Re:

April 28, 2008

YOUR RIGHT CLARIFICATION IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED.

THANKS MILLION

I APOLOGIUZE FOR ANY MY LAYMAN HUMAN MISTAKE.

PLEASE LET ME XMA(FORGIVE).

I KNOW I DON'T HAVE RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING TO ANYONE.BUT MINE POTENTIAL ARE

SOMUCH HIGH AS FAR AS SKILL & PLACE IS CONCERN BUT DIDN'T WORKOUT I HAVE TO WORK

WITH VERY LOW PROFILE.

SPECIALLY I TOO MUCH TENSE COA OF I HAVE 7 YRS OLD DAUGHTER WHOSE CARE HAS

BEEN TAKEN BY ME ONLY.SO FOR HER FUTURE I AM SO MUCH WORRIED.PERSONLLY I DO NOT

WANT ANY LUXURY OR SMOOTHENING BUT SHE IS IN VERY DIFFERNET WORLD & TIME WHERE

MONEY IS ALSO PART.

ONCE AGAIN I AM SO SORRY.

HIGHLY THANKFULL FOR YOUR RIGHT ADVICE & CLARIFICATION.

PRANAM WITH XMA

Pankaj Upadhyay <sai_jyotish wrote:

Dear Friend

melafic influence on the lagna and kendra is the major cause behind

the worries and sufferings, Lagna lord jupiter is in lagna but in

weak position , and the effects are being dominated by the saturn

and mars, Mars is the 12th house lord connected with the saturn who

is the 2nd house lord , this combination is not considered good for

the money matters, Here i advise to wear a good yellow sapphire , if

ur pocket permits, otherwise follow the following,

1. recite mahalaxmi ashtakam 3 times daily basis (morning, afternoon

and evening)

2. keep fastings on thursday,

3. every monday perform shiv abhishek, by own at ur home.

4. Visit sai mandir/ dutt mandir every thursday.

Present transit of jupiter from the lagna will surely bring some

good news for growth/promotion /money matters before nov-08.

Pankaj Upadhyay,

Indore

, sunad kant

<sukant71 wrote:

>

> I have to say sorry but I send 2-3 times my query while I have

seen mostly you reply to everyone why not to me that was highly

affect me.

>

> Its ok

>

> Samay se pehle kuch nahi hota fir bhi aam aadmi hu

>

> my details are

>

> DOB 2/2/960 Time 5.22AM Place Mahuva,Bhavnagar

>

> pls let me know when my financial position will imorve or whole

life I have to pass hand to mouth with tension.

>

> Thanks

>

> Sukant

>

> Pankaj Upadhyay <sai_jyotish wrote:

> No one is known to me in the group , nor I have any

personal interest with anybody, my personal interest is only to

study jyotisha and helping every individual who come acorss to me.

You can write back to me with ur details , desired query I will

surely try to reply that, at last I am sorry I my ignorance or busy

schedule has touched u.

>

> sunad kant <sukant71 wrote:

>

> Respected Pankajjaji

>

> Aap harek ek ko help karte ho.Muze lagta hai koi to vajh hogi jo

aap muze nahi kar shakte.

> Maine pehle bhi aap ko 3-4 bar meri details bheji hai.

>

> Xma karna.

>

> Par lemen like to come to the expert like you.

>

> Ok

>

> jo hota hai woh bhi accha hai hoga woh bhi acchha hoga etc.

>

> but finally we are humanbeing sahansilta nahi hoti tabhi aap jaise

maharathi ka guidance help ki jarurat hoti hai.

>

> K

>

> Sukant

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

May 26, 2008

|| Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om,

Dear Grover ,

Kindly visit following iink to order

http://loger.com/books.asp

with regards,

OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS

-----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."--

-

Ravinder Grover

Cc: hanskpvedic

Monday, May 26, 2008 11:12 AM

26th May 2008

Dear all

I wish to buy KP books by Chandrakant Bhatt. Can anybody suggest from where I can get those online?

Thanks

Ravinder Grover

May 26, 2008

27th May 2008

Dear Swami ji

Many thanks

RG

On Behalf Of swami

Monday, May 26, 2008 7:23 PM

Re:

|| Om Gurave

Namah ||

Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah

Hari Om,

Dear Grover ,

Kindly visit following iink to order

http://loger.com/books.asp

with regards,

OM TATSAT

------------------------

Swami_RCS

-----------------------

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has

created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

--

-

Ravinder

Grover

Cc: hanskpvedic

Monday, May 26, 2008 11:12 AM

26th May

2008

Dear all

I wish to buy KP

books by Chandrakant Bhatt. Can anybody suggest from where I can get

those online?

Thanks

Ravinder Grover

May 28, 2008

Respected Gurujan,

Now a days lot of TV channels are showing astrology programs in the night

from 12:00 am onwards almost all the news channels are having this program.

In yesterdays program on Live India TV one Jyotshi told that if Rahu is

in the second house, or Pnacham or 11 th house there are chances of finding

Gupt dhana. Everyone is Interested to know more about. Can anybody

enlighten in this regard. Also I am interested in my horoscope any gupt

dhana is possible.

my birth data is as follows,

DOB 9/9/1963

TOB between 21:45 to 22:45 not very sure.

POB Hubli Karntaka

In my rashi chart Rahu is in second house. Will I get the gupt dhana??

My humble request to study my chart and please advise regarding my career.

Facing financial problems. Not able to earn enough to give a sober life.

Many times I try hard a get a good position also. But associations last for

few months even though I have a good repo with my bosses. It was also

predicted before that I will be doing good after Oct 2009. Please help me.

Thanks in advance.

SgS

May 28, 2008

sgs,

WHAT U SEE IN TV OR PRESS IS MORE A EDUCATION/PROPOGANDA OF SOME CONCEPTS AND

THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN THAT MEETS THE EYE OTHER

ADDEDED FACTORS WILL BE THERE FOR GOOD OR BAD ANYTIME

RESLT LATER

SGS <sholapure wrote:

Respected Gurujan,

Now a days lot of TV channels are showing astrology programs in the night

from 12:00 am onwards almost all the news channels are having this program.

In yesterdays program on Live India TV one Jyotshi told that if Rahu is

in the second house, or Pnacham or 11 th house there are chances of finding

Gupt dhana. Everyone is Interested to know more about. Can anybody

enlighten in this regard. Also I am interested in my horoscope any gupt

dhana is possible.

my birth data is as follows,

DOB 9/9/1963

TOB between 21:45 to 22:45 not very sure.

POB Hubli Karntaka

In my rashi chart Rahu is in second house. Will I get the gupt dhana??

My humble request to study my chart and please advise regarding my career.

Facing financial problems. Not able to earn enough to give a sober life.

Many times I try hard a get a good position also. But associations last for

few months even though I have a good repo with my bosses. It was also

predicted before that I will be doing good after Oct 2009. Please help me.

Thanks in advance.

SgS

May 29, 2008

Dear Mee Shuba Vela

Thank u very much Sir.

I am eagerly waiting for your analysis.

Thank u in advance.

sgs

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Mee Shuba Vela

Wednesday, 28 May, 2008 10:23 PM

vedic astrology

RE: [vedic astrology]

sgs,

WHAT U SEE IN TV OR PRESS IS MORE A EDUCATION/PROPOGANDA OF SOME CONCEPTS

AND THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN THAT MEETS THE EYE OTHER

ADDEDED FACTORS WILL BE THERE FOR GOOD OR BAD ANYTIME

RESLT LATER

SGS <sholapure <sholapure%40aol.in> > wrote:

Respected Gurujan,

Now a days lot of TV channels are showing astrology programs in the night

from 12:00 am onwards almost all the news channels are having this program.

In yesterdays program on Live India TV one Jyotshi told that if Rahu is

in the second house, or Pnacham or 11 th house there are chances of finding

Gupt dhana. Everyone is Interested to know more about. Can anybody

enlighten in this regard. Also I am interested in my horoscope any gupt

dhana is possible.

my birth data is as follows,

DOB 9/9/1963

TOB between 21:45 to 22:45 not very sure.

POB Hubli Karntaka

In my rashi chart Rahu is in second house. Will I get the gupt dhana??

My humble request to study my chart and please advise regarding my career.

Facing financial problems. Not able to earn enough to give a sober life.

Many times I try hard a get a good position also. But associations last for

few months even though I have a good repo with my bosses. It was also

predicted before that I will be doing good after Oct 2009. Please help me.

Thanks in advance.

SgS

June 17, 2008

Respected Livia Ji,Welcome to the group of Lalkitab Students. I understand that you are having all the Hindi transliterations of Lalkitabs. If you have not any of these books you can get them from(1). Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan-1939

Transliterated By Pt. VM GoswamiSagar Publications72,Janpath, Ved MansionNew Delhi 110001(2). Lal Kitab Ke Armaan-1940Transliterated By Pt. VM GoswamiHimachal Publications123, Lajpat Nagar, Sahibabad,

UP 201005Ph: 9891911582(3). Lal Kitab, Teesra hissa-1941 (Gutka)Transliterated by : Yograj PrabhakarPublished by : Rahul Computers1st floor, Master press buildingSheran wala Gate, PatialaPh: 0175-5008675 ; 9876930229

(4) Lalkitab -1942 : No good transliteration is available in the market.We have uploaded the best transliterated book available so far, in group website http://.1sthost.org. Please note that this book has errors, but still serve the purpose of reading.

(5) Lalkitab - 19521) You can download three volume Hindi transliteration from the above website. This is the best available 1952 transliteration and can be termed as 90% correct barring some missing paras. But this can be referred to for reading.

I don't recommend for printing of the downloaded material as these have dim printing and small font but you can read on computer screen.2). Arun Sanhita (Translation

of 1952 edition)Published by Hare Krishna TrustPO Box 123 , Chandigarh 160 017This

is almost 75% correct translation of 1952 edition of Lal and not a bad

book to start with as long as an authentic transliteration is not

available.First of all start with 1939 book after applying correction given in 1940 book and then 1940, then 1941 so on. You can put any query relating to these books in case of any difficulty in understanding meaning.

