while I am studying a

> > chart, and ask me suddenly what is the

> > ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be

> > for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would

> > have to think before replying you.

> > ( When you reach this stage, this would

> > happen with you too.)

> >

> > Okay now coming to the point of this mail.

> > My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,

> > deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,

> > and that includes yours too.If You can kindly

> > give me your details I will post back

> > the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the

> > Lordships.

> >

> > Also remember that when you go for Placiddus

> > system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times

> > intercepted signs too, and thus you may

> > have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2

> > Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having

> learnt

> > a

> > > new feature]

> > > Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag! Yes

> the

> > > planets have moved !

> > >

> > > But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other software

> to

> > > see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime ago

> > > another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there lagna

> > > remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same

as

> in

> > > Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

> > >

> > > In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one

my

> fr

> > > made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im not

> > sure

> > > which is correct.

> > >

> > > rgds Su

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Su,

> > > >

> > > > Wonderful.

> > > > ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> > > > and I have learnt this, new from You)

> > > > I never knew that this option

> > > > existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> > > > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> > > > saved me lot of time, in future,

> > > > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> > > > time when my regular Licensed software is not

> > > > working, or away from my place.

> > > >

> > > > Okay now you need to do more.

> > > > After clicking on Basics on Top.

> > > > next clicking on Houses below,the List

> > > > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> > > > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> > > > click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> > > > Here you choose these 2 options as under.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> > > > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> > > > the start of the First House.

> > > > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> > > > and let me know whether it remains same,

> > > > as the Natal Chart,

> > > > or some planets change Houses.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " illusive_2 "

<reality_v@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear

> > examples -

> > > > it

> > > > > was far more than what I expected!!

> > > > >

> > > > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > J.Hora ?//

> > > > >

> > > > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down menu

> > > > appears.

> > > > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

> > > item 'bhava

> > > > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra will

> be

> > > > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi chakra

by

> > > > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> > > > >

> > > > > thank you again, Su

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > > > > the rest.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are no particular books on

> > > > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > > > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > > > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgrds,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> > <reality_v@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc on

> how

> > to

> > > > use

> > > > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly

> the

> > > > same

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,

> > > > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > > > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope

> you

> > > > > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more

> information

> > > on

> > > > > events

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and

> > > effects

> > > > of

> > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the

Lagna

> > is

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very

inauspicious

> > as

> > > it

> > > > > is in

> > > > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

> > > cancer/leo)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his

> > mother,,

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna.

Mercury

> is

> > in

> > > > > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak

> (2deg

> > > lib)

> > > > > > > placed

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars

(marka

> > > > effect)

> > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent

> enemies..

> > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it

is

> > > unable

> > > > to

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > good results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house,

which

> is

> > a

> > > > > moksha

> > > > > > > > > house..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak,

> Moon

> > in

> > > > > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very

> much

> > > > weaken

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but

> jupiter

> > > is

> > > > 6HL

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun,

> mercury

> > > > 3and

> > > > > 12HL

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th

> > house,

> > > > with

> > > > > > > mars,

> > > > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the

> > > > depositor

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , RajeevM

> > > > <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email

to

> > the

> > > > > group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its

> been

> > > > > confusing

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of

> > ascendant

> > > > > cancer

> > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a

> place.

> > > > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading

> material

> > > > would

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will

> > there

> > > be

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having

> > dominant

> > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > Can

> > > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4

> years

> > > old.

> > > > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury

dasha

> > was

> > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th

dhristi

> > and

> > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good

yog?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in

4th

> > > house

> > > > at

> > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with

> > mars.

> > > > Does

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child,

> > abortion

> > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so

> > many

> > > > lord

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in

11th

> is

> > > > > usually

> > > > > > > > subh.

> > > > > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> > > > debiliation

> > > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

> > > exaltation

> > > > > sign,

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction

> > does

> > > > this

> > > > > > > give.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing,

> > Pokhraj,

> > > > Ruby

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and

> > gods

> > > > > presence

> > > > > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking

> > after

> > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions

till

> I

> > > get

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries,

I

> > > shall

> > > > ask

> > > > > > > > again.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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oh Bhaskar...theres no hurry at all!! Pls take your time...

[i ought to be in bed in any case!!]

rgds, Su

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Su,

>

> I am already on Your chart.

> Please give me half an hours time to back

> to you.

> In the meanwhile I am getting Ascendant

> Acquarius 14.54.30 which means that you

> have not changed the ayanamsha setings to Kp.

> They still remain at Lahiris. All your

> Bhava placements are absolutely correct.

> The Bhava Lagna would be starting from

> 14.54.30 Acquarius, which means that the

> portion behind this,that is the 14degrees

> prior to this has been taken up by the 12th

> Bhava. Which is why probably they ( J.Hora)

> mention Asc both up and down.

>

> will get back to you in some time.

> Meanwhile you may get ready with

> queries, if any.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar, this is really weird - this morning when I opened Jh and

> > looked at bhava chart the lag comes up as Aq!!! I closed and

> reloaded

> > again and it still remains as Aq. Last nite however soon after I

> > tried those changes u suggested it showed up as cp...perhaps

> > something got stuck somewhere and readjusted itself when I loaded

> it

> > ths morn. [if Aq is lag, then 2/11 L Ju, karaka for wealth, is

> ruling

> > in 11 with LL Sa. I should be rich, and with ve exalting in

> dhanstan

> > i should be super rich! But Im not at all rich. I currently dont

> > even have a proper income! It seems my rasi chart is more in

> > operation with 2/11L in 12hse of loss. :)]

> >

> > However I dont quite understand the last right column [planets in

> it]

> > below : first row has, 'As', and in the last row, its

says 'As,Ke'.

> > why does As appear twice?

> >

> > [pasted fr Jh]

> > House Cusp Middle End Planets

in

> it

> >

> > 1st 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " 1 Pi 23' 40.87 " 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " As

> > 2nd 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " 3 Ar 50' 03.65 " 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " Mo, Ve

> > 3rd 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " 4 Ta 03' 17.25 " 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " Su, Me

> > 4th 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " 2 Ge 03' 27.34 " 15 Ge 40' 31.71 "

> > 5th 15 Ge 40' 31.71 " 29 Ge 44' 40.33 " 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " Ma

> > 6th 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " 29 Cn 18' 07.46 " 14 Le 47' 25.98 " Ra, Ur,

Pl

> > 7th 14 Le 47' 25.98 " 1 Vi 23' 40.87 " 17 Vi 59' 55.76 "

> > 8th 17 Vi 59' 55.76 " 3 Li 50' 03.65 " 19 Li 40' 11.54 " Ne

> > 9th 19 Li 40' 11.54 " 4 Sc 03' 17.25 " 18 Sc 26' 22.97 "

> > 10th 18 Sc 26' 22.97 " 2 Sg 03' 27.34 " 15 Sg 40' 31.71 "

> > 11th 15 Sg 40' 31.71 " 29 Sg 44' 40.33 " 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " Ju, Sa

> > 12th 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " 29 Cp 18' 07.46 " 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " As, Ke

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > May 13, 1961

> > Time: 2:03:00 am

> > Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 "

> > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

> >

> >

> > rgds Su

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Su,

> > >

> > > J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement

> > > of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.

> > > 1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha

> > > what we select, and even after we select,

> > > the difference in the values

> > > of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares.

> > > ( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use

> > > as new and some use the old one, though

> > > a very nominal inconsequential difference

> > > is there unless one wants to time the event

> > > to the minute, it does not matter).

> > > Then there is difference between the values of Lat.

> > > and longitude of the same place in

> > > 2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the

> > > ascnedant which may cause difference in the

> > > Ascendant Sublord at times, though again

> > > minimal times.

> > >

> > > I normally have another way to check the Planets

> > > in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of

> > > the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the

> > > same page, you will find the 9 planets placed

> > > in their various Bhavas, which is what

> > > I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this

> > > is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look

> > > at them for the major part of my study.

