Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Dear All,Just got a forwarded mail from a friend. something worth sharing with you all.An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly that made the world community smile.. A representative from India began: 'Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Rishi Kashyap of Kashmir, after whom Kashmir is named. When he struck a rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath.' He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Pakistani had stolen them.' The Pakistani representative jumped up furiously and shouted, 'What are you talking about? The Pakistanis weren't there then.' The Indian representative smiled and said, 'And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech. 'And they say Kashmir belongs to them....................... ............................ " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 //But the Pakistani representative was right. There were no Pakistanis then and no Pakistan. It was India , all over.//Sure, but would they admit? That is what smart Indian representative made the Pak counterpart blurt out.... It is a true incidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I second you...............--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:13 PM Dear Neelam ji, But the Pakistani representative was right. There were no Pakistanis then and no Pakistan. It was India , all over. Even the much hullabaloo made about Babri Masjid, I would like to ask them if they say that the Babri masjid was there a few hundred years ago, then I would say that a thousand years ago, there was a temple over there. It is because of weak leaders like Mahatma Gandhi that we have had to suffer the after effects of creation of Pakistan, our own territory given to them which is used now by them to terrorise their own Masters who gave them land in donation to live seperately. This is known as "ahsaan faramosh". They came as invaders and guests in our country. They were allowed to come here. But they multilplied by making many children of many wives, overstayed and created lot of troubles here , so after getting fed up of their dirty habits, our weak leaders instead of pushing them back out of the country thought out of a less challengable plan, of giving them a part of territory of India, but what they did in return ? Half of them stayed over here, half went there, and the results is there for all of us to see. We are now terrorised by these same people whom we donated land to stay, and also those who opted to stay here join hands with them to terrorise us Original tenants by planting bombs in our country. I wish Bhagat Singh was alive. I wish Shivaji maharaj was alive. I wish Lala Lajpatrai was alive. I wish I was at the helm of affairs in this country. I would take back my donated territory , Bangladesh, Pakistan, POK, and also push out all of them from here as well as Pakistan, into Afghanistan, and make this country into a Ram, rajya where no traitor would ever think of being born also, because I would terminate all of them from the seed itself, forget the descendants. Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > Just got a forwarded mail from a friend. something worth sharing with you> all.> > > *An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the> United Nations Assembly that made the world community smile.. *> > * A representative from India began: 'Before beginning my talk I want to> tell you something about Rishi Kashyap of Kashmir, after whom Kashmir is> named. *> > * When he struck a rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a> good opportunity to have a bath.' He removed his clothes, put them aside on> the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his> clothes had vanished. A Pakistani had stolen them.' *> > * The Pakistani representative jumped up furiously and shouted, **'What> are you talking about? The Pakistanis weren't there then.' *> > *The Indian representative smiled and said, **'And now that we have made> that clear, I will begin my speech. 'And they say Kashmir belongs to> them........ ......... ......> ............ ......... ...... " *> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistan is a terrorist nation ok i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job, unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from here. What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time on this. And we dont have a problem with the " sthan " for that is our own country and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brothers who too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pity and compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders. India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No second opinion on this. Period. Moderator. , " marine_life01 " <marine_life01 wrote: > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistan is a terrorist nation ok > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready to pounce on the slightest pretext.We cannot even speak in our own house?RegardsNeelam 2009/4/30 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job, unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from here. What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time on this. And we dont have a problem with the " sthan " for that is our own country and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brothers who too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pity and compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders. India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No second opinion on this. Period. Moderator. , " marine_life01 " <marine_life01 wrote: > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistan is a terrorist nation ok > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dear Neelam ji, That is the unfortunate state of affairs in our country. They can speak against us and our country with not a single hair on their head harmed, and when we speak , we are booked under so many sections. This misplaced " secularism " is taking its toll now. Under the umbrella of being " minorities " they can get away with anything including murder, and can receive our hard earnt and paid tax money through hundreds of ways in form of " grants " " Donations " " Bhatta " " Religious pilgrimage " and what not. Our yatris to Amarnath are every year terrorised but just terrorise