We have in group, students of different levels of studies. Some are practicing astrologers, some have read all the books, some are busy in solving the logics of remedies.Asking remedies is prohibited in the group. But one can free to discuss remedial measures, provided that these are supported by rules of Lalkitab.

The group have Achieved the following goals so far:1. Providing online reading facility of all the five original books. These books are kept by astrologers in their safe.and they did not allow it have the light of the sun. Sh. Yog Raj Prabhakar Ji has provided the scanned copies these books free to all students of Lalkitab.

2. With efforts of the group, A project was started to encourage the astrologers/publishers to get these books word to word , line by line, page by page true hindi transliteration of original Urdu books so that the Hindi readers can get the full flavor & reading pleasure of original texts. So far we have achieved success in three books. Remaining books may be out in year or so.

Presently the group members are busy in studying these texts and discuss the books with the help os all the modern means like Telephone, E -Chat, mail, egroup & group chat.You are welcome to discuss any of the topic of The Lalkitab.

Wish you a happy discussions here.RegardsNirmal Kumar BhardwajOn Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:16 PM, livia tandon <liviatandon wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just want to know whats new our group is doing in order to keep the

research going.Actually i am new to the group and is unable to decide

where to start.So,please help me to start and be an active member.

Regards,

Livia

June 19, 2008

Dear Bhasker ji,

Pls predict about my Business of Steel scrap and Copper Or I should be in

Construction Business?

My date of birth is 04/12/1969

time 5:15am

place Meerut

Pls let me know what is good for me Business or Service.

Regards

Dinesh

--- On Tue, 6/17/08, Jove <esstar2007 wrote:

> Jove <esstar2007

> Re: Re: bhava chalit

>

> Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 8:55 PM

> Bhasker JI,

> & nbsp;

> Thanks for this useful information, please & nbsp;WRITE

> in detail about bhave chalit IF POSSIBLE.

> & nbsp;

> Thanks with & nbsp; & nbsp;Regards

>

> --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Bhaskar

> & lt;bhaskar_jyotish & gt; wrote:

>

> Bhaskar & lt;bhaskar_jyotish & gt;

> Re: bhava chalit

>

> Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 7:57 PM

>

Dear Su,

> Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> J.Hora ? & nbsp; because I am not aware about this, and

> never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> the rest.

> Books on Bhava Chalit

> There are no particular books on

> Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> A small example of the difference of results between

> Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> would be told by astrologers that he will have

> superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> because these astrologers do not go deep in

> studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> Its vanished, and the native need not

> feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> Now when you have read the above examples and read

> the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> have to search or buy any books, just apply

> these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> rgrds,

> Bhaskar.

> www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> & nbsp;

>

> ,

> " illusive_2 " & lt;reality_v@.. . & gt;

> wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> & gt; Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/

> etc on how to use

> & gt; bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears

> exactly the same as

> & gt; rasi...would tht be right?

> & gt; rgds Su

> & gt; ,

> " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> & gt; wrote:

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; Dear Sheevaniji,

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; I have not read your analysis connecting

> to the chart,

> & gt; & gt; for I have not yet made the chart in

> question, but

> & gt; & gt; a cursory glance on your analysis shows

> me that You

> & gt; & gt; are using the Bhava chalit in your

> analysis.

> & gt; & gt; This makes me extremely happy. Those

> traditional

> & gt; & gt; astrologers who learn to do this, would

> certainly

> & gt; & gt; equip themselves very much for better

> p[redictive

> & gt; & gt; levels than their couterparts

> & gt; & gt; who do not use or study this chart.

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; best wishes,

> & gt; & gt; Bhaskar

> & gt; & gt; www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; ,

> " sheevani147 " & lt;sheevani147@ & gt;

> & gt; & gt; wrote:

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Rajeev ji,

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Namaste.

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; May I just offer you some

> thoughts on the horoscope you

> & gt; mentioned,,

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; For birthtime rectification ,

> you need more information on events

> & gt; & gt; in

> & gt; & gt; & gt; the person's life.

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; I am mainly concentrating on the

> loss of mother and effects of

> & gt; mars

> & gt; & gt; & gt; mercury and moon.

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly

> notice that the Lagna is in the

> & gt; 4th

> & gt; & gt; & gt; pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which

> is very inauspicious as it is in

> & gt; & gt; & gt; gandanta status (junction of

> water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; During mars and mercury period,

> native lost his mother,, Mercury

> & gt; is

> & gt; & gt; & gt; 12L and lord of 3H, hence

> malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> & gt; & gt; nakshatra

> & gt; & gt; & gt; of Jupiter, who is placed in the

> 2H (marka powers)

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Mars is yogkarka for this lagna,

> but is very weak (2deg lib)

> & gt; placed

> & gt; & gt; in

> & gt; & gt; & gt; an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is

> in 2h from mars(marka effect)

> & gt; Mars

> & gt; & gt; & gt; and mercury are also temperory

> and permanent enemies.. therefore

> & gt; & gt; & gt; bitter enemies. All this is

> crippling mars and it is unable to

> & gt; give

> & gt; & gt; & gt; good results.

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Both mars and mercury are placed

> in 4th house, which is a moksha

> & gt; & gt; & gt; house..

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose

> lord Shani is weak, Moon in

> & gt; Dhanista

> & gt; & gt; & gt; nakshatra, whose lord and sub

> lord is mars, (very much weaken as

> & gt; & gt; & gt; explained above)

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter

> aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL

> & gt; and

> & gt; & gt; & gt; 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted,

> marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL

> & gt; & gt; and

> & gt; & gt; & gt; shani 7and 8HL..

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; In Navamsha, moon is with ketu

> and sun in the 6th house, with

> & gt; mars,

> & gt; & gt; & gt; the nakshatra lord of moon

> placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of

> & gt; & gt; moon

> & gt; & gt; & gt; is placed in the 5H, which is

> 12th house from moon..

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Hope that answers some of your

> questions..

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; warmest regards

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Sheevani

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; @

> . com, RajeevM & lt;rajeevmundra@ & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; wrote:

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; As per your

> instruction, I am sending the email to the group.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Bhaskar Ji

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I need help from you on

> one chart.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I have been trying to

> analyze this chart but its been confusing

> & gt; & gt; for

> & gt; & gt; & gt; me.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; One big source of

> confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer

> & gt; & gt; which

> & gt; & gt; & gt; after

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; just 1 min changes from

> cancer to leo.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; 21-Nov-1955

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; 11:20pm

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Time zone: 6:00 East of

> GMT.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Whatis the effect of

> ascendant being at such a place.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; and how to analyze such

> charts. Any reading material would be

> & gt; & gt; & gt; helpful.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Since Leo lagna is

> going to start in 1 min, will there be more

> & gt; & gt; & gt; effects of

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; leo or cancer or mixed?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Also how do we

> determine which lagna is having dominant effect?

> & gt; & gt; Can

> & gt; & gt; & gt; various

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; life incidents give

> some clues?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The native lost his

> mother was he was around 4 years old.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; At which time mangal

> maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; If I take CANCER LAGNA

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon is in 7th house.

> Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and Saturn

> & gt; & gt; with

> & gt; & gt; & gt; 3rd

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dhristi.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; What is the effect.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Does the dhristi of

> Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Mars is lord of 10th

> and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2

> & gt; & gt; & gt; degree.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I think mars is a

> strong raj yog karak.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Mercury (12Lord and

> 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does

> & gt; this

> & gt; & gt; & gt; breaks the

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; auspiciousness of mars?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in

> 5th house.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; But in this case, there

> was no loss of child, abortion etc.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Your comment on this?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; What is the individual

> and combined effects of so many lord in

> & gt; & gt; 5th

> & gt; & gt; & gt; house

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; which is ruled by mars

> in this case.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Ketu in 11th house. I

> read that any planet in 11th is usually

> & gt; & gt; subh.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; What do

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; you say for this case.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Sun is at 5 degrees in

> Scorpio, just out of its debiliation

> & gt; sign.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; What is

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; the effect?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Saturn is at 1 degree

> in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign,

> & gt; & gt; what

> & gt; & gt; & gt; is the

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; effect?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Rahu in 5th house with

> sa, su, ve, what direction does this

> & gt; give.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The Native is wearing

> Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; What would be the

> changes & amp; effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby

> & gt; and

> & gt; & gt; & gt; Moonga?

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; It is said, that

> misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence

> & gt; & gt; & gt; stays in the

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; house of people who

> have a great jyotish looking after them.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; With this in mind, I

> have put my questions.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I could ask more, but

> will defer my questions till I get some

> & gt; & gt; reply

> & gt; & gt; & gt; from

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; you, after reading

> which if I have more queries, I shall ask

> & gt; & gt; again.

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Om Namah Shivay

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Rajeev

> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> & gt; & gt;

> & gt;

June 19, 2008

Dear Dineshji,

You will have to call me on my personal

number 9323522663, from your personal

cell , confirm your identity,

and then have my reply.

regards,

Bhaskar.

www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

, raj sharma <playboy_4all25

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhasker ji,

> Pls predict about my Business of Steel scrap and Copper Or I should

be in Construction Business?

>

> My date of birth is 04/12/1969

> time 5:15am

> place Meerut

>

> Pls let me know what is good for me Business or Service.

>

> Regards

> Dinesh

>

> --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Jove <esstar2007 wrote:

>

> > Jove <esstar2007

> > Re: Re: bhava chalit

> >

> > Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 8:55 PM

> > Bhasker JI,

> > & nbsp;

> > Thanks for this useful information, please & nbsp;WRITE

> > in detail about bhave chalit IF POSSIBLE.

> > & nbsp;

> > Thanks with & nbsp; & nbsp;Regards

> >

> > --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Bhaskar

> > bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> > Re: bhava chalit

> >

> > Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 7:57 PM

> >

> > Dear Su,

> > Bhava Chalit in J.Hora

> > On which Page do you see the Bhava Chalit in

> > J.Hora ? & nbsp; because I am not aware about this, and

> > never actually had enough time to explore the whole

> > site, just looked at my own requirement and left

> > the rest.