> > > Suppose you visit me while I am studying a

> > > chart, and ask me suddenly what is the

> > > ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be

> > > for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would

> > > have to think before replying you.

> > > ( When you reach this stage, this would

> > > happen with you too.)

> > >

> > > Okay now coming to the point of this mail.

> > > My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,

> > > deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,

> > > and that includes yours too.If You can kindly

> > > give me your details I will post back

> > > the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the

> > > Lordships.

> > >

> > > Also remember that when you go for Placiddus

> > > system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times

> > > intercepted signs too, and thus you may

> > > have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2

> > > Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having

> > learnt

> > > a

> > > > new feature]

> > > > Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag!

Yes

> > the

> > > > planets have moved !

> > > >

> > > > But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other

software

> > to

> > > > see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime

ago

> > > > another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there

lagna

> > > > remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same

> as

> > in

> > > > Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

> > > >

> > > > In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one

> my

> > fr

> > > > made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im

not

> > > sure

> > > > which is correct.

> > > >

> > > > rgds Su

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wonderful.

> > > > > ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> > > > > and I have learnt this, new from You)

> > > > > I never knew that this option

> > > > > existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> > > > > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> > > > > saved me lot of time, in future,

> > > > > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> > > > > time when my regular Licensed software is not

> > > > > working, or away from my place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay now you need to do more.

> > > > > After clicking on Basics on Top.

> > > > > next clicking on Houses below,the List

> > > > > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> > > > > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> > > > > click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> > > > > Here you choose these 2 options as under.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> > > > > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> > > > > the start of the First House.

> > > > > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> > > > > and let me know whether it remains same,

> > > > > as the Natal Chart,

> > > > > or some planets change Houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> <reality_v@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear

> > > examples -

> > > > > it

> > > > > > was far more than what I expected!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > > J.Hora ?//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down

menu

> > > > > appears.

> > > > > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

> > > > item 'bhava

> > > > > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra

will

> > be

> > > > > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi

chakra

> by

> > > > > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thank you again, Su

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > > > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > > > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > > > > > the rest.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are no particular books on

> > > > > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > > > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > > > > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > > > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > > > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > > > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > > > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > > > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > > > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > > > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > > > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > > > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > > > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > > > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > > > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > > > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > > > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > > > > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > > > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > > > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > > > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > > > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > > > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > > > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > > > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > > > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > > > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > > > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > > > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > > > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > > > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > > > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > > > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > > > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rgrds,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> > > <reality_v@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > > > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc

on

> > how

> > > to

> > > > > use

> > > > > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears

exactly

> > the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the

chart,

> > > > > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > > > > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the

horoscope

> > you

> > > > > > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more

> > information

> > > > on

> > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother

and

> > > > effects

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the

> Lagna

> > > is

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very

> inauspicious

> > > as

> > > > it

> > > > > > is in

> > > > > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

> > > > cancer/leo)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his

> > > mother,,

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna.

> Mercury

> > is

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak

> > (2deg

> > > > lib)

> > > > > > > > placed

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars

> (marka

> > > > > effect)

> > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent

> > enemies..

> > > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it

> is

> > > > unable

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > good results.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house,

> which

> > is

> > > a

> > > > > > moksha

> > > > > > > > > > house..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is

weak,

> > Moon

> > > in

> > > > > > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very

> > much

> > > > > weaken

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but

> > jupiter

> > > > is

> > > > > 6HL

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun,

> > mercury

> > > > > 3and

> > > > > > 12HL

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th

> > > house,

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > mars,

> > > > > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani

the

> > > > > depositor

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from

moon..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , RajeevM

> > > > > <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > group.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but

its

> > been

> > > > > > confusing

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of

> > > ascendant

> > > > > > cancer

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a

> > place.

> > > > > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading

> > material

> > > > > would

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min,

will

> > > there

> > > > be

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having

> > > dominant

> > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > Can

> > > > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4

> > years

> > > > old.

> > > > > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury

> dasha

> > > was

> > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th

> dhristi

> > > and

> > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good

> yog?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in

> 4th

> > > > house

> > > > > at

> > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house

with

> > > mars.

> > > > > Does

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child,

> > > abortion

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of

so

> > > many

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in

> 11th

> > is

> > > > > > usually

> > > > > > > > > subh.

> > > > > > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> > > > > debiliation

> > > > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

> > > > exaltation

> > > > > > sign,

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what

direction

> > > does

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > give.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing,

> > > Pokhraj,

> > > > > Ruby

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard

and

> > > gods

> > > > > > presence

> > > > > > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish

looking

> > > after

> > > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions

> till

> > I

> > > > get

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more

queries,

> I

> > > > shall

> > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > again.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I switched ayanamsa to KP and asc is 14.53 now...but whats weird is

tht bhava lag keeps shifting betn aq and cp with each reload of Jh!!

Once its Aq , then its Cp, then its Aq again..and so on!!

 

Su

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Su,

>

> I am already on Your chart.

> Please give me half an hours time to back

> to you.

> In the meanwhile I am getting Ascendant

> Acquarius 14.54.30 which means that you

> have not changed the ayanamsha setings to Kp.

> They still remain at Lahiris. All your

> Bhava placements are absolutely correct.

> The Bhava Lagna would be starting from

> 14.54.30 Acquarius, which means that the

> portion behind this,that is the 14degrees

> prior to this has been taken up by the 12th

> Bhava. Which is why probably they ( J.Hora)

> mention Asc both up and down.

>

> will get back to you in some time.

> Meanwhile you may get ready with

> queries, if any.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

, " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar, this is really weird - this morning when I opened Jh and

> > looked at bhava chart the lag comes up as Aq!!! I closed and

> reloaded

> > again and it still remains as Aq. Last nite however soon after I

> > tried those changes u suggested it showed up as cp...perhaps

> > something got stuck somewhere and readjusted itself when I loaded

> it

> > ths morn. [if Aq is lag, then 2/11 L Ju, karaka for wealth, is

> ruling

> > in 11 with LL Sa. I should be rich, and with ve exalting in

> dhanstan

> > i should be super rich! But Im not at all rich. I currently dont

> > even have a proper income! It seems my rasi chart is more in

> > operation with 2/11L in 12hse of loss. :)]

> >

> > However I dont quite understand the last right column [planets in

> it]

> > below : first row has, 'As', and in the last row, its

says 'As,Ke'.

> > why does As appear twice?

> >

> > [pasted fr Jh]

> > House Cusp Middle End Planets

in

> it

> >

> > 1st 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " 1 Pi 23' 40.87 " 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " As

> > 2nd 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " 3 Ar 50' 03.65 " 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " Mo, Ve

> > 3rd 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " 4 Ta 03' 17.25 " 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " Su, Me

> > 4th 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " 2 Ge 03' 27.34 " 15 Ge 40' 31.71 "

> > 5th 15 Ge 40' 31.71 " 29 Ge 44' 40.33 " 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " Ma

> > 6th 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " 29 Cn 18' 07.46 " 14 Le 47' 25.98 " Ra, Ur,

Pl

> > 7th 14 Le 47' 25.98 " 1 Vi 23' 40.87 " 17 Vi 59' 55.76 "

> > 8th 17 Vi 59' 55.76 " 3 Li 50' 03.65 " 19 Li 40' 11.54 " Ne

> > 9th 19 Li 40' 11.54 " 4 Sc 03' 17.25 " 18 Sc 26' 22.97 "

> > 10th 18 Sc 26' 22.97 " 2 Sg 03' 27.34 " 15 Sg 40' 31.71 "

> > 11th 15 Sg 40' 31.71 " 29 Sg 44' 40.33 " 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " Ju, Sa

> > 12th 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " 29 Cp 18' 07.46 " 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " As, Ke

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > May 13, 1961

> > Time: 2:03:00 am

> > Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 "

> > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

> >

> >

> > rgds Su

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Su,

> > >

> > > J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement

> > > of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.

