Reply from Bhaskar DG,Kolkata A questionrelated to dietary....

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Dear Dutta ji,

 

We shall decide what we must address each other after I have answered

you satisfactorily. But just for your knowledge let me say that I have

spent among the best of my childhood and teenage days at Calcultta, used

to dine frequently at Park street, Flurys too, and seen many movies of

the late 70's and the early 80's at the cinema halls at chowringhee.

Most of our Saturday evenings would be spent at the BRC(Bengal rowing

Club) and Sundays we used to be invited at the CM's old bungalow for

lunch often . We used to eat lot of Chaat pakora,Paanipuri at Victoria,

and enjoy roaming about at Theatre road. Still we have some property ( A

mansion) in Bada bazaar, where my parents stayed earlier in the

1940-50's. I miss all this but do not come to Calcutta now, for it

brings in old memories of loved people who some of them are no more

alive, while others left the city, so to avoid this I postpone coming

there.

 

Since does not allow attachments , I request you to please post

the birth details on the Group itself, with maximum 3 queries, all

worded short in 2-3 lines maximum to avoid spillage of time. Just date

of Birth, Time of Birth and place of Birth. Please be careful that your

queries are specific (Not vague) and not many coupled in one. And only

Your Birth Chart.

 

After doing this I believe you know the rule that I only answer if you

call me.

 

By the way who told you that I ask for Horoscopes on my fax No. or at my

address ? You accepted in your last mail that you read my mails always-

then please let me know whom have I ever asked for the Hard copy through

any means ? Also you must have certainly seen my address on the Home

Page. That could not be missed by You, since you read all my mails and

commented on how I treat the members who take me for a ride ? Then how

could you miss reading whats mentioned on the Home Page ?

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Bhaskar Dutta Gupta

<arundhuti_dg wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Bhaiya:

>

> Thanks for prompt reply. Happy to note contents. As you know I can

write brief, to the point mails also. You are younger than me. In Bengal

we call elder brothers Dada. You can address me as Bhaskar Da if you

wish. I will address you as Bhaskar Bhaiya if you permit. Details &

queries attached. Please take your time. If you have any queries I will

be happy to answer same. To send you detailed Horoscope I need Address

or Fax No. Noted you won't accept fees. Would have felt better if you

did but I respect your right to decide.Thanks for agreeing to advise me.

I am happy to gain you as a friend.

>

> Regards,

>

> Bhaskar Dutta Gupta

>

> :

> -

> Bhaskar

>

> Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:37 PM

> Reply from Bhaskar DG, Kolkata Re: Re: A

questionrelated to dietary....

Bhai Bhaskar Dutta Gupta ji,

>

> HaHa. A good mail.

>

> Bhai I am a simple " Karmayogi " and a " majdoor " worker, and have no

> " samay " no " samajh " and no " taakat " to read such long mails written in

> such " good " English.

>

> First let me come to the point. You must now straightaway give me the

> birth details and the query, and not talk commercial with me at all. I

> would not be interested in accepting any Fees from your goodself.

>

> Next, all previous matters stand closed so let us not go back on them.

>

> Would just like to clear one point before I close . You mentioned -

>

> " Further, it is also within my knowledge that you frequently berate

> Members for trying to elicit advice without paying for it / failing to

> pay you after eliciting advice. Is it not so? "

>

> There is some faulty message or understanding here. I only berate

those

> members who keep coming with queries on their family members charts

from

> time to time without any intentions of paying for the services of the

> astrologer. I think I am perfectly justified in such thinking and

> action. I would not like my brothers and sisters on the Forum to just

> keep picking up for free and not learn the art of mantaining " Self

> respect " neither giving value for the time one spends for them.

>

> Astrological Fees are not taken for some knowledge imparted, because

> Knowledge is valueless, it cannot be valued. Time certainly has got

some

> value. The astrologers take their money only for the time they have

> spent on their charts .