> > Books on Bhava Chalit

> > There are no particular books on

> > Bhava Chalit or how to judge between Natal Chart

> > and Bhava Chalit Chart ( Probably I may write this

> > book some day ). But all books related to Krishnamurthy

> > padhaty have refrence to such Charts and their usage.

> > Examples - how to use Bhava Chalit .

> > A small example of the difference of results between

> > Bhava Chalit and Natal Chart, and how to use this -

> > 1) Suppose in Natal Chart- Leo ascendant, Mercury is

> > in the 11th with the Lagna Lord Sun. This makes a

> > superb RajYoga ( Combination ) for Wealth. But if

> > in Bhava Chalit Mercury moves to the 12th house,

> > and Sun to the 10th, then what happens ? The native

> > will earn name and fame in Life, but no money,on

> > the contrary the Native will always have outflow

> > of money more than inflow. ( Whole Life the native

> > would be told by astrologers that he will have

> > superb wealth, but actually is empty pockets,

> > because these astrologers do not go deep in

> > studying the Bhava Chalit Chart ).

> > 2) Gajakesari Yoga. Suppose in a Natal chart Jupiter

> > is in Kendra from the Moon, but if in Bhava Chalit

> > Jupiter moves away, then wheres the Gajakesari Yoga ?

> > Its vanished, and the native need not

> > feel elated whole Life about his Gajakesari Yoga.

> > 3) Now suppose one Virgo ascendant has Mercury in the

> > ascendant and is been told by his family astrologer

> > that he has a Pancha Mahapurusha Yog ( In this case

> > known as Bhadra Yoga ), this poor chaps feet would

> > be in the air all his Life and would be waiting for

> > the Maha ( Greatness ) to fructify in his Life,

> > which would never happen, if the Mercury has shifted

> > to the 2nd house in his Bhava Chalit chart.

> > 4) Alternatively, if we take the first example in

> > the above discussion, if one Leo ascendant has Mercury

> > in his 12th house, and has been told by the astrologer

> > that he will never rise above the ordinary, now need

> > not feel disappointed, if this same Mercury has shifted

> > to the 11th house in the Bhava Chalit chart.

> > Now when you have read the above examples and read

> > the essence of how to use Bhava Chalit, you need not

> > have to search or buy any books, just apply

> > these princoiples to every chart you encounter, and

> > check the results as actually stated in the Natal chart,

> > and as actually happenning in the natives Life.

> > rgrds,

> > Bhaskar.

> > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> > & nbsp;

> >

> > ,

> > " illusive_2 " reality_v@ . & gt;

> > wrote:

> > & gt;

> > & gt; Dear Bhaskar/Sheevani

> > & gt; Would you be able to recommend some books/sites/

> > etc on how to use

> > & gt; bhava chalit. My chalit chakra in JHora appears

> > exactly the same as

> > & gt; rasi...would tht be right?

> > & gt; rgds Su

> > & gt; ,

> > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@

> > & gt; wrote:

> > & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; Dear Sheevaniji,

> > & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; I have not read your analysis connecting

> > to the chart,

> > & gt; & gt; for I have not yet made the chart in

> > question, but

> > & gt; & gt; a cursory glance on your analysis shows

> > me that You

> > & gt; & gt; are using the Bhava chalit in your

> > analysis.

> > & gt; & gt; This makes me extremely happy. Those

> > traditional

> > & gt; & gt; astrologers who learn to do this, would

> > certainly

> > & gt; & gt; equip themselves very much for better

> > p[redictive

> > & gt; & gt; levels than their couterparts

> > & gt; & gt; who do not use or study this chart.

> > & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; best wishes,

> > & gt; & gt; Bhaskar

> > & gt; & gt; www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> > & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; ,

> > " sheevani147 " & lt;sheevani147@ & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; wrote:

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Rajeev ji,

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Namaste.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; May I just offer you some

> > thoughts on the horoscope you

> > & gt; mentioned,,

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; For birthtime rectification ,

> > you need more information on events

> > & gt; & gt; in

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; the person's life.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I am mainly concentrating on the

> > loss of mother and effects of

> > & gt; mars

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; mercury and moon.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Taking Cancer as lagna, firstly

> > notice that the Lagna is in the

> > & gt; 4th

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; pada of Asleesa nakshatra, which

> > is very inauspicious as it is in

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; gandanta status (junction of

> > water/fire signs,, cancer/leo)

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; During mars and mercury period,

> > native lost his mother,, Mercury

> > & gt; is

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; 12L and lord of 3H, hence

> > malefic for lagna. Mercury is in

> > & gt; & gt; nakshatra

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; of Jupiter, who is placed in the

> > 2H (marka powers)

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Mars is yogkarka for this lagna,

> > but is very weak (2deg lib)

> > & gt; placed

> > & gt; & gt; in

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; an enemy sign(venus). . Venus is

> > in 2h from mars(marka effect)

> > & gt; Mars

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; and mercury are also temperory

> > and permanent enemies.. therefore

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; bitter enemies. All this is

> > crippling mars and it is unable to

> > & gt; give

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; good results.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Both mars and mercury are placed

> > in 4th house, which is a moksha

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; house..

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon is in 7H capricorn, whose

> > lord Shani is weak, Moon in

> > & gt; Dhanista

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; nakshatra, whose lord and sub

> > lord is mars, (very much weaken as

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; explained above)

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; In bhava chalit chart, Jupiter

> > aspects Moon but jupiter is 6HL

> > & gt; and

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; 12HL. The 4H is badly afflicted,

> > marka 2HL sun, mercury 3and 12HL

> > & gt; & gt; and

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; shani 7and 8HL..

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; In Navamsha, moon is with ketu

> > and sun in the 6th house, with

> > & gt; mars,

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; the nakshatra lord of moon

> > placed in 8H. Shani the depositor of

> > & gt; & gt; moon

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; is placed in the 5H, which is

> > 12th house from moon..

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Hope that answers some of your

> > questions..

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; warmest regards

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Sheevani

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; @

> > . com, RajeevM & lt;rajeevmundra@ & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; wrote:

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; As per your

> > instruction, I am sending the email to the group.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I need help from you on

> > one chart.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I have been trying to

> > analyze this chart but its been confusing

> > & gt; & gt; for

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; me.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; One big source of

> > confusion is the degree of ascendant cancer

> > & gt; & gt; which

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; after

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; just 1 min changes from

> > cancer to leo.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; 21-Nov-1955

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; 11:20pm

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dhaka (25N33, 88E43)

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Time zone: 6:00 East of

> > GMT.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Whatis the effect of

> > ascendant being at such a place.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; and how to analyze such

> > charts. Any reading material would be

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; helpful.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Since Leo lagna is

> > going to start in 1 min, will there be more

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; effects of

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; leo or cancer or mixed?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Also how do we

> > determine which lagna is having dominant effect?

> > & gt; & gt; Can

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; various

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; life incidents give

> > some clues?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The native lost his

> > mother was he was around 4 years old.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; At which time mangal

> > maha dasha with Mercury dasha was running.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; If I take CANCER LAGNA

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Moon is in 7th house.

> > Mars aspects with 4th dhristi and Saturn

> > & gt; & gt; with

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; 3rd

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Dhristi.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; What is the effect.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Does the dhristi of

> > Mars on Moon cause any good yog?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Mars is lord of 10th

> > and 5th house and sits in 4th house at 2

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; degree.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I think mars is a

> > strong raj yog karak.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Mercury (12Lord and

> > 3Lord) also in 4th house with mars. Does

> > & gt; this

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; breaks the

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; auspiciousness of mars?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Ra, Sa, Su, VE all in

> > 5th house.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; But in this case, there

> > was no loss of child, abortion etc.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Your comment on this?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; What is the individual

> > and combined effects of so many lord in

> > & gt; & gt; 5th

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; house

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; which is ruled by mars

> > in this case.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Ketu in 11th house. I

> > read that any planet in 11th is usually

> > & gt; & gt; subh.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; What do

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; you say for this case.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Sun is at 5 degrees in

> > Scorpio, just out of its debiliation

> > & gt; sign.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; What is

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; the effect?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Saturn is at 1 degree

> > in scorpio, just out of exaltation sign,

> > & gt; & gt; what

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; is the

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; effect?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Rahu in 5th house with

> > sa, su, ve, what direction does this

> > & gt; give.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The Native is wearing

> > Blue sapphire and pokhraj.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; What would be the

> > changes & amp; effect of wearing, Pokhraj, Ruby

> > & gt; and

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Moonga?

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; It is said, that

> > misfortune doesnot hits hard and gods presence

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; stays in the

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; house of people who

> > have a great jyotish looking after them.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; With this in mind, I

> > have put my questions.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I could ask more, but

> > will defer my questions till I get some

> > & gt; & gt; reply

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; from

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; you, after reading

> > which if I have more queries, I shall ask

> > & gt; & gt; again.

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Om Namah Shivay

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Rajeev

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > & gt; & gt;

> > & gt;

>

July 16, 2008

Dear Sir,

Soon after Dec,2008 you may hope to get a job.

Regards,

jagannathan.

On 7/15/08, uday popat <uday_popat wrote:

Dear sir, my birth date is 10/10/1963my birth time is 2255hrsmy birth place is Jaipur. Kindly advise me when I will get job.uday

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July 20, 2008

Dear Sir

Kindly advise about my professional life

name:damini rajiah

dob:11 dec 1973 at 20:00 Mauritius, Indian Ocean

rgds

damini

July 21, 2008

Dear Gurujan,

>

> Charan Sparsh.

>

> I am introducing my self Gaurav Shrivastava residing in india. I am a well

> educated person. but i am facing so many problems in every front. After i

> finished my masters i searched for job almost six month. when i got the job

> my salary was very low. I belonging from a lower middle class family. My

> parents are dependent on me. My younger brother is also dependent upon me..