> > > 1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha

> > > what we select, and even after we select,

> > > the difference in the values

> > > of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares.

> > > ( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use

> > > as new and some use the old one, though

> > > a very nominal inconsequential difference

> > > is there unless one wants to time the event

> > > to the minute, it does not matter).

> > > Then there is difference between the values of Lat.

> > > and longitude of the same place in

> > > 2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the

> > > ascnedant which may cause difference in the

> > > Ascendant Sublord at times, though again

> > > minimal times.

> > >

> > > I normally have another way to check the Planets

> > > in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of

> > > the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the

> > > same page, you will find the 9 planets placed

> > > in their various Bhavas, which is what

> > > I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this

> > > is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look

> > > at them for the major part of my study.

> > > Suppose you visit me while I am studying a

> > > chart, and ask me suddenly what is the

> > > ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be

> > > for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would

> > > have to think before replying you.

> > > ( When you reach this stage, this would

> > > happen with you too.)

> > >

> > > Okay now coming to the point of this mail.

> > > My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,

> > > deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,

> > > and that includes yours too.If You can kindly

> > > give me your details I will post back

> > > the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the

> > > Lordships.

> > >

> > > Also remember that when you go for Placiddus

> > > system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times

> > > intercepted signs too, and thus you may

> > > have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2

> > > Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having

> > learnt

> > > a

> > > > new feature]

> > > > Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag!

Yes

> > the

> > > > planets have moved !

> > > >

> > > > But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other

software

> > to

> > > > see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime

ago

> > > > another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there

lagna

> > > > remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same

> as

> > in

> > > > Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

> > > >

> > > > In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one

> my

> > fr

> > > > made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im

not

> > > sure

> > > > which is correct.

> > > >

> > > > rgds Su

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wonderful.

> > > > > ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> > > > > and I have learnt this, new from You)

> > > > > I never knew that this option

> > > > > existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> > > > > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> > > > > saved me lot of time, in future,

> > > > > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> > > > > time when my regular Licensed software is not

> > > > > working, or away from my place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay now you need to do more.

> > > > > After clicking on Basics on Top.

> > > > > next clicking on Houses below,the List

> > > > > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> > > > > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> > > > > click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> > > > > Here you choose these 2 options as under.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> > > > > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> > > > > the start of the First House.

> > > > > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> > > > > and let me know whether it remains same,

> > > > > as the Natal Chart,

> > > > > or some planets change Houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> <reality_v@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear

> > > examples -

> > > > > it

> > > > > > was far more than what I expected!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > > J.Hora ?//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down

menu

> > > > > appears.

> > > > > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the

> > > > item 'bhava

> > > > > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra

will

> > be

> > > > > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi

chakra

> by

> > > > > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thank you again, Su

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > > > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > > > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > > > > > the rest.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are no particular books on

> > > > > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > > > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > > > > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > > > > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > > > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > > > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > > > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > > > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > > > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > > > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > > > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > > > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > > > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > > > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > > > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > > > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > > > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > > > > > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > > > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > > > > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > > > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > > > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > > > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > > > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > > > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > > > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > > > > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > > > > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > > > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > > > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > > > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > > > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > > > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > > > > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rgrds,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> > > <reality_v@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > > > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc

on

> > how

> > > to

> > > > > use

> > > > > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears

exactly

> > the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the

chart,

> > > > > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but

> > > > > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You

> > > > > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly

> > > > > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive

> > > > > > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " sheevani147 "

> > > > > > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the

horoscope

> > you

> > > > > > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more

> > information

> > > > on

> > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother

and

> > > > effects

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the

> Lagna

> > > is

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very

> inauspicious

> > > as

> > > > it

> > > > > > is in

> > > > > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,,

> > > > cancer/leo)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his

> > > mother,,

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna.

> Mercury

> > is

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak

> > (2deg

> > > > lib)

> > > > > > > > placed

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars

> (marka

> > > > > effect)

> > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent

> > enemies..

> > > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it

> is

> > > > unable

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > good results.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house,

> which

> > is

> > > a

> > > > > > moksha

> > > > > > > > > > house..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is

weak,

> > Moon

> > > in

> > > > > > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very

> > much

> > > > > weaken

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but

> > jupiter

> > > > is

> > > > > 6HL

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun,

> > mercury

> > > > > 3and

> > > > > > 12HL

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th

> > > house,

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > mars,

> > > > > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani

the

> > > > > depositor

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from

moon..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , RajeevM

> > > > > <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email

> to

> > > the

> > > > > > group.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but

its

> > been

> > > > > > confusing

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of

> > > ascendant

> > > > > > cancer

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a

> > place.

> > > > > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading

> > material

> > > > > would

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min,

will

> > > there

> > > > be

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having

> > > dominant

> > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > Can

> > > > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4

> > years

> > > > old.

> > > > > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury

> dasha

> > > was

> > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th

> dhristi

> > > and

> > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good

> yog?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in

> 4th

> > > > house

> > > > > at

> > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house

with

> > > mars.

> > > > > Does

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child,

> > > abortion

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of

so

> > > many

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in

> 11th

> > is

> > > > > > usually

> > > > > > > > > subh.

> > > > > > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its

> > > > > debiliation

> > > > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of

> > > > exaltation

> > > > > > sign,

> > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what

direction

> > > does

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > > give.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > > > > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing,

> > > Pokhraj,

> > > > > Ruby

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard

and

> > > gods

> > > > > > presence

> > > > > > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish

looking

> > > after

> > > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions

> till

> > I

> > > > get

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more

queries,

> I

> > > > shall

> > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > again.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Su,

 

Both Jupiter and Saturn move

from the 12th house in your Natal Chart,

to the 11th Bhava. This is a very positive

shift, cause both Jupiter and Saturn

whenever they Arrive as the Dasa antardasha

Lord and are empowered, they would represent the

11th house of gains ( They would

represent only the house effects they shift to,

but signs do not shift and Signs in which planets

are placed always remain same even in

Bhava chart and have to be reckoned in that manner

only as the Natal chart - I mean characteristics of

which planet placed in which sign ). .

On the other side Rahu moving to the 6th means

trouble in the area of health, sudden cuts and

sudden ill health to you.

Thus you may check the effects of any other

change in your Chart, and read accordingly.

 

Mars Mahadasha.

Mars represents the 5th house, which means the other person

( people ) would take advantage of You. Its is placed in

constellation of Saturn who represents the 11th and 12th house

both. This means Inflow and Outflow of Income equally .

 

Current antardasha Moon

Representing 2nd house of wealth. and 6th house of income

through profession. Constellationwise representing the

12th house which again shows the income going away

in one or the other heads of expenditure .