>

> Anyways, I hope you shall now also become specific with your birth

> details and Query /Queries.

>

> By the way I am just 48 years old and a very young man, and it will

take

> another 50 years for me to become old or elderly.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> P.S. Bhai Sahaab Kripya karke mujhe lambi mail mat bhejiyega abki.

Short

> and sweet would be welcome and comfortable. Nahi toh utna padhna phir

> jawaab dene mein mera keemti samay barbaad ho jaata hai. Kaun karega

> uska hisaab ?

>

> , Bhaskar Dutta Gupta

> arundhuti_dg@ wrote:

> >

> > Respected Bhaskar ji:

> >

> > [A] I deeply regret that I have succeeded in offending you without

> intending to do so; that you find my attitude at fault. I am astounded

> that you read so much in what was essentially a little matter! I am

56.

> I imagine you are older than me. In any event, it behoves neither of

us

> to continue in this vein! [Other Group Members are reading our replies

> to each other.] I was under the impression that I have been most

> repectful while addressing you both.

> >

> > You made your point in your previous reply that my query is

vague.

> I have also comprehended that you want to focus on Chart-specfic

queries

> only; that you have no time for abstract / esoteric queries. It's a

> perfectly reasonable condition. I have no quarrel with you on this

> score. Very well, so be it. Trust this will mollify you.

> >

> > [C] Sir, let us, please, leave respected Neelam ji out of this. I

will

> be more than happy to correspond only with you.

> >

> > [D] I read a number of replies from you to other Members where you

> keep reminding that Members are entitled to answer of only one query

> free of cost. For more than one query, the Member concerned must pay.

> Further, it is also within my knowledge that you frequently berate

> Members for trying to elicit advice without paying for it / failing to

> pay you after eliciting advice. Is it not so? Now, I have several

> queries and desire to pay. Therefore the question of your fees.

> >

> > [E] Sir, alas it is my misfortune that you should impute ulterior

> motives. There are none. I feel helpless at being suspected of lacking

> transparency / of disembling. I did not then, and do not now, wish to

> take advantage of your genorisity.

> >

> > [F] I am very happy to learn that you spend substantially [about Rs

> 10,000/- p.m.] to help those less fortunate; that you are doing so

since

> many years; that beyond the need to sustain your existence, you do not

> covet money. It is magnanimous of you. In this Age of 'Each One For

> Himself And Devil Take The Hindmost' it is laudable on your part. All

in

> the Group should respect you for this: you have already earned mine.

So

> much for my attitude.

> >

> > [G] Beleagured as I am, I am in no position to look down on you, or

> anyone else, for that matter. I would not wish to. Aquarians rarely

do.

> When you peruse my Chart and see for yourself, perhaps, you will then

> believe me. The question of trying to impress you by offering to pay

> [you for taking the pain to study my Chart and suggest remedies]

cannot

> and does not arise. If, inadvertently, I have apeared otherwise in my

> reply, please now graciously accept this clarification in good faith.

So

> much for my attitude.

> >

> > [H] Besides, another Astrologer would not be impressed by my

offering

> to compensate him / her for professional services. On the contrary, he

/

> she would expect to be compensated. Now, if I cannot expect to impress

> another Astrologer by offering to compensate the individual concerned,

I

> fail to understand why I would expect to impress you, in particular,

by

> offering to compensate you [as you, by your own admission, also expect

> to be, (from others.)] Sir, I confess the logic eludes me.

> >

> > I requested the particulars as I did not save them then. [it so

> happens I receive lot of mails in this ID and delete most after

> attending to them to make space for incoming mails. Apparently so do

> you.] You see, at that juncture I did not expect to refer to you for

> your professional services. I shall consider it a favour if you very

> kindly condescend to study my Chart and advise me. But, as a matter of

> principle, I must, insist, not for free. After all according to your

own

> admission I am neither your enemy nor am I your friend. [but I am,

> indisputably, your namesake.] Why, then, should I, Bhaskar, seek /

> accept free service from Bhaskar ji? Again, so much for my attitude.