> Elder brother is staying in somewhere else with his wife & son. but

> unfortunately he also left job & looking for job now. I am staying with my

> wife. Responsibilities are so high thats why my salary is not enough to

> fulfill my family's needs. I am very tensed sometime. I feel very down. I

> dont know what should i do. I have already wear a yellow saphire & pearl.

>

> My Birth Detail is:

>

> Date of Birth:- 30th October 1982

> Time of Birth:- 21:21 PM

> Plce of Birth:- Indore (M.P.) india

>

> Plz help me & let me know when i get something good & about my future..

> ...

> Thanks & regards

>

> Gaurav Shrivastava

Â

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July 21, 2008

Dear Gaurav,

Perhaps members may care to take this up as a study chart. It would be

good if you could share with us your own level of understanding (of your

chart), and if you've consulted a professional astrologer in the past.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" ugiug uhu " <krishriver

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, July 21, 2008 1:15 PM

Re:

Dear Gurujan,

>

> Charan Sparsh.

>

> I am introducing my self Gaurav Shrivastava residing in india. I am a

> well

> educated person. but i am facing so many problems in every front. After

> i

> finished my masters i searched for job almost six month. when i got the

> job

> my salary was very low. I belonging from a lower middle class family.

> My

> parents are dependent on me. My younger brother is also dependent upon

> me..

> Elder brother is staying in somewhere else with his wife & son. but

> unfortunately he also left job & looking for job now. I am staying with

> my

> wife. Responsibilities are so high thats why my salary is not enough to

> fulfill my family's needs. I am very tensed sometime. I feel very down.

> I

> dont know what should i do. I have already wear a yellow saphire &

> pearl.

>

> My Birth Detail is:

>

> Date of Birth:- 30th October 1982

> Time of Birth:- 21:21 PM

> Plce of Birth:- Indore (M.P.) india

>

> Plz help me & let me know when i get something good & about my future..

> ...

> Thanks & regards

>

> Gaurav Shrivastava

July 21, 2008

Dear Wendy,

Â

Thanks for your mail. In my chart rahu is in 1 st house & in my 5th house

jupitor,sun, venus,saturn & mercury. In my 7th house Mars & ketu. & in 10th

house moon is there. venus, saturn, rahu & ketu in uchha position & sun is in

neech position. as per my knowledge. currently venus mahadasha is running. this

is the only thigs i know. I've consulted with some astrologers they said for

yellow saphire & pearl only but not satisfactory prdict my horoscope.

Â

regards,

Â

Gaurav

--- On Mon, 21/7/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote:

Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya

Re:

jyotish-vidya

Monday, 21 July, 2008, 12:24 AM

Dear Gaurav,

Perhaps members may care to take this up as a study chart. It would be

good if you could share with us your own level of understanding (of your

chart), and if you've consulted a professional astrologer in the past.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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Monday, July 21, 2008 1:15 PM

Re:

Dear Gurujan,

>

> Charan Sparsh.

>

> I am introducing my self Gaurav Shrivastava residing in india. I am a

> well

> educated person. but i am facing so many problems in every front. After

> i

> finished my masters i searched for job almost six month. when i got the

> job

> my salary was very low. I belonging from a lower middle class family.

> My

> parents are dependent on me. My younger brother is also dependent upon

> me..

> Elder brother is staying in somewhere else with his wife & son. but

> unfortunately he also left job & looking for job now. I am staying with

> my

> wife. Responsibilities are so high thats why my salary is not enough to

> fulfill my family's needs. I am very tensed sometime. I feel very down.

> I

> dont know what should i do. I have already wear a yellow saphire &

> pearl.

>

> My Birth Detail is:

>

> Date of Birth:- 30th October 1982

> Time of Birth:- 21:21 PM

> Plce of Birth:- Indore (M.P.) india

>

> Plz help me & let me know when i get something good & about my future..

> ...

> Thanks & regards

>

> Gaurav Shrivastava

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July 21, 2008

Dear Gaurav,

> Thanks for your mail. In my chart rahu is in 1 st house & in my 5th

> house jupitor,sun, venus,saturn & mercury. In my 7th house Mars &

> ketu. & in 10th house moon is there.

First of all what is your Lagna ( " rising sign " )? You must begin from

there.

> venus, saturn, rahu & ketu in uchha position

This is impossible, if they are all in the same house.

Yours,

Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor

http://www.vedicastrologer.net

August 2, 2008

Luckily I got the original 1966 books by k.s.kI compared almost para by para, what i find in it and the books 1 to6. the differences were given to reseach group, and I requested Shree Kanak to make this report available to allI believe this has been done. Except Reader 1, of which I do not have copy. I lost my orignal book. The orignal mostly dealt with Ayanams, a Table of ayanams from 1840 to 2000. This was matter of discussions till 2003, when the formula was correctly given and is called New KPraichur anant mumbai--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:Punit Pandey <punitpRe: Re: 4 step theory :

questions Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:12 PM

Dear Dhanabalan ji,

I don't see it as a question of what is true or what is false. In my opinion, it is also not a question of whether KP books published in year 1966 were half backed or not? Most of the KP astrologers believe that 6 readers are refined after further research by Shri KSK. They, including myself, are getting good results with the theories proposed in 6 readers. Though it doesn't mean that the 2 readers are half backed and incorrect. Saying that is similar to say that Newtonian laws of gravity were false and Einstein's methods are only correct. It is one way of seeing. The other way of seeing is that Einstein's method is the advancement of Newtonian methods and we can not imaging Einstein's method without Newton's methods. KP System itself didn't rendered traditional astrology useless, rather it advanced traditional astrology by incorporating some of the ideas like Sub, Placidus cusps, and constellation based signification etc.

I don't think that awards like 'jyotish martand' are barometer of the accuracy of any system. My personal opinion is that a good astrologer can predict with any system. Astrology is all about understanding planetary behavior and once astrologer understands it, the system doesn't matter to him. Even in 6 readers, there are examples where navamsa and 1-108 based horary has been used. Astrologer of the level of Shri KSK could predict using various systems and KP System is definitely among one of them. But it doesn't mean that navamsa is incorrect or 1-108 based system is incorrect. It also doesn't mean that Kalidas's theory of 1-108 horary is half backed. Though it may mean that Sri KSK got better accuracy with KP System proposed in 6 readers. I may also mean that he might have thought that this systematic arrangement by the name of KP system will be easy to understand by the students of astrology.

I can understand that you believe that 2 readers by sagar publication is by Shri KSK and 6 readers are not written by him. That may be true. Though I am not sure why made you think so? Have you done some comparative study where you found that method adopted by 2 readers work better than the method in 6 readers? If that is the case, we would definitely love to see that study to refine our knowledge. If there is no study done and all our discussions are based only on opinions and assumptions, it would be better to drop this discussion. Because with just assumptions and opinions, we may not conclude anything. Your point that Sri KSK proposed 6 reader method just to avoid copyright violation may be correct but it requires practical proof before it can be accepted by all. I know there are few astrologers in this forum like Raichur ji who monitored development of KP System since inception and it would

be good to know his views as well.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dear K.P.Naidu

Contravercies are not with me or with you. Mr.KSK published volume I & II during 1966. For that he was awarded the title "Jyothida Marthand" and "Gold Medal". Now some members have the opinion that those books are half baked. My contention is whether he was awarded the title and gold medal for the half baked theory. Whether the examples given in those books are false. Whether Mr.KSK proved that the system followed in the Readers are better than originally published. Whether Mr.KSK gave any amendment report that the contents in volume I & II are false and everyone should use only the k.p.Readers, etc.

They are confusing others.

R.Dhanabalan --- On Wed, 7/30/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re: 4 step theory : questions

@gro ups.comWednesday, July 30, 2008, 2:58 PM

Dear sri Dhanabalan Ji,Thank you for your kind reply.In KP traditional, what I understand is there are five fold signification and significators are graded as a, b, c, d, and e. a is stalord of occupant

b is occupantc is stalord of ownerd is ownere is planet/s aspected by or conjoined by any of the above significxators.All your msgs based on Sagar publications are creating confusion and controversy among KP lovers.

Regards.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Tue, 29/7/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Re: 4 step theory : questions

@gro ups.comTuesday, 29 July, 2008, 11:10 PM

Dear Naidu

With reference to pages 113,114,274, 319,320 of Krishnamoorthy Paddhati volume II of sagar publication in the year 1966, Mr.KSK has considered the planets in the star & sub of occupants and the planets in the star & sub of the house lords as significators. This point has been supressed in the k.p.Reader III, V and VI. The existing four fold general significator table has to be converted into six fold as below to get better results according to Mr.K.S.Krishnamoort hy.

House No

Planets

In the

Sub of

occupants

Planets

In the

Star of

occupants

Occupants in the house

Planets

In the

Sub of

House lord

Planets

In the

Star of

House lord

I

II

III

IV

V

VI

VII

VIII

IX

X

XI

XII

R.Dhanabalan--- On Mon, 7/28/08, K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re: 4 step theory : questions@gro ups.com

Monday, July 28, 2008, 2:46 PM

Dear shri Dhanabalan Ji,Will you pl explain six fold general signification table as staed by you.Regds.Naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,

Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Mon, 28/7/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >Re: Re: 4 step theory : questions@gro ups.com

Monday, 28 July, 2008, 7:50 AM

Dear Subhash

Your are correct.

For marriage, only the houses 2,7,11 are to be taken. Other houses need not be considered.

Only the planets in the sub sgnifying 2,7,11 will give marriage. If the sub signifies 6 and 7, then there are struggles in marriage in that period but marriage will happen.

Try to practice six fold general significator table instead of present 4 fold table. Then you will realise what Mr.KSK told.

R.Dhanabalan

--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ >Re: Re: 4 step theory : questions

@gro ups.comSunday, July 27, 2008, 9:17 PM

Dear Dhanabalan,

Excuse me for intervention.