 

This is the way to judge the Cuspal or Bhava Chalit Chart.

and you would find the answers to many questions hitherto

unanswered.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar

www.shrkrishnajyotish.com

 

 

, "illusive_2" <reality_v wrote:>> oh Bhaskar...theres no hurry at all!! Pls take your time...> [i ought to be in bed in any case!!]> rgds, Su> > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> > Su,> > > > I am already on Your chart.> > Please give me half an hours time to back > > to you.> > In the meanwhile I am getting Ascendant> > Acquarius 14.54.30 which means that you> > have not changed the ayanamsha setings to Kp.> > They still remain at Lahiris. All your > > Bhava placements are absolutely correct.> > The Bhava Lagna would be starting from > > 14.54.30 Acquarius, which means that the> > portion behind this,that is the 14degrees> > prior to this has been taken up by the 12th > > Bhava. Which is why probably they ( J.Hora)> > mention Asc both up and down.> > > > will get back to you in some time.> > Meanwhile you may get ready with > > queries, if any.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "illusive_2" <reality_v@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Bhaskar, this is really weird - this morning when I opened Jh and > > > looked at bhava chart the lag comes up as Aq!!! I closed and > > reloaded > > > again and it still remains as Aq. Last nite however soon after I > > > tried those changes u suggested it showed up as cp...perhaps > > > something got stuck somewhere and readjusted itself when I loaded > > it > > > ths morn. [if Aq is lag, then 2/11 L Ju, karaka for wealth, is > > ruling > > > in 11 with LL Sa. I should be rich, and with ve exalting in > > dhanstan > > > i should be super rich! But Im not at all rich. I currently dont > > > even have a proper income! It seems my rasi chart is more in > > > operation with 2/11L in 12hse of loss. :)]> > > > > > However I dont quite understand the last right column [planets in > > it] > > > below : first row has, 'As', and in the last row, its > says 'As,Ke'. > > > why does As appear twice?> > > > > > [pasted fr Jh]> > > House Cusp Middle End Planets > in > > it> > > > > > 1st 14 Aq 47' 25.98" 1 Pi 23' 40.87" 17 Pi 59' 55.76" As> > > 2nd 17 Pi 59' 55.76" 3 Ar 50' 03.65" 19 Ar 40' 11.54" Mo, Ve> > > 3rd 19 Ar 40' 11.54" 4 Ta 03' 17.25" 18 Ta 26' 22.97" Su, Me> > > 4th 18 Ta 26' 22.97" 2 Ge 03' 27.34" 15 Ge 40' 31.71" > > > 5th 15 Ge 40' 31.71" 29 Ge 44' 40.33" 13 Cn 48' 48.95" Ma> > > 6th 13 Cn 48' 48.95" 29 Cn 18' 07.46" 14 Le 47' 25.98" Ra, Ur, > Pl> > > 7th 14 Le 47' 25.98" 1 Vi 23' 40.87" 17 Vi 59' 55.76" > > > 8th 17 Vi 59' 55.76" 3 Li 50' 03.65" 19 Li 40' 11.54" Ne> > > 9th 19 Li 40' 11.54" 4 Sc 03' 17.25" 18 Sc 26' 22.97" > > > 10th 18 Sc 26' 22.97" 2 Sg 03' 27.34" 15 Sg 40' 31.71" > > > 11th 15 Sg 40' 31.71" 29 Sg 44' 40.33" 13 Cp 48' 48.95" Ju, Sa> > > 12th 13 Cp 48' 48.95" 29 Cp 18' 07.46" 14 Aq 47' 25.98" As, Ke> > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > May 13, 1961> > > Time: 2:03:00 am> > > Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 101 E 42' 00", 3 N 10' 00"> > > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia> > > > > > > > > rgds Su> > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Su,> > > > > > > > J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement> > > > of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.> > > > 1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha > > > > what we select, and even after we select,> > > > the difference in the values> > > > of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares. > > > > ( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use> > > > as new and some use the old one, though> > > > a very nominal inconsequential difference > > > > is there unless one wants to time the event> > > > to the minute, it does not matter). > > > > Then there is difference between the values of Lat.> > > > and longitude of the same place in> > > > 2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the> > > > ascnedant which may cause difference in the> > > > Ascendant Sublord at times, though again> > > > minimal times. > > > > > > > > I normally have another way to check the Planets> > > > in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of > > > > the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the > > > > same page, you will find the 9 planets placed> > > > in their various Bhavas, which is what> > > > I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this > > > > is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look > > > > at them for the major part of my study. > > > > Suppose you visit me while I am studying a> > > > chart, and ask me suddenly what is the> > > > ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be> > > > for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would> > > > have to think before replying you.> > > > ( When you reach this stage, this would > > > > happen with you too.)> > > > > > > > Okay now coming to the point of this mail.> > > > My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,> > > > deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,> > > > and that includes yours too.If You can kindly> > > > give me your details I will post back> > > > the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the > > > > Lordships. > > > > > > > > Also remember that when you go for Placiddus > > > > system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times> > > > intercepted signs too, and thus you may> > > > have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2 > > > > Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "illusive_2" <reality_v@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at having > > > learnt > > > > a > > > > > new feature]> > > > > Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses' tag! > Yes > > > the > > > > > planets have moved ! > > > > > > > > > > But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other > software > > > to > > > > > see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime > ago > > > > > another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there > lagna > > > > > remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the same > > as > > > in > > > > > Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart! > > > > > > > > > > In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the one > > my > > > fr > > > > > made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th. Im > not > > > > sure > > > > > which is correct. > > > > > > > > > > rgds Su> > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Su,> > > > > > > > > > > > Wonderful. > > > > > > ( Sharing always makes one more learned > > > > > > and I have learnt this, new from You)> > > > > > I never knew that this option > > > > > > existed,or never gave much mind to these options> > > > > > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have> > > > > > saved me lot of time, in future,> > > > > > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any > > > > > > time when my regular Licensed software is not > > > > > > working, or away from my place.> > > > > > > > > > > > Okay now you need to do more.> > > > > > After clicking on Basics on Top.> > > > > > next clicking on Houses below,the List> > > > > > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course > > > > > > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right> > > > > > click would again give you a Drop down menu. > > > > > > Here you choose these 2 options as under.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )> > > > > > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is> > > > > > the start of the First House.> > > > > > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart > > > > > > and let me know whether it remains same,> > > > > > as the Natal Chart, > > > > > > or some planets change Houses.> > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "illusive_2" > > <reality_v@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear > > > > examples - > > > > > > it > > > > > > > was far more than what I expected!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in> > > > > > > > J.Hora ?//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down > menu > > > > > > appears. > > > > > > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see the > > > > > item 'bhava > > > > > > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra > will > > > be > > > > > > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi > chakra > > by > > > > > > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you again, Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Su,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in> > > > > > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and> > > > > > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole> > > > > > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left> > > > > > > > the rest.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Books on Bhava Chalit> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no particular books on> > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart> > > > > > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this> > > > > > > > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy> > > > > > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A small example of the difference of results between> > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is> > > > > > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a> > > > > > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if> > > > > > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,> > > > > > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native> > > > > > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on> > > > > > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow> > > > > > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native> > > > > > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have> > > > > > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,> > > > > > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in> > > > > > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter> > > > > > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit> > > > > > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?> > > > > > > > Its vanished, and the native need not> > > > > > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the> > > > > > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer> > > > > > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case> > > > > > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would> > > > > > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for> > > > > > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,> > > > > > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted> > > > > > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in> > > > > > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury> > > > > > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer> > > > > > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need> > > > > > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted> > > > > > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read> > > > > > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not> > > > > > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply> > > > > > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and> > > > > > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,> > > > > > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds,> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "illusive_2" > > > > <reality_v@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani> > > > > > > > > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/etc > on > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > use> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears > exactly > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > rasi...would tht be right?> > > > > > > > > rgds Su> > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the > chart,> > > > > > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but> > > > > > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You> > > > > > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.> > > > > > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional> > > > > > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly> > > > > > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive> > > > > > > > > > levels than their couterparts> > > > > > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "sheevani147" > > > > > > > <sheevani147@>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the > horoscope > > > you> > > > > > > > > mentioned,,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more > > > information > > > > > on > > > > > > > events> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > the person's life.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother > and > > > > > effects > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > mars> > > > > > > > > > > mercury and moon.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the > > Lagna > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very > > inauspicious > > > > as > > > > > it > > > > > > > is in> > > > > > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, > > > > > cancer/leo)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his > > > > mother,, > > > > > > > Mercury> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. > > Mercury > > > is > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > nakshatra> > > > > > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak > > > (2deg > > > > > lib)> > > > > > > > > placed> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from mars> > (marka > > > > > > effect)> > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent > > > enemies.. > > > > > > > therefore> > > > > > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it > > is > > > > > unable > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > good results.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, > > which > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > moksha> > > > > > > > > > > house..> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is > weak, > > > Moon > > > > in> > > > > > > > > Dhanista> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very > > > much > > > > > > weaken > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > explained above)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but > > > jupiter > > > > > is > > > > > > 6HL> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, > > > mercury > > > > > > 3and > > > > > > > 12HL> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th > > > > house, > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > mars,> > > > > > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani > the > > > > > > depositor > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > moon> > > > > > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from > moon..> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards> > > > > > > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , RajeevM > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > group.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but > its > > > been > > > > > > > confusing> > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > me.> > > > > > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of > > > > ascendant > > > > > > > cancer> > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955> > > > > > > > > > > > 11:20pm> > > > > > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)> > > > > > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a > > > place.> > > > > > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading > > > material > > > > > > would > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > helpful.> > > > > > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, > will > > > > there > > > > > be > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > effects of> > > > > > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having > > > > dominant > > > > > > > effect?> > > > > > > > > > Can> > > > > > > > > > > various> > > > > > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 > > > years > > > > > old.> > > > > > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury > > dasha > > > > was > > > > > > > running.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th > > dhristi > > > > and > > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > 3rd> > > > > > > > > > > > Dhristi.> > > > > > > > > > > > What is the effect.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good > > yog?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in > > 4th > > > > > house > > > > > > at > > > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > > > degree.> > > > > > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house > with > > > > mars. > > > > > > Does> > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > breaks the> > > > > > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.> > > > > > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, > > > > abortion > > > > > > etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > Your comment on this?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of > so > > > > many > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in > > 11th > > > is > > > > > > > usually> > > > > > > > > > subh.> > > > > > > > > > > What do> > > > > > > > > > > > you say for this case.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its > > > > > > debiliation> > > > > > > > > sign.> > > > > > > > > > > What is> > > > > > > > > > > > the effect?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of > > > > > exaltation > > > > > > > sign,> > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > is the> > > > > > > > > > > > effect?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what > direction > > > > does > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > give.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.> > > > > > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, > > > > Pokhraj, > > > > > > Ruby> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > Moonga?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard > and > > > > gods > > > > > > > presence> > > > > > > > > > > stays in the> > > > > > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish > looking > > > > after > > > > > > them.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions > > till > > > I > > > > > get > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more > queries, > > I > > > > > shall > > > > > > ask> > > > > > > > > > again.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay> > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Su,