> >

> > [J] I will furnish details (again) & my queries once we are in

accord

> and provided it is within Bhaskar's means to afford the services of

> Bhaskar ji. If not, I will forget this unhappy episoide. Sir, the

choice

> is yours. I conclude by once again apologising for offending you and

> hope you will accept above in good faith.

> >

> > With respectful regards & best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar DG: Your Namesake

> >

> > -

> > Bhaskar

> >

> > Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:53 PM

> > Re: A question related to dietary....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > I am sorry for the rebuke, but believe me it has got only to do with

> your, not being to the point or specific.

> >

> > I have many reasons for not being interested in allowing Neelamji to

> reply to astrological queries, one among them, that she does not do

> professional consultations, leading to members harassing her, members

> asking for more, and she consequently referring me , for professional

> readings, which I am not comfortable with, the reasons for why, being

> another issue which is my personal problem.

> >

> > You mentioned in your last mail that you are reading the replies

given

> by me and Neelamji. Then you must have certainly read that I most of

the

> times give a rejoinder to my replies mentioning clearly how much I

> charge for professional Consultations and where to look for How to

pay.

> I do not understand why are you asking this now if you say that you

read

> all mails.

> >

> > Another point, I shall not accept your money for am not happy with

> your approach. If you are trying to prove or show that you have been

not

> replied to your query because I am here for making you my customer,

> (Which is what the tone of your mail suggests), then you are highly

> mistakenly. I spend more than Rs.10000- on poor people every

> month,(doing this regularly for last 2 years and with a little reduced

> amount for last many years), and money has no great value or

attraction

> for me, apart from being a important necessity in Life for everyone

> including me, but not more than that. I never compromise on

principles,

> integrity and self respect. You can show that You can Pay, to some

other

> astrologer, but not me. I do not get impressed easily. And I demand

when

> I have to. In Your case I shall demand when I have to. I dont accept

> Dakshina, Charity or any such donations. I accept only the legitimate

> Fees for services given, and clear the account on both

> >

> > Since I am offering a free reply to all as per my self made

> injunction, and you are no enemy to me, though not my friend, it would

> be injustice on my part to charge you any Fees, unless you ask for

more

> than what is offered. Therefore I request you to please give me your

> birth details, and put a specific query rather than what you did

before.

> >

> > I once again at the cost of sounding pompous wish to say that I am a

> busy person and have no time for Esoterics or commenting on hearsay or

> talking about the weather, Life in general or what have you. This is

> only when my mood is relaxed. While working I wish to be absolute on

> mark and on toes. Therefore when your query comes as what would Saturn

> give when retrograde in Lagna , at the stage where I am in , in

> astrology this does not sound tangible, specific, or make sense to me.

> This is like saying to the Doctor that I am not feeling well. I need

to

> know the full details before I comment, which is why I got perturbed

by

> the mail and the response you received was due to this.

> >

> > I shall wait for your birth details. And as mentioned at the start

of

> this reply, I once again apologise for having hurt you.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Bhaskar Dutta Gupta

> arundhuti_dg@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Bhaskar ji:

> > >

> > > Not being knowledgeable, I could not frame the query properly. I

> accept being rebuked.

> > >

> > > I did not realize that one must address mails either to you or to

> respected Neelam ji. Hope you will believe me.

> > >

> > > Inadvertently I wrote 'Ascendant' in place of 'Exalted'.

> > >

> > > My query relates to Exalted but Retrograde Saturn.

> > >

> > > I will send you the details sought. Kindly confirm your charges,

> address, and payment mode to enable me to do so.

> > >

> > > Rest assured I have no desire to waste your valuable time.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar DG

> > >

> > > -

> > > Bhaskar

> > >

> > > Monday, April 20, 2009 11:11 PM

> > > Fw: [JYOTISH_GA

> >

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