What I understood from my little knowledge of KP, when Guruji KSK says that "Only the planets having the sub signifying 2,7,11 by occupation and ownership will give marriage. The planets having the sub signifying 4,6,10 by occupation and ownership will not give marriage'

according to me it means that "out of the significators of houses 2, 7 and 11 only (if there are more than 3/4 significators) those having sub signifying 2,7, 11 by occuption and ownership will give marriage. Other planets which are not the significators of houses 2, 7, 11 can not give marriage even if they are in the sub of planet signifying 2, 7, 11.

This is what my understanding is, correct me if I am wrong.

Regards

Subhash Ektare

Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ >

@gro ups.comThursday, July 24, 2008 7:51:41 AMRe: Re: 4 step theory : questions

Dear Mr Yogesh Rao Lajmi

Mr.K.S.Krishnamoort hy, the founder of the k.p.system explained in his books, how to choose the significators. According to him,

The planets having beneficial sub are the significators for the event to happen.

For example, for marriage,

Only the planets having the sub signifying 2,7,11 by occupation and ownership will give marriage. The planets having the sub signifying 4,6,10 by occupation and ownership will not give marriage.

When Ruling Planets are used to select the significators, only the planets having beneficial sub to be selected as Ruling planets. Planets having the sub of negating houses should not be taken as Ruling planets.

R.Dhanabalan

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re: 4 step theory : questions@gro ups.com

Thursday, July 24, 2008, 5:41 AM

Dear Mr.Naidu,

The late Mr.Kar had written about this...he suggests the one can go on upto sub-sub or even sub-sub -sub level or even further,till the time that a planet is reopeated... THAT planet will be the strongest significator. ..

Another rule to find out the strongeest significator is also in vogue : "Among the significators arrived at for an event,only those that are posited in the sub of a significator whose star is untenanted.. .are the strongest..."

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

K. P. Naidu <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>

@gro ups.comWednesday, 23 July, 2008 8:22:33 PMRe: Re: 4 step theory : questions

Dear Subhash Ji,

Significators at stellar level (Planet and its star lord),and at sublord level (sublord and its star lord) are mentioned by sri K.M.Subrahmanian in his books "KP Astrology for Beginners). In some articles I found sub lord's sub lord also is taken as significator.

Sub lord is a PLANET and hence such planet's star lord may be considered it is said.

Insuch a case star lord is also a planet and its star lord and sub lord can also be considered ? sub lord's star lord is also a planet. It's star lord and sub also can be considered ? To what extent can it be STRETCHED ?

This not a creticism nor negation of any principle / theoy. Just out of acaedemic interest, to learn the KP system.

KP lovers may kindly clarify / justify.

naidu KPK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.--- On Tue, 22/7/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > Re: 4 step theory : questions@gro ups.com

Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 1:13 PM

Dear Dhanabalan,

You are referring to the Book published in 1966. Mr. Krishnamurty, himself, has published his Readers subsequent to this date. It is quite natural that most of the contents of 1966 book are reproduced in Readers since the basics of Krishnamurty Paddhati remained the same.

Modifications, as pointed by you, may be due to subsequent research carried out by Guruji KSK himself. He has made this point very clear in subsequent editions of these Readers. Please excuse me, but I do not agree to your opinion that originality of Mr.KSK is lost.

Since I have not read the Books by Sagar Publications, I cannot comment on it. However, Guruji KSK has used star lord of the sublord at places in his Readers. In fact Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar got inspiration to develope "Four Step Theory" only after reading famous series of articles "The Sub Lord Speaks" by Mr. K. M. Subramaniam. "Four Step Theory" was the result of his (Mr. Gondhalekar' s) vast experience and research work.

Four Step Theory is an extension of KP. It respects and honors all KP Principles. In KP, sub is treated as or taken as a planet. And if a planet is supposed to give result of a house where its star lord is tenented, logically this should apply to sub also. This is exactly what the 4th step is.

Any further questions are welcome.

Subhash Ektare

@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear members,> 1) Mr.KSK has taken the sub as significator in Volume II of Krishnamoorthy Paddhati of Sagar publication in the year 1966. In page 113 "According to Krishnamoorthy paddhati, one can borrow money during the dasa bukthies of

> a) planets in the star or sub of occupants of 6th house> b) occupants of 6th house> c) planets in the star or sub of lord of 6th house> d) lord of 6th house....... ........"> > In page 274 of volume II of sagar publication, the same is repeated for the houses 2,5,11.

> > 2) Most of the contents of K.P.Reader III has been taken from Volume I & II of above sagar publications. The publishers have modified the original content of volume II and published as Reader III. For the same chart, the signlord in volume II is just replaced with sublord in the Reader III. The originality of Mr.KSK has lost. Reader III is not reliable. But volume I & II of sagar publication is reliable. For comparision, I am giving the page numbers of volumeii and Reader III

> pages in volume II Pages in Reader III> 42 53>

61 169

> 64 171> 67 175>

74 181

> 98,99 204,205> 130 226>

155 254

> 162 261> > 3)Mr.KSK never ever nowhere asked sub's starlord either for planet or for cusp sublord in the volume I & II of sagar publications. It is stated that Mr.KSK took starlord for sublord with reference to Reader III. Is there any reference in volume I & II of sagar publications for sub's star by Mr.KSK.

> Regars,> R.Dhanabalan>

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August 14, 2008

OMG hari sir, this is not a job of nadi astrologer. even fake nadi

astrologers in tamil nadu wont do suggesting people rassi number

stones etc.

regarding hanumanth dasan, have read his articles in tamil news. his

stories on jeeva nadi are hilarious. any sane person could find his

claims are wrong

, " Hariharan.S "

<hariharan_sm wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> Couple of Naadi readers in Pune have suggested Raasi Number, Stone

and Colour for me and my wife thro' Naadi.

>

> Really it comes in Naadi leaves? I am doubtful on this.

>

> They used to take out the problem from our mouth(By asking Yes or No

type Questions) and read the leaves accordingly. If you tell yes to

any of the problems you r facing, then they make that problem as a

poetry and read as your prediction.My self has experience this with

couple of readers in Pune.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Regards,

>

> S. Hariharan

>

> -

> A K Singh

>

> Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:18 PM

> Re: Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Great experience !!!!!

>

> Will you please share with us the address and contact no of

both Jeeva Nadi Reader and the place where you did the prasna for your

Aunt?

>

> It will be great help to naadi lovers.

>

> With best regards,

> A K Singh.

>

> --- On Thu, 14/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos wrote:

>

> shortcut <shortcutfromdos

> Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR

>

> Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 12:43 PM

>

> Hi Sanjay & friends,

>

> Wanted share a few more things regarding the naadi leaves.

I would

> also recommend naadi readers from south directly in touch with

> vaitheswaran koil and especially more if there are not

advertised and

> refered to you by known people. I have been refering to my

naadi

> leaves from a single reader in chennai for more than 10

years and

> beyond doubt have found them authentic. Every year there

are more and

> more events that astonish me and intensifies the belief. I am

> presenting few such experiences recently.

>

> 1. My aunt expired recently - we had looked at naadi

leaves through

> jeeva naadi and it said that next two months are very

difficult to

> pass and further readings can be done only after that. She

passed of

> just around a months time from the reading. We had done a

reading for

> her through prasna nadi 2 years back it had mentioned this

same age

> group and told only if she cross her 54 year age group

does she have

> further life. Both the readings came correct. we had done

pariharams

> for her cure but naadi had said that it will work only if

god blesses.

>

> 2.Many people in post have mentioned that past janma

readings always

> shows birth in south india, however this is incorrect

there are many

> readings with past birth in india and outside india and

also sometimes

> birth after a yuga. recently i had oppurtunity to listen

to reading of

> a child born in Rishikesh in the last birth, the

astounding things

> was this is the first time in my experience an exact city

name is given .

>

> 3.Child birth for a native at 42 years - recently had an

opportunity

> to again witness a long time prediction come true. It was

prediction

> take almost around 8 years back. The naadi had said because of

> visiting some sacred places and asking the question at an

auspicious

> time the native will have a child after his 41st year. The

couple both

> husband/wife doctor were blessed with a male child. Just

One year

> before that they had given up hope and were totally

disillusioned as

> the single most thing they had asked in naadi did not come

> through,Medical attempts had also failed and doctors had

expressed

> that conception was not possible, They had spent huge

amount on doing

> pariharams but exactly after his 42 year started, things

happened.

>

> , Rajat Saxena

<rz_saxena@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Sanjay,

> > Ã‚

> > First of all welcome to the group..

> > Ã‚

> > Another thing please dont try any nadi reader in north

india as they

> all are fake..

> > if u really want nadi reading thn you hv to come to

south only..

> > Ã‚

> > cheers..!!

> > rajat

> >

> > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...>

> > Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR

> >

> > Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 9:33 AM

> >

> > Hello Friends, I am a new member and joined today in

search of some

> > Astrological remedies to my current problems.

> >

> > I am sorry to say but it would be difficult for me to

read all previous

> > posts to find out what I am looking for.

> >

> > I am in Faridabad, can some one please suggest a Nadi

Reader in and

> > around NCR.

> >

> > I am a firm believer of Jyotish, so I have no doubt on

Nadi Jyotish but

> > don't know how to identify a true Nadi reader.