on of theirs who is leaving for a Yatra, and we have had it. Not that we want to, for we dont believe in harming anybody, but once in a while even they must know and feel what terror is. If they are innocent they must themselves pick out the rotten mangoes from their factions and hand over these to the authorities. But instead of doing this they even terrorise the common people by saying to each and all, that they are connected to " Bhai " . They strive on terrorising, intimidating and bullying one and all. This is what I would like to change in India. Let all know whom India belongs to. And who are the overstayed guests here. Who are allowed to raise their voices and who not. Who are allowed to use loudspeakers for their religious songs and who are not. Who are allowed to be citizens and who not. Who are allowed to vote and who not. Who are allowed to participate in the governance of the land and who not. Who are supposed to remain as 2nd class citizens and who not. What is the actual meaning of minority has to be taught to the so called " Minority sections " . Who are supposed to merge in the fold and culture of India and who are not supposed to merge with anyone but continue with their own practises. Unfortunately there are many black sheep amongst our own crowds, like they recently beat North Indians in Maharashtra and created factions between the Indians themselves. These people also have to be taught a lesson and regionalism has to be removed from India. Of course the main threat is from these who bomb the world everywhere and anytime whenever they wish to. These pre-historic Stone age men have to be removed from the face of Earth for prosperity. Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready to pounce > on the slightest pretext. > We cannot even speak in our own house? > > Regards > Neelam > > 2009/4/30 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > > > > > You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not > > physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job, > > unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from > > here. > > > > What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time on this. > > And we dont have a problem with the " sthan " for that is our own country > > and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those > > inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist > > plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brothers who > > too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pity and > > compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders. > > > > India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar > > religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No second opinion > > on this. Period. > > > > > > Moderator. > > > > <%40>, > > " marine_life01 " > > marine_life01@ wrote: > > > > > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistan is > > a terrorist nation ok > > > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,Truly said. We are only responsible for our rotten state of affairs. The Nehru-secularism has taken enough toll and now the nation should come out of it.I hope the little sparks burning in compassionate hearts are able to kindle a fire of unity and we become a force to reckon with. I have better hopes for ourselves in SUN's dasha. Hope to have a 'kingsize' ruler who also rules the hearts!!RegardsNeelam2009/4/30 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Neelam ji, That is the unfortunate state of affairs in our country. They can speak against us and our country with not a single hair on their head harmed, and when we speak , we are booked under so many sections. This misplaced " secularism " is taking its toll now. Under the umbrella of being " minorities " they can get away with anything including murder, and can receive our hard earnt and paid tax money through hundreds of ways in form of " grants " " Donations " " Bhatta " " Religious pilgrimage " and what not. Our yatris to Amarnath are every year terrorised but just terrorise on of theirs who is leaving for a Yatra, and we have had it. Not that we want to, for we dont believe in harming anybody, but once in a while even they must know and feel what terror is. If they are innocent they must themselves pick out the rotten mangoes from their factions and hand over these to the authorities. But instead of doing this they even terrorise the common people by saying to each and all, that they are connected to " Bhai " . They strive on terrorising, intimidating and bullying one and all. This is what I would like to change in India. Let all know whom India belongs to. And who are the overstayed guests here. Who are allowed to raise their voices and who not. Who are allowed to use loudspeakers for their religious songs and who are not. Who are allowed to be citizens and who not. Who are allowed to vote and who not. Who are allowed to participate in the governance of the land and who not. Who are supposed to remain as 2nd class citizens and who not. What is the actual meaning of minority has to be taught to the so called " Minority sections " . Who are supposed to merge in the fold and culture of India and who are not supposed to merge with anyone but continue with their own practises. Unfortunately there are many black sheep amongst our own crowds, like they recently beat North Indians in Maharashtra and created factions between the Indians themselves. These people also have to be taught a lesson and regionalism has to be removed from India. Of course the main threat is from these who bomb the world everywhere and anytime whenever they wish to. These pre-historic Stone age men have to be removed from the face of Earth for prosperity. Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready to pounce > on the slightest pretext. > We cannot even speak in our own house? > > Regards > Neelam > > 2009/4/30 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > > > > > You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not > > physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job, > > unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from > > here. > > > > What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time on this. > > And we dont have a problem with the " sthan " for that is our own country > > and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those > > inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist > > plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brothers who > > too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pity and > > compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders. > > > > India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar > > religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No second opinion > > on this. Period. > > > > > > Moderator. > > > > <%40>, > > " marine_life01 " > > marine_life01@ wrote: > > > > > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistan is > > a terrorist nation ok > > > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law..............the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam......Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha........... Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal................................... I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs.........................We all should get our acts together.................we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......................then we could have the best parliament...................... Vande Mataram Warm Regards Chandra neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thursday, 30 April, 2009 8:01:31 PMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Dear Bhaskar ji,Truly said. We are only responsible for our rotten state of affairs. The Nehru-secularism has taken enough toll and now the nation should come out of it.I hope the little sparks burning in compassionate hearts are able to kindle a fire of unity and we become a force to reckon with.I have better hopes for ourselves in SUN's dasha. Hope to have a 'kingsize' ruler who also rules the hearts!!RegardsNeelam 2009/4/30 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear Neelam ji,That is the unfortunate state of affairs in our country. They can speakagainst us and our country with not a single hair on their head harmed,and when we speak , we are booked under so many sections. This misplaced"secularism" is taking its toll now. Under the umbrella of being"minorities" they can get away with anything including murder, and canreceive our hard earnt and paid tax money through hundreds of ways inform of "grantsDonationsBhattaReligious pilgrimage" and whatnot. Our yatris to Amarnath are every year terrorised but just terroriseon of theirs who is leaving for a Yatra, and we have had it. Not that wewant to, for we dont believe in harming anybody, but once in a whileeven they must know and feel what terror is. If they are innocent theymust themselves pick out the rotten mangoes from their factions and handover these to the authorities. But instead of doing this they eventerrorise the common people by saying to each and all, that they areconnected to "Bhai". They strive on terrorising, intimidating andbullying one and all.This is what I would like to change in India. Let all know whom Indiabelongs to. And who are the overstayed guests here. Who are allowed toraise their voices and who not. Who are allowed to use loudspeakers fortheir religious songs and who are not. Who are allowed to be citizensand who not. Who are allowed to vote and who not. Who are allowed toparticipate in the governance of the land and who not. Who are supposedto remain as 2nd class citizens and who not. What is the actual meaningof minority has to be taught to the so called "Minority sections ". Whoare supposed to merge in the fold and culture of India and who are notsupposed to merge with anyone but continue with their own practises.Unfortunately there are many black sheep amongst our own crowds, likethey recently beat North Indians in Maharashtra and created factionsbetween the Indians themselves. These people also have to be taught alesson and regionalism has to be removed from India. Of course the mainthreat is from these who bomb the world everywhere and anytime wheneverthey wish to. These pre-historic Stone age men have to be removed fromthe face of Earth for prosperity.Bhaskar., neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>wrote: >> Dear Bhaskar ji,>> I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready topounce> on the slightest pretext.> We cannot even speak in our own house?>> Regards> Neelam>> 2009/4/30 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... >> >> >> >> > You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not> > physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job,> > unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from> > here.> >> > What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time onthis.> > And we dont have a problem with the "sthan" for that is our owncountry> > and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those> > inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist> > plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brotherswho> > too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pityand> > compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders.> >> > India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar> > religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No secondopinion> > on this. Period.> >> >> > Moderator.> >> > <%40. com>, > > "marine_life01"> > marine_life01@ wrote:> > >> > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistanis> > a terrorist nation ok> > > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye> > >> >> >> >> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Indeed! I concur with your views Chandrasekhar-ji. It's really a pity that our nation does not have a uniform civil code. That's blatant discrimination. The beauty and problem with the democracy is that you get the government that you deserve. Unless we as a society raise the collective intelligence of the masses, we will continue to see only the problem-side of the democracy. One sure way to change this is to have all citizens (especially the educated young generation) mandatorily participate in the democratic process and MUST exercise their vote to select their representatives. Heck, we could even make it a law that every citizen must vote. If one enjoys the rights of citizenship, then it's one's obligation to contribute to the betterment of the democracy! It's only fair. In addition, we should institute the draft. Let every able citizen serve in the defense of the nation for a period of two years. That will instill a real (not 'dikhawa') sense of patriotism. So, when these folks enter politics, they will - hopefully - make the right decisions. Members, my apologies for posting a political opinion in the Jyotish group but I love my motherland so much that I had to get it out of my system. -Nitin --- On Thu, 4/30/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal wrote: chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal Re: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Thursday, April 30, 2009, 8:40 PM Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law......... ......the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam..... .Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha. ......... . Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal...... ......... ......... ......... .. I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs..... ......... ......... ..We all should get our acts together.... ......... ....we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......... ......... .....then we could have the best parliament.. ......... ......... .. Vande Mataram Warm Regards Chandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Nitinji and other friends,Can we start a Journey with a first small step - Compile A Wish List - what is required for us to be a better Citizen and a better Nation. Its for sure not a political forum; however; what we are contemplating here is for betterment of the Society as a whole. If Bhaskar Sir allows us than we should go ahead and compile a wish list and edit it after some time and forward it to the leaders of the country and see how they act or react to our genuine concerns and demands.Bhaskar Sir,Would be grateful if you could give your views on it. As well whether we should go ahead with the topic or end it here!Warm RegardsChandraNitin Patil <enpy91 Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 11:20:09 AMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Indeed! I concur with your views Chandrasekhar- ji. It's really a pity that our nation does not have a uniform civil code. That's blatant discrimination. The beauty and problem with the democracy is that you get the government that you deserve. Unless we as a society raise the collective intelligence of the masses, we will continue to see only the problem-side of the democracy. One sure way to change this is to have all citizens (especially the educated young generation) mandatorily participate in the democratic process and MUST exercise their vote to select their representatives. Heck, we could even make it a law that every citizen must vote. If one enjoys the rights of citizenship, then it's one's obligation to contribute to the betterment of the democracy! It's only fair. In addition, we should institute the draft. Let every able citizen serve in the defense of the nation for a period of two years. That will instill a real (not 'dikhawa') sense of patriotism. So, when these folks enter politics, they will - hopefully - make the right decisions. Members, my apologies for posting a political opinion in the Jyotish group but I love my motherland so much that I had to get it out of my system. -Nitin --- On Thu, 4/30/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in> wrote: chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in> Re: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Thursday, April 30, 2009, 8:40 PM Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law......... ......the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam..... .Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha. ......... . Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal...... ......... ......... .......... .. I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs..... ......... ......... ..We all should get our acts together.... .......... ....we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......... ......... ....then we could have the best parliament.. ......... ......... .. Vande Mataram Warm Regards Chandra Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Chandrasekharji, I am always in support of such causes. You may please go ahead. regards/Bhaskar. , chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal wrote: > > Dear Nitinji and other friends, > > Can we start a Journey with a first small step - Compile A Wish List - what is required for us to be a better Citizen and a better Nation. > Its for sure not a political forum; however; what we are contemplating here is for betterment of the Society as a whole. If Bhaskar Sir allows us than we should go ahead and compile a wish list and edit it after some time and forward it to the leaders of the country and see how they act or react to our genuine concerns and demands. > > Bhaskar Sir, > Would be grateful if you could give your views on it. As well whether we should go ahead with the topic or end it here! > > Warm Regards > Chandra > > > > > ________________________________ > Nitin Patil enpy91 > > Friday, 1 May, 2009 11:20:09 AM > Re: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Indeed! I concur with your views Chandrasekhar- ji. > > It's really a pity that our nation does not have a uniform civil code. That's blatant discrimination. > > The beauty and problem with the democracy is that you get the government that you deserve. Unless we as a society raise the collective intelligence of the masses, we will continue to see only the problem-side of the democracy. One sure way to change this is to have all citizens (especially the educated young generation) mandatorily participate in the democratic process and MUST exercise their vote to select their representatives. Heck, we could even make it a law that every citizen must vote. If one enjoys the rights of citizenship, then it's one's obligation to contribute to the betterment of the democracy! It's only fair. > > In addition, we should institute the draft. Let every able citizen serve in the defense of the nation for a period of two years. That will instill a real (not 'dikhawa') sense of patriotism. So, when these folks enter politics, they will - hopefully - make the right decisions. > > Members, my apologies for posting a political opinion in the Jyotish group but I love my motherland so much that I had to get it out of my system. > > -Nitin > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in> wrote: > > chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in> > Re: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 8:40 PM > > Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, > > I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. > > Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law......... .....the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam..... .Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha. ......... . > Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal...... ......... ......... ......... .. > > I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs..... ......... ......... ...We all should get our acts together.... ......... ....we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......... ......... ....then we could have the best parliament.. .......... ......... .. > > Vande Mataram > > Warm Regards > Chandra > > > > > > Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads./in/firefox/?fr=om_email_firefox > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 but most of the time BEST candidates just do not get the tickets........how can we elect them?most of the times only scoundrels get the tickets and the poor janataa has to select from them.......--- On Thu, 4/30/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal wrote: chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahalRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:40 PM Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law......... .....the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam..... .Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha. ......... . Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal...... ......... ......... ......... .. I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs..... ......... ......... ..We all should get our acts together.... ......... ....we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......... ......... ....then we could have the best parliament.. ......... ......... .. Vande Mataram Warm Regards Chandra neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Thursday, 30 April, 2009 8:01:31 PMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Dear Bhaskar ji,Truly said. We are only responsible for our rotten state of affairs. The Nehru-secularism has taken enough toll and now the nation should come out of it.I hope the little sparks burning in compassionate hearts are able to kindle a fire of unity and we become a force to reckon with.I have better hopes for ourselves in SUN's dasha. Hope to have a 'kingsize' ruler who also rules the hearts!!RegardsNeelam 2009/4/30 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear Neelam ji,That is the unfortunate state of affairs in our country. They can speakagainst us and our country with not a single hair on their head harmed,and when we speak , we are booked under so many sections. This misplaced"secularism" is taking its toll now. Under the umbrella of being"minorities" they can get away with anything including murder, and canreceive our hard earnt and paid tax money through hundreds of ways inform of "grantsDonationsBhattaReligious pilgrimage" and whatnot. Our yatris to Amarnath are every year terrorised but just terroriseon of theirs who is leaving for a Yatra, and we have had it. Not that wewant to, for we dont believe in harming anybody, but once in a whileeven they must know and feel what terror is. If they are innocent theymust themselves pick out the rotten mangoes from their factions and handover these to the authorities. But instead of doing this they eventerrorise the common people by saying to each and all, that they areconnected to "Bhai". They strive on terrorising, intimidating andbullying one and all.This is what I would like to change in India. Let all know whom Indiabelongs to. And who are the overstayed guests here. Who are allowed toraise their voices and who not. Who are allowed to use loudspeakers fortheir religious songs and who are not. Who are allowed to be citizensand who not. Who are allowed to vote and who not. Who are allowed toparticipate in the governance of the land and who not. Who are supposedto remain as 2nd class citizens and who not. What is the actual meaningof minority has to be taught to the so called "Minority sections ". Whoare supposed to merge in the fold and culture of India and who are notsupposed to merge with anyone but continue with their own practises.Unfortunately there are many black sheep amongst our own crowds, likethey recently beat North Indians in Maharashtra and created factionsbetween the Indians themselves. These people also have to be taught alesson and regionalism has to be removed from India. Of course the mainthreat is from these who bomb the world everywhere and anytime wheneverthey wish to. These pre-historic Stone age men have to be removed fromthe face of Earth for prosperity.Bhaskar., neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>wrote: >> Dear Bhaskar ji,>> I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready topounce> on the slightest pretext.> We cannot even speak in our own house?>> Regards> Neelam>> 2009/4/30 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... >> >> >> >> > You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not> > physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job,> > unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from> > here.> >> > What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time onthis.> > And we dont have a problem with the "sthan" for that is our owncountry> > and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those> > inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist> > plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brotherswho> > too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pityand> > compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders.> >> > India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar> > religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No secondopinion> > on this. Period.> >> >> > Moderator.> >> > <%40. com>, > > "marine_life01"> > marine_life01@ wrote:> > >> > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistanis> > a terrorist nation ok> > > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye> > >> >> >> >> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Kiranji,We have to chose the best choice available with us. There are a few atleast who serve the society as well. We need to grow this number. For the purposes the educated and better human beings need to jump in the fray of elections and politics. Our job is to identify the correct persons. Warm RegardsChandrakiran dasaur <kirandasaurTo: Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 5:08:18 PMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! but most of the time BEST candidates just do not get the tickets..... ...how can we elect them?most of the times only scoundrels get the tickets and the poor janataa has to select from them........