How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts

May 15, 2009

Vinay Jhaji,

Your efforts are very commendable. Why don t you share your birth details with

us so that we ll be able to see what planetary positions enable such a feat.

Vijayalakshmi S

--- On Fri, 15/5/09, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16

[vedic astrology] How To Test Softwares : Mundane Charts

vedic astrology

Friday, 15 May, 2009, 11:23 AM

To All :

Some members have demanded case studies. I am ready to present case

studies on internet provided they are read seriously and my time is not

wasted. But I need to clarify some points in this regard.

I used to send annual rain forecasts to 615 weather scientists each

year, but this year I have not been able to do so although mesha

samkraanti elapsed one month ago. Case studies and biographical analyses

are secondary in my list of priorities than to a full English version of

Kundalee software. I made this software in Hindi, and translation into

Englisg was started recently. So far , only divisionals and varshaphala

have been translated. What is the use of case studies if the software is

incomplete in English ? Six months ago, I put 5 individual and some

mundane case studies in English my website in addition to nearly 70

mundane case studies in Hindi attached file, but nobody was interested

in mundane studies and individual case studies were neglected because I

followed the BPHS + Jaimini rules of death prediction which does not

work with physical astronomy. Many members want case studies which

could support their right or wrong belief in physical astronomy. When

they see Suryasiddhanta is working well with phalita rules of Rishis,

they either drop discussion or revert to tactics saying BPHS is not the

only method ! It is not honesty. BPHS is the only complete textbook of

phalita jyotisha propounded by a Rishi. When I saw some people wanted

case studies I presented such studies, 7 of them, but then they dropped

discussion without pointing at my errors or merits. I became convinced

they were not serious, hence I stopped making more case studies. I left

contributing to mysticboard, for which these case studies were

originally prepared and were later put at my website.

In the meantime, due to a lapse of my technician, some wrong version of

DLL files were attached to my software which created installion

problems to nearly 15-20 persons. I had to completely reinstall my

Windows OS as well as software making platform Visual Studio and had to

recompile Kundalee afresh. I have rectified these version differences,

and the current version of Kundalee is fit for all versions of XP and

Win98.

These problems were augmented by my mundane other problems and

assignments. I will present case studies when I get leisure, because I

am sure 7 case studies rotting at my website are not being studied by

those who want more case studies. The proposal of 10 case studies was

originally from Mr Pankaj Dhar whose language was a proof of his lack of

interest in my work : he said it is " my duty " to prove my point and

therefore I should present 10 case studies comparing results of my

software with those of other. Why should I try to prove other software

makers wrong ? Will it not make all of them hostile to me? I said I will

increase the number of case studies but I will not compare my results

with those from other softwares : after this Mr pankaj Dhar lost

interest in my work. At present you are the only person who is demanding

case studies. Why 7 case studies presently at my website since Dec 2008

cannot be regarded as " case studies " is not clear to me. I will need

only one day to add extra 3 case studies to complete 10 case studies

demanded by two members in JR (none of whom has installed Kundalee). But

I will never abuse other software makers, and unless I abuse them, my

case studies will not be read at all !! Why you do not see this point ?

Some people do not want case studies, they want me to stop my creative

works and fight with all software makers of the world by proving them

wrong !

I sent individual case studies to many persons. None of them is ready to

discuss the good or bad points in my case studies, just because

planetary positions of Kundalee differ from physical astronomy. They are

under an oath never to discuss a chart with me ASTROLOGICALLY.

Only real software developers like PVR and Shyam Kansal ji are

sympathetic and unbiased : they know the shortcomings of modern

softwares and are doing their best to find ways to remove these

shortcomings. Shyam Kansal ji is the pioneer in software on

Ashtakavargas, and when he found the team of Sreenadh falsely charging

me of making an " uninstallable " software based on an " outdated "

siddhaanta, he stepped in to report that he faced no difficulty in

installing Kundalee and found that no other software dealt with

Ashtakavargas more exhaustively than Kundalee. But such verdicts by a

pioneer vedic software developer made no impact on AIA managers.