> >

> > Thanks to this Internet tool, here we can share our

experience to avoid

> > going to wrong places.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Sanjay Sharma

> >

> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

> http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/

tools/tools- 08.html/

> >

>

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>

August 15, 2008

Can any one reply to my Quiry on Raasi Number, Stone? Even they have lucky dates also. ï»¿ Hello, Couple of Naadi readers in Pune have suggested Raasi Number, Stone and Colour for me and my wife thro' Naadi. Really it comes in Naadi leaves? I am doubtful on this. They used to take out the problem from our mouth(By asking Yes or No type Questions) and read the leaves accordingly. If you tell yes to any of the problems you r facing, then they make that problem as a poetry and read as your prediction.My self has experience this with couple of readers in Pune. Thanks, Regards, S. Hariharan- A K Singh @com Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:18 PMRe: Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCRDear Sir, Great experience !!!!! Will you please share with us the address and contact no of both Jeeva Nadi Reader and the place where you did the prasna for your Aunt? It will be great help to naadi lovers.With best regards,A K Singh.--- On Thu, 14/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos > wrote:shortcut <shortcutfromdos > Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR Date: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 12:43 PMHi Sanjay & friends, Wanted share a few more things regarding the naadi leaves. I wouldalso recommend naadi readers from south directly in touch withvaitheswaran koil and especially more if there are not advertised andrefered to you by known people. I have been refering to my naadileaves from a single reader in chennai for more than 10 years andbeyond doubt have found them authentic. Every year there are more andmore events that astonish me and intensifies the belief. I ampresenting few such experiences recently.1. My aunt expired recently - we had looked at naadi leaves throughjeeva naadi and it said that next two months are very difficult topass and further readings can be done only after that. She passed ofjust around a months time from the reading. We had done a reading forher through prasna nadi 2 years back it had mentioned this same agegroup and told only if she cross her 54 year age group does she havefurther life. Both the readings came correct. we had done pariharamsfor her cure but naadi had said that it will work only if god blesses.2.Many people in post have mentioned that past janma readings alwaysshows birth in south india, however this is incorrect there are manyreadings with past birth in india and outside india and also sometimesbirth after a yuga. recently i had oppurtunity to listen to reading ofa child born in Rishikesh in the last birth, the astounding thingswas this is the first time in my experience an exact city name is given .3.Child birth for a native at 42 years - recently had an opportunityto again witness a long time prediction come true. It was predictiontake almost around 8 years back. The naadi had said because ofvisiting some sacred places and asking the question at an auspicioustime the native will have a child after his 41st year. The couple bothhusband/wife doctor were blessed with a male child. Just One yearbefore that they had given up hope and were totally disillusioned asthe single most thing they had asked in naadi did not comethrough,Medical attempts had also failed and doctors had expressedthat conception was not possible, They had spent huge amount on doingpariharams but exactly after his 42 year started, things happened., Rajat Saxena <rz_saxena@. ..> wrote:>> Hello Sanjay,> Ã‚ > First of all welcome to the group..> Ã‚ > Another thing please dont try any nadi reader in north india as theyall are fake..> if u really want nadi reading thn you hv to come to south only..> Ã‚ > cheers..!!> rajat> > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...> wrote:> > Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...>> Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR> > Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 9:33 AM> > > > > > > Hello Friends, I am a new member and joined today in search of some > Astrological remedies to my current problems.> > I am sorry to say but it would be difficult for me to read all previous > posts to find out what I am looking for.> > I am in Faridabad, can some one please suggest a Nadi Reader in and > around NCR. > > I am a firm believer of Jyotish, so I have no doubt on Nadi Jyotish but > don't know how to identify a true Nadi reader. > > Thanks to this Internet tool, here we can share our experience to avoid > going to wrong places.> > Thanks,> > Sanjay Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, onhttp://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/>Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

August 16, 2008

I don't think a genuine naadi will give these so called details like so called raasi number, stone, change of name. As these type of occult is not part of Indian Astrology but western astrology. The reader with whom you saw is a 100% cheat and a touter, that is the reason people have not replied to your query in this forum. I don't know how much he extracted from you also a genuine reader will not do the pariharams for you and it is upto the seeker to perform the pariharams, only for deekshai and that too if told in the naadi they will perform and the cost will be nominal as the most case the ritual to be done will go above 4 or 5 mandalms. Each mandalam is 48 days. For me they charged 10Rs per day for 240 days. So, clear your mind from the reading of this so called genuine naadi, IT IS NOT A TRUE NAADI BUT A BOGUS NAADI.Dhinakar. From: hariharan_smDate: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:12:02 +0530RE:

Can any one reply to my Quiry on Raasi Number, Stone? Even they have lucky dates also.

Hello,

Couple of Naadi readers in Pune have suggested Raasi Number, Stone and Colour for me and my wife thro' Naadi.

Really it comes in Naadi leaves? I am doubtful on this.

They used to take out the problem from our mouth(By asking Yes or No type Questions) and read the leaves accordingly. If you tell yes to any of the problems you r facing, then they make that problem as a poetry and read as your prediction.My self has experience this with couple of readers in Pune.

Thanks,

Regards,

S. Hariharan

-

A K Singh

@com

Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:18 PM

Re: Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR

Dear Sir,

Great experience !!!!!

Will you please share with us the address and contact no of both Jeeva Nadi Reader and the place where you did the prasna for your Aunt?

It will be great help to naadi lovers.With best regards,A K Singh.

--- On Thu, 14/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos > wrote:

shortcut <shortcutfromdos > Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR Date: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 12:43 PM

Hi Sanjay & friends, Wanted share a few more things regarding the naadi leaves. I wouldalso recommend naadi readers from south directly in touch withvaitheswaran koil and especially more if there are not advertised andrefered to you by known people. I have been refering to my naadileaves from a single reader in chennai for more than 10 years andbeyond doubt have found them authentic. Every year there are more andmore events that astonish me and intensifies the belief. I ampresenting few such experiences recently.1. My aunt expired recently - we had looked at naadi leaves throughjeeva naadi and it said that next two months are very difficult topass and further readings can be done only after that. She passed ofjust around a months time from the reading. We had done a reading forher through prasna nadi 2 years back it had mentioned this same agegroup and told only if she cross her 54 year age group does she havefurther life. Both the readings came correct. we had done pariharamsfor her cure but naadi had said that it will work only if god blesses.2.Many people in post have mentioned that past janma readings alwaysshows birth in south india, however this is incorrect there are manyreadings with past birth in india and outside india and also sometimesbirth after a yuga. recently i had oppurtunity to listen to reading ofa child born in Rishikesh in the last birth, the astounding thingswas this is the first time in my experience an exact city name is given .3.Child birth for a native at 42 years - recently had an opportunityto again witness a long time prediction come true. It was predictiontake almost around 8 years back. The naadi had said because ofvisiting some sacred places and asking the question at an auspicioustime the native will have a child after his 41st year. The couple bothhusband/wife doctor were blessed with a male child. Just One yearbefore that they had given up hope and were totally disillusioned asthe single most thing they had asked in naadi did not comethrough,Medical attempts had also failed and doctors had expressedthat conception was not possible, They had spent huge amount on doingpariharams but exactly after his 42 year started, things happened., Rajat Saxena <rz_saxena@. ..> wrote:>> Hello Sanjay,> Â > First of all welcome to the group..> Â > Another thing please dont try any nadi reader in north india as theyall are fake..> if u really want nadi reading thn you hv to come to south only..> Â > cheers..!!> rajat> > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...> wrote:> > Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...>> Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR> > Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 9:33 AM> > > > > > > Hello Friends, I am a new member and joined today in search of some > Astrological remedies to my current problems.> > I am sorry to say but it would be difficult for me to read all previous > posts to find out what I am looking for.> > I am in Faridabad, can some one please suggest a Nadi Reader in and > around NCR. > > I am a firm believer of Jyotish, so I have no doubt on Nadi Jyotish but > don't know how to identify a true Nadi reader. > > Thanks to this Internet tool, here we can share our experience to avoid > going to wrong places.> > Thanks,> > Sanjay Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, onhttp://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/>

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August 16, 2008

Thanx Mr. Dinakar Sincerly, S. Hariharan

From: dhinakarrajaramDate: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:29:02 +0530RE:

I don't think a genuine naadi will give these so called details like so called raasi number, stone, change of name. As these type of occult is not part of Indian Astrology but western astrology. The reader with whom you saw is a 100% cheat and a touter, that is the reason people have not replied to your query in this forum. I don't know how much he extracted from you also a genuine reader will not do the pariharams for you and it is upto the seeker to perform the pariharams, only for deekshai and that too if told in the naadi they will perform and the cost will be nominal as the most case the ritual to be done will go above 4 or 5 mandalms. Each mandalam is 48 days. For me they charged 10Rs per day for 240 days. So, clear your mind from the reading of this so called genuine naadi, IT IS NOT A TRUE NAADI BUT A BOGUS NAADI.Dhinakar.

From: hariharan_sm (AT) hotmail (DOT) comDate: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:12:02 +0530RE:

Can any one reply to my Quiry on Raasi Number, Stone? Even they have lucky dates also.

Hello,

Couple of Naadi readers in Pune have suggested Raasi Number, Stone and Colour for me and my wife thro' Naadi.

Really it comes in Naadi leaves? I am doubtful on this.

They used to take out the problem from our mouth(By asking Yes or No type Questions) and read the leaves accordingly. If you tell yes to any of the problems you r facing, then they make that problem as a poetry and read as your prediction.My self has experience this with couple of readers in Pune.

Thanks,

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S. Hariharan

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Re: Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR

Dear Sir,

Great experience !!!!!

Will you please share with us the address and contact no of both Jeeva Nadi Reader and the place where you did the prasna for your Aunt?

It will be great help to naadi lovers.With best regards,A K Singh.

