bhava chalit

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Somnath,

Namaskar.

What you say is not the case.

The Bhāva Chakra is used in this tradition, but its usage is clearly

differentiated from the use of the normal Rāśi or Bhava chakra. Note

the

difference in wording between Bhava (short a) and Bhāva (long ā). The

former

refers to the Rāśis and the latter to the houses.

The Bhāva

chakra is drawn with reference to the Lagna degree and spans fifteen

degrees

before and after the specific degree, regardless of the boundaries of

the Rāśis.

Herein we define the first use of this chakra, namely that it

disregards the creation

that God has founded. Therefore also the use of the Bhāva chakra is a

self-centric view of the universe from the perspective of the

individual but it

is not true as it disregards what God has created... the Rāśis.

Draw all

the following house boundaries the same way that you did the boundaries

of the

Lagna. With this you may get a completely new chart, where the Grahas

may fall

in a Bhāva before or after the initial placement. If the Lagna is

closer to the

middle of the sign (fifteen degrees) the differences between the Bhāva

chakra

and the Bhava chakra (again notice the short a) may not exist. This

leads us to

the second definition of the Bhāva chakra. The close the Lagna is to

the beginning

or end of the sign, the more the personal perception of the native

differs from

the actual reality indicated in the Rāśis. This is due to a flaw in the

natives

intelligence from past lives, and can be corrected by reciting the

Gayatri

Mantra. Hence this is the best remedy for all flaws in the

intelligence. For

this reason also the placement of the Lagna in Sandhi or Gaṇḍānta is

considered

highly inauspicious.

As a

difference exists between the perception and reality in this case, the

native

due to their perception may act in a way which is detrimental towards

other aspects

of their life.

Here

is given the chart of Marilyn Monroe (1st June 1926, 9:30

AM, 118:15

West, 34:4 North). In the Bhāva Chalit Chakra given on the far right,

the only

difference existing is the placement of Jupiter in the eighth vs.

seventh

house. This makes up for a

significant change in our predictions for Ms. Monroe. In her Rāśi chart

the ninth

lord is in the eighth house which should give effects of: bhāgyahīna

(devoid of fortune including problems in marriage especially for

ladies) and jyeṣṭhabhrātṛsukhaṁ

naiva (devoid of happiness from elder brother). This is what is

supposed to

happen. But now see that in the bhāva chakra that Jupiter has gone to

the

seventh house. The effects which she will perceive to be true are: dārayogāt

sukhodaya (happiness upon marriage), guṇavān (endowed with

virtues)

and kīrtimān (endowed with fame).

Whilst

she did get fame on account of ninth lord joined the tenth lord Mars in

the

eighth house, the problem is that she was confident that this had to be

defined

by her relationships (seventh house). As a result of which she got

married

thrice and it was even suspected that one such relationship was the

cause of

her demise due to an affair (Jupiter-married man).

I hope

this clarifies the use of the Bhāva Chalit Chakra.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer)

www: www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

Somnath skrev:

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.

 

In the methods/principles enunciated by SJC, I read somewhere that

Bhava/Chalit concepts are not something we consider. This means Rasi =

Bhava. So if you are using the methods and principles of SJC, you

simply consider Rasi = Bhava for all computations of Arudhas, Varnadas

etc. This is my understanding. I believe PVR Narasimharao states this

quite clearly in his book. I am open to correction in my understanding.

 

Somnath

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.

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Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.

Dear Vistiji,

 

What an awesome explanation!!! I am so overwhelmed. Thanks so much for

enlightening me.

 

Like so many in this group, I am a great fan of Pandit Rath, Shri Poddar, Shri

PVR Narasimha, and yourself (among other gurus from SJC).

 

In particular, your website www.srigaruda.com with all your audio lectures and

articles has greatly enlightened me! We are blessed to have Pandit Rath and you

among his disciples make such an extraordinary contribution to Vedic Astrology

that helps so many of us globally.

 

I had posted a couple of questions on your website as well as on Jaiminisjc.

Whenever you have the time, please enlighten us.

 

Thanks very much,

 

Somnath

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.

[Guest guest]

NAMASKAR VISTIJI,

PLZ RESPOND TO MY ANALYSIS.

THANKS

 

 

 

pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 Sent: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009 6:06:50 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Bhava chalit

 

NAMASKAR VISTIJI,

JUPITER ANALYSIS:

IN THE RASI CHART,BHAVAADIPATHI OF 7th HOUSE IS IN 12 POSITION FROM THE SAME HOUSE SO IT MAY CREATE DISPUTES IN MARRIAGE,PARNERSHIP BUT AS IN BHAVA CHAKRA IT IS IN HIS OWN HOUSE THESE WOULD CERTAINLY HELP HIM IN MATTER OF MARRIAGE,PARNERSHIP ETC.