 

Shri Gopuji is very right. The sign does not

change in the Bhava Chalit, but only

the Bhava ( Cusp) changes.

he is also very right about the SAV points.

Your 12th house is more active than the 11th one.

How to take advantage of this handicap, i will let

you know one of these days, please remind me.

 

Ots late here in Bombay too. Nearing midnight

and dinner has been served since long.

Need to leave now.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

 

 

 

 

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

>

>

> dear Mr su,

> I am surprised as to how ur getting juptier and saturn

> in saggitarrius. Ur lagna both in natal and bhava

> chart is aquarius, ur second and 12th lord jupiter is

> in capricorn in 12th house and debilitated along with

> saturn. ur running mars dasa upto 2009. mars is

> causing argala to th e 7th from lagna, so if ur in

> buisness it will be struggle. otherwise the mercury,

> venus and sun ,moon bhukthi will be favourable to u.

> if u apply vedic astro methods, ur 2nd lord and

> 11thlord jupiter is in 12th so whatever u earn it

> vanishes. ur 12th house has more SAV points than the

> 11th. however sri bhaskar will also provide u the

> analysis when he is free.

>

> good luck,

> k.gopu

>

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I think its slowly dawning on me what you and Gopu Sir were trying

to say. The planets bascially remain in the same signs as rasi chart,

but the bhava chart represents the shift in hse [hse number] on

account of degreecal placement and thus could give the effects of

tht 'hse no'. So now, sa/ju could act in a 'labha' way during their

active periods. [i hve to go thru my ju/sa antardashas to see what

hap during those times].

 

//On the other side Rahu moving to the 6th means trouble in the area

of health, sudden cuts and sudden ill health to you.//

 

Current mars dasha has not been helpful in the health area - I was

hoping rahu might be better...guess not, huh.. [actually I still hve

your comments on my rahu MD which you gave me sometime last yr in JG-

group. You did mention then tht finances would improve during rahu

md, but health might be troubled]

 

//Mars represents the 5th house, which means the other person (

> people ) would take advantage of You. Its is placed in

constellation of Saturn who represents the 11th and 12th house both.

This means Inflow and Outflow of Income equally //

 

About being taken advantage of..hmm, not generally - Ive become

extremely reclusive during mars dasha [perhaps just as well]. Mars 3L

in deb in nakshatra of 12L Sa, has made me a hermit of sorts. But

your are right about inflow and outflow - I am unable to save

anything - this has been particulary so since Sa's shift to Leo.

Outflow has been unstoppable since then!!

 

Thank you for taking the trouble to enlighten me on Bhava chakra.

Really, I am gratefu, I had abso no clue about bhava chakra b4 this.

 

rgds, Su

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Su,

> Both Jupiter and Saturn move from the 12th house in your Natal

Chart,

> to the 11th Bhava. This is a very positive shift, cause both

Jupiter

> and Saturn whenever they Arrive as the Dasa antardasha Lord and are

> empowered, they would represent the 11th house of gains ( They

would

> represent only the house effects they shift to, but signs do not

shift

> and Signs in which planets are placed always remain same even in

Bhava

> chart and have to be reckoned in that manner only as the Natal

chart -

> I mean characteristics of which planet placed in which sign ). . On

the

> other side Rahu moving to the 6th means trouble in the area of

health,

> sudden cuts and sudden ill health to you. Thus you may check the

> effects of any other change in your Chart, and read accordingly.

Mars

> Mahadasha. Mars represents the 5th house, which means the other

person (

> people ) would take advantage of You. Its is placed in

constellation of

> Saturn who represents the 11th and 12th house both. This means

Inflow

> and Outflow of Income equally . Current antardasha Moon

Representing

> 2nd house of wealth. and 6th house of income through profession.

> Constellationwise representing the 12th house which again shows the

> income going away in one or the other heads of expenditure . This

is

> the way to judge the Cuspal or Bhava Chalit Chart. and you would

find

> the answers to many questions hitherto unanswered. best wishes,

> Bhaskar www.shrkrishnajyotish.com

<http://www.shrkrishnajyotish.com/>

>

>

>

>

>

> , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> wrote:

> >

> > oh Bhaskar...theres no hurry at all!! Pls take your time...

> > [i ought to be in bed in any case!!]

> > rgds, Su

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Su,

> > >

> > > I am already on Your chart.

> > > Please give me half an hours time to back

> > > to you.

> > > In the meanwhile I am getting Ascendant

> > > Acquarius 14.54.30 which means that you

> > > have not changed the ayanamsha setings to Kp.

> > > They still remain at Lahiris. All your

> > > Bhava placements are absolutely correct.

> > > The Bhava Lagna would be starting from

> > > 14.54.30 Acquarius, which means that the

> > > portion behind this,that is the 14degrees

> > > prior to this has been taken up by the 12th

> > > Bhava. Which is why probably they ( J.Hora)

> > > mention Asc both up and down.

> > >

> > > will get back to you in some time.

> > > Meanwhile you may get ready with

> > > queries, if any.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " illusive_2 " <reality_v@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar, this is really weird - this morning when I opened Jh

and

> > > > looked at bhava chart the lag comes up as Aq!!! I closed and

> > > reloaded

> > > > again and it still remains as Aq. Last nite however soon

after I

> > > > tried those changes u suggested it showed up as cp...perhaps

> > > > something got stuck somewhere and readjusted itself when I

loaded

> > > it

> > > > ths morn. [if Aq is lag, then 2/11 L Ju, karaka for wealth, is

> > > ruling

> > > > in 11 with LL Sa. I should be rich, and with ve exalting in

> > > dhanstan

> > > > i should be super rich! But Im not at all rich. I currently

dont

> > > > even have a proper income! It seems my rasi chart is more in

> > > > operation with 2/11L in 12hse of loss. :)]

> > > >

> > > > However I dont quite understand the last right column

[planets in

> > > it]

> > > > below : first row has, 'As', and in the last row, its

> > says 'As,Ke'.