Over half of my time is wasted on useless theoretical discussions or

diversions. I wanted comparative discussion of charts, but I found no

one is interested in it. Only I am expected to make case studies and

comparative studies and only I will read my case studies. Why 7 case

studies rotting at my website for over 6 months cannot be regarded as

case studies ? I

I started biographical study of Napoleon, but stopped the work when one

senior member in JR said that birthtime of celebrities are doubtful.

Why they want to waste my time with biographical studies when they will

not read those studies ? I know birthdata of most of Indian celebrities

are deliberate falsehoods, but same is not the casewith well researched

foerign celebrities.

Hence, the best method for comparing various schools is mundane case

studies : I have over two hundred case studies in this field, which has

no uncertainties like birthtime errors, because time of chart is

determined by solar transits into raashis or nakshatras. Moreover, I can

present comparative case studies in this field too, because there will

be no need to compare astrological softwares made by others. 136 years

of official annual rainfall data is availabe on a monthly basis. Change

the year beginning with January to year beginning with April, and

compare annual rainfall data with Mesha Samkraanti charts of India.

Analysis of only one raashi is enough in this case, becase we need to

analyse only that raashi in which India falls in the Prithvi Chakra.

Repeat same exercize for 55 years of economic growth data presented in

Economic Survey of central finance ministers : these data are already

presented in year beginning from April and can be easily compared with

Varsha-pravesh charts of India on nirayana mesha Samkraanti. Analysis of

only 11th house is needed in this case.

Internet astrologers are not interested in mundane astrology, hence I am

not translating my Hindi case studies into English. But whether internet

people read my case studies or not, I will certainly put them on my

websites gradually.

I translated one year's forecasts made by a HOD on world and by me on

India and put it at following webpage : Click_Here

<http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+ %3A+Apr+2009- Mar+201\

0> . I will have to translate my whole mundane software into English

for making English case studies. Before I joined forums, I did not

know Indian astrologers do not know rudimentary Hindi. If south Indian

astrologers can recognize Hindi alphabets (no mastery of language is

needed), I will not need to translate my whole mundane softwares, and

can present mundane case studies with commentaries in english.

But then someone will come and say Parashari phalit is not universal and

should not be used ! After all, there must be some consensus on the

methods of case studies. So far, my experience is that only those people

want case studies from me who do not want to touch my software for one

reason or another.

I have devoted my life in making scores of softwares and other research

projects along modern physical astronomy initially but along

Suryasiddhanta later when I found modern physical astronomy giving

unsatisfactory results. Those who have not worked along both lines and

merely stick to modern physical astronomy have a prejudiced feeling that

I have some personal agenda of imposing Suryasiddhanta. My background is

not astrological but scientific, and I became a supporter of

Suryasiddanta after decades of comparative researches. I have no benefit

in propagating this method, because I never sold either my softwares not

took any fees for my astrological services. Yet, some people have

expressed their unfounded views that I have a future plan to get

commercial benefits by making " hoax claims " . These same people refuse to

study 7 case studies at my website and say it is " my " duty to prove my

point. It is impossible to prove or disprove anything to those who

refuse to read the proofs.

-VinayJha

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May 15, 2009

///////only real software developers like PVR and Shyam Kansal ji are

> sympathetic and unbiased : they know the shortcomings of modern

> softwares and are doing their best to find ways to remove these

> shortcomings. Shyam Kansal ji is the pioneer in software on

> Ashtakavargas, and when he found the team of Sreenadh falsely charging

> me of making an " uninstallable " software based on an " outdated "

> siddhaanta, he stepped in to report that he faced no difficulty in

> installing Kundalee and found that no other software dealt with

> Ashtakavargas more exhaustively than Kundalee. But such verdicts by a

> pioneer vedic software developer made no impact on AIA

managers.////////

Re: Kundalee software

Dear Group members

This is my input to on-going discussions on Kundalee software.

I have Windows-XP (service pack-3), Home Edition, on my notebook

computer. I could install the software without any problem. It is

running OK on my notebook. Most of the options are working perfectly.

However, when I try to calculate Vimshottari dasa or Ashottari dasa or

Ashtakvarga, it always returns " Run time error 13, Type Mismatch " error.