SUN ANALYSIS:

IN THE RASI CHAKRA,BHAVAADIPATHI OF 12th HOUSE IS IN 12 FROM THE SAME HOUSE DENOTING THAT THERE MAY BE SEVERE LOSSES IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT BUT IN BHAVA CHAKRA IT IS IN OWN HOUSE DENOTING THAT THERE MAY BE LOSSES BUT NOT SEVERE.

This is my analysis.Correct me if am wrong or Plz ellaborate this.

 

 

 

Visti Larsen <visti Sent: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009 4:09:53 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Bhava chalit

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Pankaj, Namaskar.Please follow in my footsteps and quote the results for these placements based on Parasara's Hora Shastra. Then I can correct your work if need be.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti pankaj bansal skrev:

 

DEAR VISTIJI,PLZ EXPLAIN THE ANALYSIS?I AM WAITING FOR THAT?

THANKS

 

 

pankaj bansal <pankaj_bansal19 Sent: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009 12:43:15 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Bhava chalit

 

DEAR VISTIJI,could you plz explain the same process for this chart as in this case,jup. is in 6th house in rasi chart n 7th in bhava chart and sun is in 11 house in rasi n 12th in bhava chart?details:

dob:12/aug/1986

place:gwalior(madhya pradesh)india

78 E10 ' 00",26 N 13' 00"

TIME:08:43 AM

WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY

THANKS

 

 

 

Visti Larsen <visti Sent: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009 12:00:52 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Bhava chalit

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Somnath, Namaskar.What you say is not the case.The BhÄva Chakra is used in this tradition, but its usage is clearly differentiated from the use of the normal RÄÅ›i or Bhava chakra. Note the difference in wording between Bhava (short a) and BhÄva (long Ä). The former refers to the RÄÅ›is and the latter to the houses.

The BhÄva chakra is drawn with reference to the Lagna degree and spans fifteen degrees before and after the specific degree, regardless of the boundaries of the RÄÅ›is. Herein we define the first use of this chakra, namely that it disregards the creation that God has founded. Therefore also the use of the BhÄva chakra is a self-centric view of the universe from the perspective of the individual but it is not true as it disregards what God has created... the RÄÅ›is.

Draw all the following house boundaries the same way that you did the boundaries of the Lagna. With this you may get a completely new chart, where the Grahas may fall in a BhÄva before or after the initial placement. If the Lagna is closer to the middle of the sign (fifteen degrees) the differences between the BhÄva chakra and the Bhava chakra (again notice the short a) may not exist. This leads us to the second definition of the BhÄva chakra. The close the Lagna is to the beginning or end of the sign, the more the personal perception of the native differs from the actual reality indicated in the RÄÅ›is. This is due to a flaw in the natives intelligence from past lives, and can be corrected by reciting the Gayatri Mantra. Hence this is the best remedy for all flaws in the intelligence. For this reason also the placement of the Lagna in Sandhi or Gaṇá¸Änta is considered highly inauspicious.

As a difference exists between the perception and reality in this case, the native due to their perception may act in a way which is detrimental towards other aspects of their life.

Here is given the chart of Marilyn Monroe (1st June 1926, 9:30 AM, 118:15 West, 34:4 North). In the BhÄva Chalit Chakra given on the far right, the only difference existing is the placement of Jupiter in the eighth vs. seventh house. This makes up for a significant change in our predictions for Ms. Monroe. In her RÄÅ›i chart the ninth lord is in the eighth house which should give effects of: bhÄgyahÄ«na (devoid of fortune including problems in marriage especially for ladies) and jyeṣṭhabhrÄtá¹›sukhaá¹ naiva (devoid of happiness from elder brother). This is what is supposed to happen. But now see that in the bhÄva chakra that Jupiter has gone to the seventh house. The effects which she will perceive to be true are: dÄrayogÄt sukhodaya (happiness upon marriage),

guṇavÄn (endowed with virtues) and kÄ«rtimÄn (endowed with fame).

Whilst she did get fame on account of ninth lord joined the tenth lord Mars in the eighth house, the problem is that she was confident that this had to be defined by her relationships (seventh house). As a result of which she got married thrice and it was even suspected that one such relationship was the cause of her demise due to an affair (Jupiter-married man).

I hope this clarifies the use of the BhÄva Chalit Chakra.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiSomnath skrev:

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.In the methods/principles enunciated by SJC, I read somewhere that Bhava/Chalit concepts are not something we consider. This means Rasi = Bhava. So if you are using the methods and principles of SJC, you simply consider Rasi = Bhava for all computations of Arudhas, Varnadas etc. This is my understanding. I believe PVR Narasimharao states this quite clearly in his book. I am open to correction in my understanding.SomnathOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. Om Namo Narayanaya Namaha.

 

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