> > > > why does As appear twice?

> > > >

> > > > [pasted fr Jh]

> > > > House Cusp Middle End Planets

> > in

> > > it

> > > >

> > > > 1st 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " 1 Pi 23' 40.87 " 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " As

> > > > 2nd 17 Pi 59' 55.76 " 3 Ar 50' 03.65 " 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " Mo, Ve

> > > > 3rd 19 Ar 40' 11.54 " 4 Ta 03' 17.25 " 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " Su, Me

> > > > 4th 18 Ta 26' 22.97 " 2 Ge 03' 27.34 " 15 Ge 40' 31.71 "

> > > > 5th 15 Ge 40' 31.71 " 29 Ge 44' 40.33 " 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " Ma

> > > > 6th 13 Cn 48' 48.95 " 29 Cn 18' 07.46 " 14 Le 47' 25.98 " Ra, Ur,

> > Pl

> > > > 7th 14 Le 47' 25.98 " 1 Vi 23' 40.87 " 17 Vi 59' 55.76 "

> > > > 8th 17 Vi 59' 55.76 " 3 Li 50' 03.65 " 19 Li 40' 11.54 " Ne

> > > > 9th 19 Li 40' 11.54 " 4 Sc 03' 17.25 " 18 Sc 26' 22.97 "

> > > > 10th 18 Sc 26' 22.97 " 2 Sg 03' 27.34 " 15 Sg 40' 31.71 "

> > > > 11th 15 Sg 40' 31.71 " 29 Sg 44' 40.33 " 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " Ju, Sa

> > > > 12th 13 Cp 48' 48.95 " 29 Cp 18' 07.46 " 14 Aq 47' 25.98 " As, Ke

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > May 13, 1961

> > > > Time: 2:03:00 am

> > > > Time Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 101 E 42' 00 " , 3 N 10' 00 "

> > > > Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > rgds Su

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > >

> > > > > J.Hora is 99% right as to the placement

> > > > > of the planets in the Bhava is concerned.

> > > > > 1% difference may be due to Ayanamsha

> > > > > what we select, and even after we select,

> > > > > the difference in the values

> > > > > of the same Ayanamsha between 2 softwares.

> > > > > ( For ex. Kp ayanamsha also some use

> > > > > as new and some use the old one, though

> > > > > a very nominal inconsequential difference

> > > > > is there unless one wants to time the event

> > > > > to the minute, it does not matter).

> > > > > Then there is difference between the values of Lat.

> > > > > and longitude of the same place in

> > > > > 2 softwares, and this makes a difference in the

> > > > > ascnedant which may cause difference in the

> > > > > Ascendant Sublord at times, though again

> > > > > minimal times.

> > > > >

> > > > > I normally have another way to check the Planets

> > > > > in Bhava from the J.Hora. I check the column of

> > > > > the cusps 1 to 12, and in the last column of the

> > > > > same page, you will find the 9 planets placed

> > > > > in their various Bhavas, which is what

> > > > > I note down on a piece of Paper, and once this

> > > > > is done,I forget the Charts, and dont even look

> > > > > at them for the major part of my study.

> > > > > Suppose you visit me while I am studying a

> > > > > chart, and ask me suddenly what is the

> > > > > ascendant of the chart I am studying, I would be

> > > > > for a loss to reply you, for a moment and would

> > > > > have to think before replying you.

> > > > > ( When you reach this stage, this would

> > > > > happen with you too.)

> > > > >

> > > > > Okay now coming to the point of this mail.

> > > > > My Computer has been formatted a few months ago,

> > > > > deleting all the data in the Jyotish softwares,

> > > > > and that includes yours too.If You can kindly

> > > > > give me your details I will post back

> > > > > the Cuspal positions of the Planets and the

> > > > > Lordships.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also remember that when you go for Placiddus

> > > > > system or Bhava Chalit, you may have at times

> > > > > intercepted signs too, and thus you may

> > > > > have a Planet having Lordships of more than 2

> > > > > Bhavas, ar a planet having no Lordship at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " illusive_2 "

<reality_v@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lol Bhaskar, this is cool! [im childishly gleeful at

having

> > > > learnt

> > > > > a

> > > > > > new feature]

> > > > > > Ive now learnt how to use the features in the 'Houses'

tag!

> > Yes

> > > > the

> > > > > > planets have moved !

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But Bhaskar you might want to compare Jh with yr other

> > software

> > > > to

> > > > > > see if it gives same results for the Bhava chart. Sometime

> > ago

> > > > > > another fr made my bhava chart on his software and there

> > lagna

> > > > > > remains the same as rasi but the ohter planets shift the

same

> > > as

> > > > in

> > > > > > Jh here. But Jh shifts my lag as well in bhava chart!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Jh bhava chart lag is cp, putting kethu in lag. In the

one

> > > my

> > > > fr

> > > > > > made for me lag remains aq and kethu now goes into 12th.

Im

> > not

> > > > > sure

> > > > > > which is correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wonderful.

> > > > > > > ( Sharing always makes one more learned

> > > > > > > and I have learnt this, new from You)

> > > > > > > I never knew that this option

> > > > > > > existed,or never gave much mind to these options

> > > > > > > whenever watching the drop down menu. You have

> > > > > > > saved me lot of time, in future,

> > > > > > > whenever next I am watching the J.Hora at any

> > > > > > > time when my regular Licensed software is not

> > > > > > > working, or away from my place.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Okay now you need to do more.

> > > > > > > After clicking on Basics on Top.

> > > > > > > next clicking on Houses below,the List

> > > > > > > of 1-12 Cusps would appear, which of course

> > > > > > > you know.Now anywhere on this page a right

> > > > > > > click would again give you a Drop down menu.

> > > > > > > Here you choose these 2 options as under.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Placidus Houses ( KP Krishnamoorthy )

> > > > > > > 2) Ascendant or the chosen reference is

> > > > > > > the start of the First House.

> > > > > > > After doing above, check Your Bhava Chart

> > > > > > > and let me know whether it remains same,

> > > > > > > as the Natal Chart,

> > > > > > > or some planets change Houses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> > > <reality_v@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, thank yor for your kind reply with clear

> > > > > examples -

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > was far more than what I expected!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > > > > J.Hora ?//

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you right click on rasi chart on Jhora a drop down

> > menu

> > > > > > > appears.

> > > > > > > > just below the rasi chakra on the menu you will see

the

> > > > > > item 'bhava

> > > > > > > > chakra or chalit chakra'. Click on it. The rasi chakra

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > > > replaced by this chart. you can then revert to rasi

> > chakra

> > > by

> > > > > > > > clicking on 'rasi chakra' on the same menu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thank you again, Su

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Su,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > > > > > > > > J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and

> > > > > > > > > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > > > > > > > > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > > > > > > > > the rest.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There are no particular books on

> > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > > > > > > > > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > > > > > > > > book some day ). But all books related to

Krishnamurthy

> > > > > > > > > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their

usage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A small example of the difference of results between

> > > > > > > > > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > > > > > > > > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > > > > > > > > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > > > > > > > > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > > > > > > > > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > > > > > > > > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > > > > > > > > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > > > > > > > > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > > > > > > > > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > > > > > > > > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > > > > > > > > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > > > > > > > > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari

Yoga ?

> > > > > > > > > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > > > > > > > > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in

the

> > > > > > > > > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > > > > > > > > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > > > > > > > > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > > > > > > > > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > > > > > > > > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > > > > > > > > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > > > > > > > > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > > > > > > > > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has

Mercury

> > > > > > > > > in his 12th house, and has been told by the

astrologer

> > > > > > > > > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > > > > > > > > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has

shifted

> > > > > > > > > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > > > > > > > > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > > > > > > > > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > > > > > > > > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > > > > > > > > check the results as actually stated in the Natal

chart,

> > > > > > > > > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > rgrds,

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > <http://www.shrikrishnajyotish.com>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " illusive_2 "

> > > > > <reality_v@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > > > > > > > > > Would you be able to recommend some

books/sites/etc

> > on

> > > > how

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > use

> > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears

> > exactly

> > > > the

> > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > rasi...would tht be right?

> > > > > > > > > > rgds Su

> > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the

> > chart,

> > > > > > > > > > > for I have not yet made the chart in question,

but

> > > > > > > > > > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that

You

> > > > > > > > > > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.

> > > > > > > > > > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologers who learn to do this, would

certainly

> > > > > > > > > > > equip themselves very much for better p

[redictive

> > > > > > > > > > > levels than their couterparts

> > > > > > > > > > > who do not use or study this chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar

> > > > > > > > > > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

, " sheevani147 "

> > > > > > > > <sheevani147@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the

> > horoscope

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > mentioned,,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more

> > > > information

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > events

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > the person's life.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of

mother

> > and

> > > > > > effects

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > mercury and moon.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that

the

> > > Lagna

> > > > > is

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very

> > > inauspicious

> > > > > as

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > is in

> > > > > > > > > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire

signs,,

> > > > > > cancer/leo)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost

his

> > > > > mother,,

> > > > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna.

> > > Mercury

> > > > is

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka

powers)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very

weak

> > > > (2deg

> > > > > > lib)

> > > > > > > > > > placed

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > an enemy sign(venus).. Venus is in 2h from

mars

> > > (marka

> > > > > > > effect)

> > > > > > > > > > Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent

> > > > enemies..

> > > > > > > > therefore

> > > > > > > > > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars

and it

> > > is

> > > > > > unable

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > > good results.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house,

> > > which

> > > > is

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > moksha

> > > > > > > > > > > > house..

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is

> > weak,

> > > > Moon

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > Dhanista

> > > > > > > > > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars,

(very

> > > > much

> > > > > > > weaken

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > explained above)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon

but

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > 6HL

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL

sun,

> > > > mercury

> > > > > > > 3and

> > > > > > > > 12HL

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > shani 7and 8HL..

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the

6th

> > > > > house,

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > mars,

> > > > > > > > > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani

> > the

> > > > > > > depositor

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > moon

> > > > > > > > > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from

> > moon..

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sheevani

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , RajeevM

> > > > > > > <rajeevmundra@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the

email

> > > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > group.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but

> > its

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > confusing

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of

> > > > > ascendant

> > > > > > > > cancer

> > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > > > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11:20pm

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at

such a

> > > > place.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading

> > > > material

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > helpful.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min,

> > will

> > > > > there

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > effects of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is

having

> > > > > dominant

> > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > > > Can

> > > > > > > > > > > > various

> > > > > > > > > > > > > life incidents give some clues?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was

around 4

> > > > years

> > > > > > old.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury

> > > dasha

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > running.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th

> > > dhristi

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhristi.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the effect.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any

good

> > > yog?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits

in

> > > 4th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > > > > degree.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house

> > with

> > > > > mars.

> > > > > > > Does

> > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > breaks the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > auspiciousness of mars?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of

child,

> > > > > abortion

> > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Your comment on this?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects

of

> > so

> > > > > many

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet

in

> > > 11th

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > usually

> > > > > > > > > > > subh.

> > > > > > > > > > > > What do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you say for this case.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of

its

> > > > > > > debiliation

> > > > > > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the effect?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out

of

> > > > > > exaltation

> > > > > > > > sign,

> > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > is the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > effect?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what

> > direction

> > > > > does

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > give.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and

pokhraj.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be the changes & effect of

wearing,

> > > > > Pokhraj,

> > > > > > > Ruby

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moonga?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits

hard

> > and

> > > > > gods

> > > > > > > > presence

> > > > > > > > > > > > stays in the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish

> > looking

> > > > > after

> > > > > > > them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my

questions

> > > till

> > > > I

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you, after reading which if I have more

> > queries,

> > > I

> > > > > > shall

> > > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > > > again.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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If 12 hse has more SAV points, that would be better for 'moksa

sadhana'?

 

I really do wish you had put aside my chart and had dinner instead!

thank you again

regds, Su

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Su,

>

> Shri Gopuji is very right. The sign does not

> change in the Bhava Chalit, but only

> the Bhava ( Cusp) changes.

> he is also very right about the SAV points.

> Your 12th house is more active than the 11th one.

> How to take advantage of this handicap, i will let

> you know one of these days, please remind me.

>

> Ots late here in Bombay too. Nearing midnight

> and dinner has been served since long.

> Need to leave now.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

>

>

>

>

>

> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > dear Mr su,

> > I am surprised as to how ur getting juptier and saturn

> > in saggitarrius. Ur lagna both in natal and bhava

> > chart is aquarius, ur second and 12th lord jupiter is

> > in capricorn in 12th house and debilitated along with

> > saturn. ur running mars dasa upto 2009. mars is

> > causing argala to th e 7th from lagna, so if ur in

> > buisness it will be struggle. otherwise the mercury,

> > venus and sun ,moon bhukthi will be favourable to u.

> > if u apply vedic astro methods, ur 2nd lord and

> > 11thlord jupiter is in 12th so whatever u earn it

> > vanishes. ur 12th house has more SAV points than the

> > 11th. however sri bhaskar will also provide u the

> > analysis when he is free.

> >

> > good luck,

> > k.gopu

> >

>

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dear su,

ur having jupiter and saturn in the 12th in the natal

chart so both can lead u to the path of moksha. if u

analyse u will find that earning money has no meaning

if it doesnt fulfils the material needs of the present

day world. so ur 12th house has more points than the

11th which means money doesnt stay with u. it goes off

so naturally this situation can also alter the mind of

a person and make him seek to the path of moksha. ie

partial renunciation due to circumstances.

 

good luck,

k.gopu

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Dear Bhaskarjee

 

I wish to Kindly request you to my name from your Mailing List.

Warm Regards

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Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008 8:27:30 AM Re: bhava chalit

 

 

Dear Su,

Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit inJ.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and never actually had enough time to explore the wholesite, just looked at my own requirement and left the rest.

Books on Bhava Chalit

There are no particular books onBhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chartand Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthypadhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

A small example of the difference of results between Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury isin the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But ifin Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house, and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,onthe contrary the Native will always have outflow of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the nativewould be told by astrologers that he will have superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,because these astrologers do not go deep instudying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?Its vanished, and the native need notfeel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in theascendant and is been told by his family astrologer that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this caseknown as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet wouldbe in the air all his Life and would be waiting forthe Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,which would never happen, if the Mercury has shiftedto the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

4) Alternatively, if we take the first example inthe above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercuryin his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologerthat he will never rise above the ordinary, now neednot feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shiftedto the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

Now when you have read the above examples and readthe essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need nothave to search or buy any books, just applythese princoiples to every chart you encounter, and check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

rgrds,Bhaskar. www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

 

 

 

 

, "illusive_2" <reality_v@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani> Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/ etc on how to use > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same as > rasi...would tht be right?> rgds Su> , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Sheevaniji,> > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,> > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but> > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You> > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.> > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional> > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly> > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive> > levels than their

couterparts> > who do not use or study this chart.> > > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar> > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com> > > > > > > > , "sheevani147" <sheevani147@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,> > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you > mentioned,,> > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on events > > in > > > the person's life. > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of > mars > > > mercury and moon.> > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in the >

4th > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it is in > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)> > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,, Mercury > is > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in > > nakshatra > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)> > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)> placed > > in > > > an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect) > Mars > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies.. therefore > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to > give > > > good results.> > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in