--- On Thu, 4/30/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in> wrote: chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in>Re: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !!Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:40 PM Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law......... .....the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam..... .Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha. ......... . Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal...... .......... ......... ......... .. I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs..... ......... ......... ..We all should get our acts together.... ......... ....we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......... ......... ....then we could have the best parliament.. ......... ......... .. Vande Mataram Warm Regards Chandra neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Thursday, 30 April, 2009 8:01:31 PMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Dear Bhaskar ji,Truly said. We are only responsible for our rotten state of affairs. The Nehru-secularism has taken enough toll and now the nation should come out of it.I hope the little sparks burning in compassionate hearts are able to kindle a fire of unity and we become a force to reckon with.I have better hopes for ourselves in SUN's dasha. Hope to have a 'kingsize' ruler who also rules the hearts!!RegardsNeelam 2009/4/30 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear Neelam ji,That is the unfortunate state of affairs in our country. They can speakagainst us and our country with not a single hair on their head harmed,and when we speak , we are booked under so many sections. This misplaced"secularism" is taking its toll now. Under the umbrella of being"minorities" they can get away with anything including murder, and canreceive our hard earnt and paid tax money through hundreds of ways inform of "grantsDonationsBhattaReligious pilgrimage" and whatnot.. Our yatris to Amarnath are every year terrorised but just terroriseon of theirs who is leaving for a Yatra, and we have had it. Not that wewant to, for we dont believe in harming anybody, but once in a whileeven they must know and feel what terror is. If they are innocent theymust themselves pick out the rotten mangoes from their factions and handover these to the authorities. But instead of doing this they eventerrorise the common people by saying to each and all, that they areconnected to "Bhai". They strive on terrorising, intimidating andbullying one and all.This is what I would like to change in India. Let all know whom Indiabelongs to. And who are the overstayed guests here. Who are allowed toraise their voices and who not. Who are allowed to use loudspeakers fortheir religious songs and who are not. Who are allowed to be citizensand who not. Who are allowed to vote and who not. Who are allowed toparticipate in the governance of the land and who not. Who are supposedto remain as 2nd class citizens and who not. What is the actual meaningof minority has to be taught to the so called "Minority sections ". Whoare supposed to merge in the fold and culture of India and who are notsupposed to merge with anyone but continue with their own practises.Unfortunately there are many black sheep amongst our own crowds, likethey recently beat North Indians in Maharashtra and created factionsbetween the Indians themselves. These people also have to be taught alesson and regionalism has to be removed from India. Of course the mainthreat is from these who bomb the world everywhere and anytime wheneverthey wish to. These pre-historic Stone age men have to be removed fromthe face of Earth for prosperity.Bhaskar., neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>wrote: >> Dear Bhaskar ji,>> I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready topounce> on the slightest pretext.> We cannot even speak in our own house?>> Regards> Neelam>> 2009/4/30 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... >> >> >> >> > You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not> > physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job,> > unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from> > here.> >> > What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time onthis.> > And we dont have a problem with the "sthan" for that is our owncountry> > and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those> > inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist> > plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brotherswho> > too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pityand> > compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders.> >> > India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar> > religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No secondopinion> > on this. Period.> >> >> > Moderator.> >> > <%40. com>, > > "marine_life01"> > marine_life01@ wrote:> > >> > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistanis> > a terrorist nation ok> > > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye> > >> >> >> >> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 now this is absolutely right.........we HAVE to grow the numbers of THE BEST...we HAVE to inspire the educated young and old to participate whole heartedly ..have to teach the masses.,the importance of it......we have to make the people AWARE........--- On Fri, 5/1/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal wrote: chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahalRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 12:07 PM Dear Kiranji,We have to chose the best choice available with us. There are a few atleast who serve the society as well. We need to grow this number. For the purposes the educated and better human beings need to jump in the fray of elections and politics. Our job is to identify the correct persons. Warm RegardsChandra kiran dasaur <kirandasaur@ >Friday, 1 May, 2009 5:08:18 PMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! but most of the time BEST candidates just do not get the tickets..... ...how can we elect them?most of the times only scoundrels get the tickets and the poor janataa has to select from them........