--- On Thu, 14/8/08, shortcut <shortcutfromdos > wrote:

shortcut <shortcutfromdos > Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR Date: Thursday, 14 August, 2008, 12:43 PM

Hi Sanjay & friends, Wanted share a few more things regarding the naadi leaves. I wouldalso recommend naadi readers from south directly in touch withvaitheswaran koil and especially more if there are not advertised andrefered to you by known people. I have been refering to my naadileaves from a single reader in chennai for more than 10 years andbeyond doubt have found them authentic. Every year there are more andmore events that astonish me and intensifies the belief. I ampresenting few such experiences recently.1. My aunt expired recently - we had looked at naadi leaves throughjeeva naadi and it said that next two months are very difficult topass and further readings can be done only after that. She passed ofjust around a months time from the reading. We had done a reading forher through prasna nadi 2 years back it had mentioned this same agegroup and told only if she cross her 54 year age group does she havefurther life. Both the readings came correct. we had done pariharamsfor her cure but naadi had said that it will work only if god blesses.2.Many people in post have mentioned that past janma readings alwaysshows birth in south india, however this is incorrect there are manyreadings with past birth in india and outside india and also sometimesbirth after a yuga. recently i had oppurtunity to listen to reading ofa child born in Rishikesh in the last birth, the astounding thingswas this is the first time in my experience an exact city name is given .3.Child birth for a native at 42 years - recently had an opportunityto again witness a long time prediction come true. It was predictiontake almost around 8 years back. The naadi had said because ofvisiting some sacred places and asking the question at an auspicioustime the native will have a child after his 41st year. The couple bothhusband/wife doctor were blessed with a male child. Just One yearbefore that they had given up hope and were totally disillusioned asthe single most thing they had asked in naadi did not comethrough,Medical attempts had also failed and doctors had expressedthat conception was not possible, They had spent huge amount on doingpariharams but exactly after his 42 year started, things happened., Rajat Saxena <rz_saxena@. ..> wrote:>> Hello Sanjay,> Â > First of all welcome to the group..> Â > Another thing please dont try any nadi reader in north india as theyall are fake..> if u really want nadi reading thn you hv to come to south only..> Â > cheers..!!> rajat> > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...> wrote:> > Sanjay <san_jay_ss@ ...>> Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR> > Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 9:33 AM> > > > > > > Hello Friends, I am a new member and joined today in search of some > Astrological remedies to my current problems.> > I am sorry to say but it would be difficult for me to read all previous > posts to find out what I am looking for.> > I am in Faridabad, can some one please suggest a Nadi Reader in and > around NCR. > > I am a firm believer of Jyotish, so I have no doubt on Nadi Jyotish but > don't know how to identify a true Nadi reader. > > Thanks to this Internet tool, here we can share our experience to avoid > going to wrong places.> > Thanks,> > Sanjay Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, onhttp://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/>

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August 16, 2008

i am a new member of this group and trying to get to kno more about the naadi by reading everyones experience and views.

i agree with shortcut , naadi helped me coz i had faith in it ( as u all kno coz god desired i have faith in it )

it helps u to get an insight and understading into ur problems so that u can deal with it

without wasting time in blaming others ( since we r responsible for our own attitudes , perceptions, reactions ) , so its like a timely warning by the almighty or the rishis to wake up and take stock of ur karma.

my turning point came thru my last birth experience and shook me up from my complacency.

i hav been to a naadi reader in hyderabad. my experience was good.

is it true that naadi tells u about more than one of ur past lives and if desired also ur future life ?

has anyone of u ventured into that path ? any experiences that can b shared ?

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shortcut <shortcutfromdos Re: Nadi Reader around Delhi/NCR Date: Friday, 15 August, 2008, 5:59 AM

Hi friends,This is a old message i had posted in the group sometime back. At theend i have given the naadi readers address, this person is not indelhi.Anyways for anybody who has a leaf whether the leaf is in anycity in the world it will reach the person at the described age thathas been my experience.shortcut <shortcutfromdos@ > wrote:Hi,I have been refering to Naadi leaves for last 10 years and most of theprediction have been true, this is not just the case with me but withlots of my friends who have approached Naadi after sharing myexperience. I am interested in this poll to know about other peoplesexperience.a) My suggestion is that to get the correct reading, you should followa correct Naadi reader who will translate verses as mentioned in thenaadi and not try to add his own meaning to it.b) Refer to the naadi only if you have faith in the

system to followit and if you are prepared to do the remedies. I have seen peoplespending from 1500 to at times upto 5 digit figures for their remediesto get their karma rectified.The principle behind the remedies are mainly1.. Daana (charity) has the maximum effect in Kaliyuga2. God alone has the power to alleviate you from the suffering3. The rishi through the leaf is guiding you so that you can reachalmighty.This is purely my understanding and Opinion:Most of the people who reach the naadi leaf would have referred toleaves in their past birth also and that it is a continuous process.The sapta rishi's are suppose to guide the people and help the dharmaof the earth, they do this irrespective of the yuga and will also helppeople in this process so that they also at one point contribute tothis process of maintaining the dharma of the world. They do this tillthe system for which they

are the "Sapt-rishi' s" exist and after thatonce their work is over for this system, they move to the next realm.Naadi leaves have never required and will never require an advertisingmedium , the people who have their naadi will reach the leaves. In myexperience we have seen people wait for almost an year to get theleaf.Scope of freewill: Maharishi guide you to understand the working offreewill, they help you in taking the decision. The naadi doesnot stopyou in taking decisions.This is purely my understanding and Opinion, the same can be tested:Being into astrology i think this thumb hand rule will work in most ofthe cases:a) If you have more planets in your rashi chart in the house 3,6,11from the lagna - the level of free will is more so the maharishi willguide to take decision. Naadi in this case helps you in takinginformed decisions.b) If you have more planets in your rashi

chart in the house 1,4,7,10than 3,6,11 from the lagna- your destiny is as impelled by theplanets so naadi readings will match almost 100%Other forms of Naadi:The copper plates of Orissa have been giving readings for generationsnow and i dont think most of the people have heard about this. Thisincludes remedies for diseases,day to day problems, missing items butthe plates have remained within the guru shishya parampara and areopen for public scrutiny. The plates have been discovered acrossorissa at different points of time as destined and are called "Pothi".Why naadi readings differ: I do not use the word fail, i feel it isincorrect and most of the time we are momentary testers ( at most wesee in our own life).a) We take decisions differently after knowing them.b) We think naadi reader is minting money on the name of our sinsc) We do not believe in people whome we dont knowd)

Naadi gives a reading that we do not like.e) We do not take steps as per naadi readings - In one case the naadireader said if you take steps (initiative tamil word "muyurchi") youwill get this result, the reader said you will get married, the personassumed he will get married but event did not take place. - When theperson was sharing this experience with me , we reran the cassette tohear what was said and it was clear in seconds. so i strongly suggestget the recordings done word by word as it is and spend time with yourtranslator understanding it do get a reading done in a flash since youhave to catch your flight/train/ bus or any other appointment.Some other suggestion again its from my own experience - I have beenassociated to naadi for a long time now and being involved in thestudy of astrology for a equally long time, this is what i feel.Iwould also like to know if others have shared this

experience.a) Naadi reader should have faith in god and should not just be a justa facilitator - Please make sure you personally take time and go tothe reader and you feel it is important. Dont go to reader justbecause you want a job in pricewater house the next day. Please dontdo this, naadi is for atmakaraka and not for knowing the next daystock index. NAADI IS NOT TO DO WITH PREDICTIONS IT IS ABOUT GUIDINGYOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF LIFE.b)Do not get your readings done during Dayrise, Mid afternoon, Sunsettime - i do not have a scientific reasoning behind this but i haveseen in most case either the readings have lots of karma involved init and are unclear. Always have the readings searched and listen to itbefore sunset.c) Pray and develop the questions in your mind, before you go - Do notgo in front of the naadi and then think what i want to know. Think thequestions over a week and

remove the not necessary and unclear ones orkeep them as secondary. If you do this your readings will give you alot better effect. I have seen this is cases of people with lots ofproblems , they did this and the solutions they got changed theirlife. I donot believe in asking 5 questions limit, on your day you canask 1000 questions and their is no limit , the reader can stop only ifthe rishi stops or you stop.d) Please try and carry some fruits,some flower,incense sticks andplace it before naadi before the reading - i recommend this more incase you get a Jeeva naadi reading done. Please note i have notwritten money. This is for the naadi and rishi , we asking for afavour from the rishi and not a service from company , we have to behumble.e) Naadi is not a turnkey solution , its a experience - You can haveit only if you experience , reading the blogs will not suffice , everyexperience is

unique.f) Jeeva naadi - If you get a Jeev naadi reading done , your lifechanges the same day(infact moment) no doubts in it. The leaf set israre and is not present for everybody. People who have Jeev Naadi havea purpose to solve in this birth. Do not force your reader to trace aJeeva naadi for you. The methodology for Jeeva naadi reading isdifferent and so also its scope and implementing it in ones life.Search it once you have had a few readings done and have started totrust the naadi. But in case the rishi says "There are still lots morereadings for you" or "I am happy to tell you anytime", then requestyour reader to start searching for the leaf - 9/10 you have a Jeevanaadi leaf for sure and you should try to reach it quickly though youwill reach it only when destined. Also Jeeva naadi readers are rareand if a Jeeva naadi reader then he will have a spiritual bent of mindand will be a good

person.*** Astrologically such a reader will doing readings during the dasaof a strong D-24 planet related to his 5th house - i will be happy ifothers can also test this, if they have astrological interest andshare their experience.g)Remedies - Many times i see people saying that the remedies arecostly, but i think it is a better exercise to ask the opinion of thepeople who have done it, do they think so? However it is a debatablequestion.What i have seen is naadi is not a shortcut to remedies, in ones lifewe accrue a series of sin , if cleared from one sin the next one comesup the surface naturally as one layer is cleared.So after a period oftime the leaf will suggest you the next measure when the rishi thinksyou have chances of clearing it in this birth and that is in fact thepurpose of naadi , if you want to get out of the circle of birth anddeath. The shanti and deeksha is always for

the strongest curseprevalent on your birth, this could be your previous birth, 3 birthsprior to this so on. - So remedies have always been helpful and moreauthentic in naadi and they will always be in your capacity but willtake effort. A man earning a four digit salary will get it in thousands and the purpose is that when doing the daana he remembers themistake and prays from the bottom of his heart.Secondly if at all itis beyond your limits maybe if the curse is stronger then please donot hesitate to open your prasna kandam and ask for directions to doit in smaller parts and within in limits, do not put your ego and tryto say naadi might not work. In many cases i have seen rishissuggesting the alternate , and their is a valid provision but the urgehas to be genuine if you can afford and you want to try and sneak abetter package , trust me you will be in a tight spot. If you dontthink you should

ask for forgiveness for the karma mentioned and cantrelate it , then i suggest dont do the remedies till you can relate toit, it will not fructify or give effect. The effect will come onlyafter you can relate to your karma and seek relief to it. But as arule do refer to the rishi again whenever you plan to do it again.In most cases the rishi will tell you the time period when to do theremedy , in cases not mentioned please find out in prasna and then doit so that you start it on a time where you face the lesser amount ofproblems.At times the gochara of planets are not supporting you and if you arefacing problems , then also you can try to find you leaf and ask therishi to suggest you remedies, i have seen very less people ask forthese remedies but since the count is just 3 i leave it open forjudgement.In the end i am attaching my reader reference, anyone can try reachinghim, though

people from non-tamil background should have there owntranslators:S.SatyaMoorthy (Satya)112/A, P.S. Sivasamy salai,First floor, Opp: Vivekananda College , Mylapore, Chennai.Phone:044-24661754