4th house, which is a moksha > > > house..> > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in > Dhanista > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken as > > > explained above)> > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL > and > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL > > and > > > shani 7and 8HL..> > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with > mars, > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of > > moon > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..> > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..> > > > > > warmest

regards> > > Sheevani> > > > > > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the group.> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.> > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been confusing > > for > > > me.> > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer > > which > > > after> > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.> > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955> > > > 11:20pm> > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)> > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.> >

> > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.> > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would be > > > helpful.> > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be more > > > effects of> > > > leo or cancer or mixed?> > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant effect? > > Can > > > various> > > > life incidents give some clues?> > > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.> > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.> > > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA> > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects

with 4th dhristi and Saturn > > with > > > 3rd> > > > Dhristi.> > > > What is the effect.> > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2 > > > degree.> > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.> > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does > this > > > breaks the> > > > auspiciousness of mars?> > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.> > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.> > > > Your comment on this?> > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects

of so many lord in > > 5th > > > house> > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.> > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is usually > > subh. > > > What do> > > > you say for this case.> > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation > sign. > > > What is> > > > the effect?> > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign, > > what > > > is the> > > > effect?> > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this > give.> > > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.> > > > What

would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby > and > > > Moonga?> > > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence > > > stays in the> > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.> > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.> > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get some > > reply > > > from> > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask > > again.> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay> > > > Rajeev> > > >> > >> >>

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, Ravindra Bhagwat <rvbhagwat2004 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarjee>  > I wish to Kindly request you to my name from your Mailing List. > Warm Regards> Ravindra  >  > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Wednesday, 18 June, 2008 8:27:30 AM> Re: bhava chalit> > > Dear Su,> Bhava Chalit in J.Hora > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in> J.Hora ? because I am not aware about this, and > never actually had enough time to explore the whole> site, just looked at my own requirement and left > the rest.> Books on Bhava Chalit> There are no particular books on> Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart> and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy> padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage. > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .> A small example of the difference of results between > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -> 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is> in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if> in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house, > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on> the contrary the Native will always have outflow > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native> would be told by astrologers that he will have > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,> because these astrologers do not go deep in> studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ). > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?> Its vanished, and the native need not> feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.> 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the> ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case> known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would> be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for> the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,> which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted> to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.> 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in> the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury> in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer> that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need> not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted> to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart. > Now when you have read the above examples and read> the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not> have to search or buy any books, just apply> these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,> and as actually happenning in the natives Life. > rgrds,> Bhaskar. > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com>  >  >  >  > > , "illusive_2" reality_v@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani> > Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/ etc on how to use > > bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears exactly the same as > > rasi...would tht be right?> > rgds Su> > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sheevaniji,> > > > > > I have not read your analysis connecting to the chart,> > > for I have not yet made the chart in question, but> > > a cursory glance on your analysis shows me that You> > > are using the Bhava chalit in your analysis.> > > This makes me extremely happy. Those traditional> > > astrologers who learn to do this, would certainly> > > equip themselves very much for better p[redictive> > > levels than their couterparts> > > who do not use or study this chart.> > > > > > best wishes,> > > Bhaskar> > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com> > > > > > > > > > > > , "sheevani147" <sheevani147@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rajeev ji,> > > > > > > > Namaste.> > > > > > > > May I just offer you some thoughts on the horoscope you > > mentioned,,> > > > > > > > For birthtime rectification , you need more information on events > > > in > > > > the person's life. > > > > > > > > I am mainly concentrating on the loss of mother and effects of > > mars > > > > mercury and moon.> > > > > > > > Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly notice that the Lagna is in the > > 4th > > > > pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which is very inauspicious as it is in > > > > gandanta status (junction of water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)> > > > > > > > During mars and mercury period, native lost his mother,, Mercury > > is > > > > 12L and lord of 3H, hence malefic for lagna. Mercury is in > > > nakshatra > > > > of Jupiter, who is placed in the 2H (marka powers)> > > > > > > > Mars is yogkarka for this lagna, but is very weak (2deg lib)> > placed > > > in > > > > an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is in 2h from mars(marka effect) > > Mars > > > > and mercury are also temperory and permanent enemies.. therefore > > > > bitter enemies. All this is crippling mars and it is unable to > > give > > > > good results.> > > > > > > > Both mars and mercury are placed in 4th house, which is a moksha > > > > house..> > > > > > > > Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose lord Shani is weak, Moon in > > Dhanista > > > > nakshatra, whose lord and sub lord is mars, (very much weaken as > > > > explained above)> > > > > > > > In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL > > and > > > > 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted, marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL > > > and > > > > shani 7and 8HL..> > > > > > > > In Navamsha, moon is with ketu and sun in the 6th house, with > > mars, > > > > the nakshatra lord of moon placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of > > > moon > > > > is placed in the 5H, which is 12th house from moon..> > > > > > > > Hope that answers some of your questions..> > > > > > > > warmest regards> > > > Sheevani> > > > > > > > , RajeevM <rajeevmundra@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > As per your instruction, I am sending the email to the group.> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > > > > > > > > I need help from you on one chart.> > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to analyze this chart but its been confusing > > > for > > > > me.> > > > > One big source of confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer > > > which > > > > after> > > > > just 1 min changes from cancer to leo.> > > > > > > > > > 21-Nov-1955> > > > > 11:20pm> > > > > Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)> > > > > Time zone: 6:00 East of GMT.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatis the effect of ascendant being at such a place.> > > > > and how to analyze such charts. Any reading material would be > > > > helpful.> > > > > Since Leo lagna is going to start in 1 min, will there be more > > > > effects of> > > > > leo or cancer or mixed?> > > > > > > > > > Also how do we determine which lagna is having dominant effect? > > > Can > > > > various> > > > > life incidents give some clues?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native lost his mother was he was around 4 years old.> > > > > At which time mangal maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I take CANCER LAGNA> > > > > Moon is in 7th house. Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and Saturn > > > with > > > > 3rd> > > > > Dhristi.> > > > > What is the effect.> > > > > > > > > > Does the dhristi of Mars on Moon cause any good yog?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is lord of 10th and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2 > > > > degree.> > > > > I think mars is a strong raj yog karak.> > > > > > > > > > Mercury (12Lord and 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does > > this > > > > breaks the> > > > > auspiciousness of mars?> > > > > > > > > > Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in 5th house.> > > > > But in this case, there was no loss of child, abortion etc.> > > > > Your comment on this?> > > > > > > > > > What is the individual and combined effects of so many lord in > > > 5th > > > > house> > > > > which is ruled by mars in this case.> > > > > > > > > > Ketu in 11th house. I read that any planet in 11th is usually > > > subh. > > > > What do> > > > > you say for this case.> > > > > > > > > > Sun is at 5 degrees in Scorpio, just out of its debiliation > > sign. > > > > What is> > > > > the effect?> > > > > > > > > > Saturn is at 1 degree in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign, > > > what > > > > is the> > > > > effect?> > > > > > > > > > Rahu in 5th house with sa, su, ve, what direction does this > > give.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Native is wearing Blue sapphire and pokhraj.> > > > > What would be the changes & effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby > > and > > > > Moonga?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said, that misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence > > > > stays in the> > > > > house of people who have a great jyotish looking after them.> > > > > > > > > > With this in mind, I have put my questions.> > > > > > > > > > I could ask more, but will defer my questions till I get some > > > reply > > > > from> > > > > you, after reading which if I have more queries, I shall ask > > > again.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivay> > > > > Rajeev> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.

 

In the methods/principles enunciated by SJC, I read somewhere that Bhava/Chalit

concepts are not something we consider. This means Rasi = Bhava. So if you are

using the methods and principles of SJC, you simply consider Rasi = Bhava for

all computations of Arudhas, Varnadas etc. This is my understanding. I believe

PVR Narasimharao states this quite clearly in his book. I am open to correction

in my understanding.

 

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