I have not yet checked/compared any calculations of this software with

other normally used popular softwares, therefore I am unable to comment

about calculations aspect at the moment.

Sarvatobhadra-chakra section is quite exhaustive. I heartily compliment

Mr. Vinay Jha for providing this section to those interested. Most of

the present day softwares have not been able to provide

Sarvatobhadra-chakra vedhas so exhaustively.

I would request Mr. Vinay Jha to guide me that how I may solve this

problem of " Run time error 13, Type Mismatch " .

Warm regards,

Shyam S. Kansal

/message/17716

IS IT IS PROOF OF INFALIBILITY ?????? WAT A SOFTWARE GOT INSTALLED HAS

TO DO WITH PROOF OF SAURA PAKSHA IS CORRECT ??

>

, " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16

wrote:

>

> To All :

>

> Some members have demanded case studies. I am ready to present case

> studies on internet provided they are read seriously and my time is

not

> wasted. But I need to clarify some points in this regard.

>

> I used to send annual rain forecasts to 615 weather scientists each

> year, but this year I have not been able to do so although mesha

> samkraanti elapsed one month ago. Case studies and biographical

analyses

> are secondary in my list of priorities than to a full English version

of

> Kundalee software. I made this software in Hindi, and translation into

> Englisg was started recently. So far , only divisionals and

varshaphala

> have been translated. What is the use of case studies if the software

is

> incomplete in English ? Six months ago, I put 5 individual and some

> mundane case studies in English my website in addition to nearly 70

> mundane case studies in Hindi attached file, but nobody was

interested

> in mundane studies and individual case studies were neglected because

I

> followed the BPHS + Jaimini rules of death prediction which does not

> work with physical astronomy. Many members want case studies

which

> could support their right or wrong belief in physical astronomy. When

> they see Suryasiddhanta is working well with phalita rules of Rishis,

> they either drop discussion or revert to tactics saying BPHS is not

the

> only method ! It is not honesty. BPHS is the only complete textbook of

> phalita jyotisha propounded by a Rishi. When I saw some people wanted

> case studies I presented such studies, 7 of them, but then they

dropped

> discussion without pointing at my errors or merits. I became convinced

> they were not serious, hence I stopped making more case studies. I

left

> contributing to mysticboard, for which these case studies were

> originally prepared and were later put at my website.

>

> In the meantime, due to a lapse of my technician, some wrong version

of

> DLL files were attached to my software which created installion

> problems to nearly 15-20 persons. I had to completely reinstall my

> Windows OS as well as software making platform Visual Studio and had

to

> recompile Kundalee afresh. I have rectified these version differences,

> and the current version of Kundalee is fit for all versions of XP and

> Win98.

>

> These problems were augmented by my mundane other problems and

> assignments. I will present case studies when I get leisure, because I

> am sure 7 case studies rotting at my website are not being studied by

> those who want more case studies. The proposal of 10 case studies was

> originally from Mr Pankaj Dhar whose language was a proof of his lack

of

> interest in my work : he said it is " my duty " to prove my point and

> therefore I should present 10 case studies comparing results of my

> software with those of other. Why should I try to prove other software

> makers wrong ? Will it not make all of them hostile to me? I said I

will

> increase the number of case studies but I will not compare my results

> with those from other softwares : after this Mr pankaj Dhar lost

> interest in my work. At present you are the only person who is

demanding

> case studies. Why 7 case studies presently at my website since Dec

2008

> cannot be regarded as " case studies " is not clear to me. I will need

> only one day to add extra 3 case studies to complete 10 case studies

> demanded by two members in JR (none of whom has installed Kundalee).

But

> I will never abuse other software makers, and unless I abuse them, my

> case studies will not be read at all !! Why you do not see this point

?

> Some people do not want case studies, they want me to stop my creative

> works and fight with all software makers of the world by proving them

> wrong !

>

> I sent individual case studies to many persons. None of them is ready

to

> discuss the good or bad points in my case studies, just because

> planetary positions of Kundalee differ from physical astronomy. They

are

> under an oath never to discuss a chart with me ASTROLOGICALLY.

>

> Only real software developers like PVR and Shyam Kansal ji are