--- On Thu, 4/30/09, chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in> wrote: chandrasekhar sahal <chandrasekharsahal@ .co. in>Re: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !!Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:40 PM Dear Bhaskar Sir and Neelamji, I agree for whatever has been said about so called secularism. Actually, it is not. No secularisim is there at all. Why special provisions shall apply to the land of Jammu and Kashmir???? Is it not part of our nation.....then why this special provisions. Memebers may agree or disagree, however, I believe in one civil code for the people residing in the country. No one should be greater than law......... .....the hatred which our so called leaders creat shall be voted out. We wish to have a civil society which is civil in its truest sesnse. Some time i wish i should be at the helm of affairs as well and remove the discrimations metted out at various levels and various people. Most of the time our leaders are fighting their own individual battles and time is UTILISED in marinalising the others....Mayawati Vs. Mulayam..... .Karunanidhi Vs.. Jayalalitha. ......... . Mamta Banerjee working against the interest of the majority of people of West Bengal...... .......... ......... ......... .. I really am aghast at sorry state of affairs..... ......... ......... ..We all should get our acts together.... ......... ....we should vote for the best candidate irrespective of the party he/she belongs to.......... ......... ....then we could have the best parliament.. ......... ......... .. Vande Mataram Warm Regards Chandra neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Thursday, 30 April, 2009 8:01:31 PMRe: Re: wah ! tujhe salaam !! Dear Bhaskar ji,Truly said. We are only responsible for our rotten state of affairs. The Nehru-secularism has taken enough toll and now the nation should come out of it.I hope the little sparks burning in compassionate hearts are able to kindle a fire of unity and we become a force to reckon with.I have better hopes for ourselves in SUN's dasha. Hope to have a 'kingsize' ruler who also rules the hearts!!RegardsNeelam 2009/4/30 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> Dear Neelam ji,That is the unfortunate state of affairs in our country. They can speakagainst us and our country with not a single hair on their head harmed,and when we speak , we are booked under so many sections. This misplaced"secularism" is taking its toll now. Under the umbrella of being"minorities" they can get away with anything including murder, and canreceive our hard earnt and paid tax money through hundreds of ways inform of "grantsDonationsBhattaReligious pilgrimage" and whatnot.. Our yatris to Amarnath are every year terrorised but just terroriseon of theirs who is leaving for a Yatra, and we have had it. Not that wewant to, for we dont believe in harming anybody, but once in a whileeven they must know and feel what terror is. If they are innocent theymust themselves pick out the rotten mangoes from their factions and handover these to the authorities. But instead of doing this they eventerrorise the common people by saying to each and all, that they areconnected to "Bhai". They strive on terrorising, intimidating andbullying one and all.This is what I would like to change in India. Let all know whom Indiabelongs to. And who are the overstayed guests here. Who are allowed toraise their voices and who not. Who are allowed to use loudspeakers fortheir religious songs and who are not. Who are allowed to be citizensand who not. Who are allowed to vote and who not. Who are allowed toparticipate in the governance of the land and who not. Who are supposedto remain as 2nd class citizens and who not. What is the actual meaningof minority has to be taught to the so called "Minority sections ". Whoare supposed to merge in the fold and culture of India and who are notsupposed to merge with anyone but continue with their own practises.Unfortunately there are many black sheep amongst our own crowds, likethey recently beat North Indians in Maharashtra and created factionsbetween the Indians themselves. These people also have to be taught alesson and regionalism has to be removed from India. Of course the mainthreat is from these who bomb the world everywhere and anytime wheneverthey wish to. These pre-historic Stone age men have to be removed fromthe face of Earth for prosperity.Bhaskar., neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>wrote: >> Dear Bhaskar ji,>> I was wondering how people are able to sit as Watchdogs and ready topounce> on the slightest pretext.> We cannot even speak in our own house?>> Regards> Neelam>> 2009/4/30 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... >> >> >> >> > You are using US IP address, and whether you are really there or not> > physically, does not take much time to find out, but its not my job,> > unless you turn nasty. But I am helping you now by removing you from> > here.> >> > What is Pakistan, everybody knows, we dont want to waste time onthis.> > And we dont have a problem with the "sthan" for that is our owncountry> > and land, but we have a problem with their inhabitants - Those> > inhabitants (Not all) who use our donated land for making terrorist> > plans and terrorising our country hand in glove with their brotherswho> > too have been given a roof over their heads in India due to our pityand> > compassion AND probable weakness of our Leaders.> >> > India is the most secular country, Hinduism is the most secuilar> > religion and Indians are the best Hosts in the world. No secondopinion> > on this. Period.> >> >> > Moderator.> >> > <%40. com>, > > "marine_life01"> > marine_life01@ wrote:> > >> > > listen mr nor im using usa ip address nor im from usa nor pakistanis> > a terrorist nation ok> > > i dont even want to join this group but unable to delete it. bye> > >> >> >> >> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition * Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Dear All: Literally, 'Secular' means absence of religion. Bhaskar Dutta Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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