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Hi RG, Just out of accademic interest , I am making an attempt on the case referred. Whether the query is genuine ? Moon that mirrors mind is in the lunar mansion of Venus , the ruler of 8H of longevity. So the query is not frivolous The Principle If the Ascendant cuspal sublord is the sgnificator of Marak (2H or 7H) or badhak , life is too short from the date of judgement. Application of the principle to this case Sublord of the Ascendant is Mercury , owner of 7H, a Marak as well as badhak to Pisces Ascendant Mercury is in the star of Moon and sub of Kethu In KP Sublord is the final arbiter of any event. We find Kethu is in the star of Mercury. To wit, the cuspal sublord of the Ascendant , via its sublord , gets signification of 2H & 7H (unfavourable for longevity) When it comes to speed , Mercury ranks second . So we can expect the native to shed his mortal coil without much delay ;ofcourse not overlooking certain points , obvious in the chart, that indicates delay viz, ---The sign that

ascends as per KP Horary number is Pisces , a Dual sign ---Moon is in a Dual sign Sagittarius- -----Jupiter, a slow moving planet as come as the cuspal sublord of 8H and is in a Dual sign Sag --Venus, the L8 of death is in a Dual sign Virgo and importantly ---Saturn, the planet of delay aspects the 8H of longevity Operating Horary major and sub period is that of Venus , in fall. Run your eyes through the RP's at the time of judgement Libra ruled by Venus, Rises in the East Ve is also the starlord and sublord of Moon. So

Ve is a strong ruling planet . At the time of judgement, Venus in Transit is in Hastha ruled by Moon . I expect death to strike , when T Ve moves in Chitra nakshatra ruled by Mars, the L2 , a maraka From 13Sept to 24Sep'08, Ve will be in Chitra Nakshtra . Death is expected in this period. To narrow down further, 19 Sep '08, should be watched for some unfortunate development. Hope you will show the basic courtesy to give feed back , irrespective of the fact , whether my calculation proves correct or not Best Pranav Ravinder Grover <rgrover wrote: 10th Sep 2008 Dear friends I was asked the following question: Question: Longevity of my father in law? KP (1-249): 200 Analysis: I have constructed the chart on 10th Sep 2008 at 13:32 hours, Auckland, New Zealand Please note the followings: 1. Questionerâ€™s lagna is R(10) 17 deg 46 min 40 sec 2. Lagna for Questionerâ€™s father in law would be cusp(3). Now take this as cusp(1) 3. Cusp(1) is R(12) ruled by sign lord Jup, star lord Sat and Sub Lord Merc 4. SLC(1) = Merc in star(Mon) sub(Ven) a. Merc signifies (10,7,5,4-7) conjuct Mars S(10,7,5,2-9) and Ven S(10,7,5,3-8) b. Mon S(7,10,308,5) conjuct Jup S(7,10,3-8,1-10) c. Ven S(10,7,5,3-8) conjuct Mars and Merc 5. Maarkesh and Bhaadkhkesh significtors are S(2rahu, 2 ketu, sun, Mon, Jup, Sat, 2 Mars, 2 Merc, Ven) 6. RP = Sun (with Sat), Jup (with Mon), Ven (with Mars, Merc), Merc (with Mars, Ven) 7. SLC(1) = Merc in Star Mon Sub Ven. Star Lord and Sub Lord are in Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh and RP Ã¨ hence shows short life 8. But how short? I have done the

further calculations. 9. Would anybody like to find out the exact date of demise (if you are permitted and comfortable to do that)? Regards Ravinder Grover

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September 24, 2008

Dear Sir,

Is there any way or suggestion which I should follow, so I can get job. Very Frankly by 21st August I become free. Because till December 2008 is too long vacation for me and that without any income and I will lost my whole savings.

Should I start some small business of food items and colddrinks etc.

You guidence will help me a lot.

With best regards

Uday

lalkitab From: jagannathankrDate: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:54:17 +0530Re: [lalkitab]

Dear Sir,

Soon after Dec,2008 you may hope to get a job.

Regards,

jagannathan.

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Dear sir, my birth date is 10/10/1963my birth time is 2255hrsmy birth place is Jaipur. Kindly advise me when I will get job.uday

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September 28, 2008

Dear Ravinder,

Ref your posting dated 10th September.

Sub:Longevity of father-in-law.

Will you kindly inform us about the health of the father-in-law in question?

With due regards.

Dr. Luther.

pranav siva <pranavsiva Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:48:32 AMRe:

Hi RG,

Just out of accademic interest , I am making an attempt on the case referred.

Whether the query is genuine ?

Moon that mirrors mind is in the lunar mansion of Venus , the ruler of 8H of longevity.

So the query is not frivolous

The Principle

If the Ascendant cuspal sublord is the sgnificator of Marak (2H or 7H) or badhak , life is too short from the date of judgement.

Application of the principle to this case

Sublord of the Ascendant is Mercury , owner of 7H, a Marak as well as badhak to Pisces Ascendant

Mercury is in the star of Moon and sub of Kethu

In KP Sublord is the final arbiter of any event.

We find Kethu is in the star of Mercury.

To wit, the cuspal sublord of the Ascendant , via its sublord , gets signification of 2H & 7H (unfavourable for longevity)

When it comes to speed , Mercury ranks second .

So we can expect the native to shed his mortal coil without much delay ;ofcourse not overlooking certain points , obvious in the chart, that indicates delay viz,

---The sign that ascends as per KP Horary number is Pisces , a Dual sign

---Moon is in a Dual sign Sagittarius-

-----Jupiter, a slow moving planet as come as the cuspal sublord of 8H and is in a Dual sign Sag

--Venus, the L8 of death is in a Dual sign Virgo and importantly

---Saturn, the planet of delay aspects the 8H of longevity

Operating Horary major and sub period is that of Venus , in fall.

Run your eyes through the RP's at the time of judgement

Libra ruled by Venus, Rises in the East

Ve is also the starlord and sublord of Moon.

So Ve is a strong ruling planet .

At the time of judgement, Venus in Transit is in Hastha ruled by Moon .

I expect death to strike , when T Ve moves in Chitra nakshatra ruled by Mars, the L2 , a maraka

From 13Sept to 24Sep'08, Ve will be in Chitra Nakshtra .

Death is expected in this period.

To narrow down further, 19 Sep '08, should be watched for some unfortunate development.

Hope you will show the basic courtesy to give feed back , irrespective of the fact , whether my calculation proves correct or not

Best

Pranav

Ravinder Grover <rgrover (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz> wrote:

10th Sep 2008

Dear friends

I was asked the following question:

Question: Longevity of my father in law? KP (1-249): 200

Analysis: I have constructed the chart on 10th Sep 2008 at 13:32 hours, Auckland, New Zealand

Please note the followings:

1. Questioner’s lagna is R(10) 17 deg 46 min 40 sec

2. Lagna for Questioner’s father in law would be cusp(3). Now take this as cusp(1)

3. Cusp(1) is R(12) ruled by sign lord Jup, star lord Sat and Sub Lord Merc

4. SLC(1) = Merc in star(Mon) sub(Ven)

a. Merc signifies (10,7,5,4-7) conjuct Mars S(10,7,5,2-9) and Ven S(10,7,5,3-8)

b. Mon S(7,10,308,5) conjuct Jup S(7,10,3-8,1- 10)

c. Ven S(10,7,5,3-8) conjuct Mars and Merc

5. Maarkesh and Bhaadkhkesh significtors are S(2rahu, 2 ketu, sun, Mon, Jup, Sat, 2 Mars, 2 Merc, Ven)

6. RP = Sun (with Sat), Jup (with Mon), Ven (with Mars, Merc), Merc (with Mars, Ven)

7. SLC(1) = Merc in Star Mon Sub Ven. Star Lord and Sub Lord are in Maarkesh and Bhaadhkesh and RP è hence shows short life

8. But how short? I have done the further calculations.

9. Would anybody like to find out the exact date of demise (if you are permitted and comfortable to do that)?

Regards

Ravinder Grover

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sorry for inconvience caused to by posting my query on wrong email id I am seema shukla My DOB is 4th oct 1964.(timearound8:15----8;20) Iwas borned in gorakhpur district of UP. I have done my MA in POL sc. I got married on 14th december 1996 my husband is criminal lawyer in Gujarat court. His name is Nigam Shukla His date of birth is 5/6th january 1959 time time of birth is around 3:00to3:45 am.. My husband has one elder brother & is staying in USA my mother in law died through burns when my husbad was around 12 years. I have got one elder brother .He is an IPS officer My father is retired Govt Officer Medical & health In UP state. Mine was arranged marriage .I have got one daughter staying withme about 4 yr old(13-11-2004). she was borned through IVF treatment. My

problem is my married life is disturbed from very begining I adjusted a lot Once my husband throughed me out of his house along with my daughter. but due to social pressure he had to take me back Now again I am with my parents since last 7 months. Since last 5 months i am running a preprimary school in gandhinagar district with financial help of my father But no profit is there Only investment is there.What future you are seeing about mmyself & if you think that my school willrun thru some remedy tell me ( my parents belong to UP and are Kayasth --Srivastava) Thanks, regards & happy diwali

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